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    Battlefield 1 Open Beta

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by HTWingNut, Sep 1, 2016.

  1. HTWingNut

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    Battlefield 1 is now Open Beta for a limited time.


    My take on it so far:

    I see not much has changed in the core mechanics. Snipers can still hit from a mile away even while on horse, hit detection is still for crap, and grenades don't blow up after you've died. I have really enjoyed the Battlefield series but after Hardline and Star Wars Battlefront, I'm just tired of them rehashing the same thing over and over and over again without fixing the things that really have been overlooked all this time.
     
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    I personally think they improved sniping a bit. There always used to be this huge lag after you hit the target that seems to be significantly reduced. And I don't mean the obvious bullet travel time, like the time between the hit marker and knowing if you got the kill or just a hit is much faster now. Hit detection has been mostly fine for me, a few weird spots that seem to be like one way walls though. I really like that every shot is a tracer also.
     
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    Line of sight still borked too. When someone shouldn't have the line when you're prone on the other side of a hill and they're below you on other side they can still frequently hit you, at least from your perspective they shouldn't even see you.

    This is where I would love a kill cam from their perspective implemented.
     
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    ive got this pre-ordered, so downloading this open beta will help me decide if it keep the pre-order or not, i don't care if its not perfect, i just want it to be fun, so tired of futuristic fps games with jet-packs and all sorts of needless stuff, keep it simple and make it good wins every day for me.
     
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    If someone wants to play a solid WWI MP shooter, there's always Verdun.
    Might be hard getting in right now tho, because player base is kind of small, and most them are seasoned players, so for rookies it might be hard to get in. And no vehicles.
    But otherwise it's a good shooter.
     
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    I played it. I honestly am generally disappointed with it. Hitreg is... eh. CPU usage is high and apparently affected by texture filtering and mesh quality for some reason. Balancing is way off the charts. Tanks are obscenely overpowered and readily available most of the match. Flying the planes feels very wonky, unlike BF4's jets. Engineers shred the rest of the classes in general. Shooting people on horses has me often hit the horse, and headshots to a horse don't apparently kill it nearly fast enough, and if I kill a person on the horse and the still-moving horse touches me in any way before coming to a stop, I get slain. And the armoured trains... I'll leave it at that.

    Also I once spawned in a server with absolutely no equipment and had to buy stuff, except that I didn't have enough to fill out everything.

    Also, it seems to run like BF4 with MSAA enabled does, except it doesn't have MSAA, and it doesn't look nearly that much better. So of course I disliked that.

    Eh I'm a crotchety old jaded gamer by now. I've been spoiled by Overwatch. OW is the gold standard for all PC FPS titles now. Constant balance changes, free public test realm, in-game metrics, separation of "ping" and "RTT" (RTT is the ping that games like CoD return, which is good), nearly linear CPU usage increase as FPS goes up, 60Hz tickrate servers before the game even launched in custom games and 2 and a half months after launch they began rolling out 60Hz tickrate servers to eventually get the game into a default 60Hz update rate state. It's like, every FPS from EA in the last four years, every CoD game MW3 and up, Density (since Destiny never actually launched) and every multiplayer game Ubisoft has ever made? They're all a joke compared to how Overwatch is treating itself as a game. I now harshly rate other titles the same way. Hence my being a crotchety old jaded gamer.
     
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    Is Overwatch really that good? I heard some pretty bad things about it too. That it gets boring pretty quickly. I never cared much for Team Fortress or such games which I believe this is similar to.
     
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    It has waifus. I think you might like it.
     
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    Well, do understand I am rating Overwatch and labeling it as the "Gold Standard" in terms of "is it a functionally good game with good dev support". To which, the answer is absolutely.

    The question you're considering is probably "is it fun, and will I enjoy it more than a couple of hours?" to which I cannot answer.

    I personally think it's extremely fun, and while I don't no-life it I do play it generally multiple times a week for at least a couple of matches, and I thoroughly enjoy most of my time with it. I did not feel nearly as much love to TF2 as I do towards Overwatch, and while I consider the games to have express similarities, I cannot really consider TF2 and Overwatch to be the same kind of game. The pacing of Overwatch is much faster and it's a hard game to compare to anything on the current market. I think of it as if TF2 and LoL had a baby and injected a little call of duty DNA for the fast pacing. It's very team oriented and you can't lead a team to victory, but one single good player can do a lot (and even make it easier on the other team members). Here, check out a video I did for the purpose of checking temperatures to compare against a Razer Blade which actually ended up as being pretty decent gameplay on my part to see if you get what I mean about the pacing, assuming you've never really looked at someone playing a match or two before.

    To be honest the only other game I've played that had any sort of actual similarity to OW was Lawbreakers, but that game is FAR inferior on a design level (and performance/options level too). It leaves me wondering if we'll see more games attempt a similar deal in the near future.

    The only downside I've seen really, is that sometimes players can be quite toxic. It's to be expected though, because it sold so much and is a "blizzard title", which means a lot more people than usual are grabbing it. There's a lot of casual players who don't know and don't bother to learn the game well too. But you can't really do much about that. There is a competitive season where 10 games win or lose gives you a placement and a skill rating, so above certain skill ratings noobs will be less common, but most of what I've done has been quick play.
     
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    It's different enough to TF2 that you may like it even if you didn't like TF2, but I love both OW and TF2.
     
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    I liked it, except for a few things like overpowered tanks and horses.
     
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    Horses weren't OP come on.. Tanks, yes they were OP..

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    The beta convinced me to buy the game! I'm just not sure which edition to buy, standard, deluxe or premium?
     
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    yeap after playing the beta im happy with my pre-purchase, i wont be cancelling it, gameplay was fun, really fun, would like to see a few balance changes but other than that, looking forward to Oct 18th.....

    i ordered the Early Enlister Deluxe Edition, seemed reasonable to me.
     
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    I guess it depends on your class, most of the times I was using the scout and found it unrealistically very hard to fight against a horse riding enemy.
     
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    Get the standard and then premium later... I got my standard edition from cdkeys.com for £31.99 which is steal compared to elsewhere..
     
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    130$ is quite a bit steep haha

    Does anyone know how many maps come in the base game? I can't think of a BF game in recent memory that's shipped with the really good stuff at launch.
     
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    Is this game just horribly optimized or are drivers complete sh** (or both)? And yes, I know it's in Beta... But the GTX 1080 barely reaches 60 FPS on maximum settings at 1080p. Battlefield 4 reaches nearly 200 FPS at times.

    That said, it honestly doesn't appeal to me. I probably won't buy it.
     
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    Galm "Stand By, We're Analyzing The Situation!"

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    What did you have resolution scale set to?

    My 980 Ti wasn't struggling at all. Other online sources show the 1080 getting 100+ fps on ultra at 1440p. Resolution scale was super weird, 42% is your native resolution, anything higher would have made it really hard to run. At 1080p the RX 480 can max it.
     
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    Wasn't me. Just watching some videos of it. Must have been due to the resolution scale...



    Yep, he has it set to 100%. 42% is the default for 1080p. :D
     
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    Galm "Stand By, We're Analyzing The Situation!"

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    LOL. 100% resolution scale is rendering at 4K.

    It was the stupidest UI I've ever seen for that kind of setting.
     
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    Yeah, LOL. :) Makes sense now. I was confused there for a bit.

    Apparently it's bugged, too. 42% = 1080p.
     
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    Its not really a bug, I think its what they meant in some twisted way. When I first launched 42 was the default, but I changed it to 50%. That was some weird slightly under 5K resolution until I dropped it back. 100% would have been 8K and slow as heck.
     
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    That's odd. But yeah, 42% is definitely native resolution.

    They should have a scale that shows the actual pixel number (in small text). Some people obviously believe "100%" means native. :D

    Good catch, btw. Thanks.
     
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    Did 90fps++ on Asus Strix 1080 here at 1440p and 50% scaling... Must be bugged drivers or something!
     
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    BF1 seems to have a memory leak. Most game-play videos show beginning RAM usage around 5GB and ending at nearly 10GB (depending on how long you play). Maybe I'm just crazy. :D Can anyone confirm?
     
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    I believe the beta did have a leak. I have a 8G machine and twice after 1-2 hrs I would slow to a crawl. I didn't note the memory usage but
    killing the process and restarting everything fixed it for me.
     
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    That's a memory leak, alright. Dang, that sucks.
     
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    It's a Beta calm down!!
     
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    So is BF4, BF3, BF Hardline.... they never exit beta.
     
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    You forgot to mention Battlefront. Or does it mean it exited beta?
     
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    Nope, just entered Beta.
     
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    It seems like Beta is less a technical specification nowadays and more some kind of mighty aegis to fend off any criticism. I want to say Minecraft started the trend of prolonged 'early access' (in concept if not in official form) but I'm sure it's just the most prominent example.

    Kind of a shame, really. The pessimist in me says the road we're taking is one where polished and finished games sold at a static retail price will be the exception, not the norm. Of course, I've been wrong before.
     
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    I will buy this once it goes on sale. Not worth $129.
     
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    hey guys does anybody played bf1 with 970m sli??
    I was vacation and I didn't have my system to test it
    thanks
     
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    With single 970M, did pretty well.. You'll easily do 1080p properly with 970M SLI..
     
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    frostbite engine games seem to do very well and the performance is consistent between games like BF4 and battefront.
     
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    TomJGX I HATE BGA!

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    Looks like that way!

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    Ain't war hell?