Battlefield 3 will be coming to consoles

Medal of Honor Comes With Battlefield 3 Beta - Xbox 360 News at IGN



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Full article:
http://www.neoseeker.com/news/14494...frostbite-2-engine-good-news-for-pc-gamers/va

 

so no true battlefield 3. how sad

 

Yep, developing such a large game for just PC players isn't enough money for the executives. The executives are demanding 70 million bail out money bonuses, but the US gov refused. They have to get that 70 million bonus somehow
- Referencing to Goldman Sach's CEO awarding himself 70 Million soon after Sachs switched from securities to banking to receive bailout money. Bleh.

 

Wish they made the console version only 14 player and PC 64 player or higher.
But at least Dice doesent make a Xbox 360 to PC port of the game.

PS: Also make it Dx11.

 

Welp! Done looking forward to this game! The Glory Days are over for Battlefield games.

 

Have you even played Bad Company 2? That game reeks of console optimization.

 

Go play BF2 and then Go play BFBC2, if you can't smell console all over it you need to get your nose checked.

 

The battlefield franchise seems to be on the decline. That's fine though, I'm perfectly happy with 1942/vietnam/2/2142.

 

&*%^&#%%$@#*(&()*_&**(%#!#$(*&_)&*(!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


was really hoping that they would have a good PC version for BF3....and I repeat..... (%^$*&*%*()&_)*)*$#%^!!!!!!

don't tell wingnut, he'll freak!

 

There goes my favourite PC game franchise. Consoles are just killing gaming in general.

 

Hahaha, that made me laugh...

Anyways back on topic.

I used to be a hardcore console gamer... I recently switched back to PC and I must say... PC is just so much more fun... but also has issues... Many more things can go wrong with a PC version of a game. Certain errors that occur with like 1% of users etc... Releasing a game on a console is much safer because nothing can go wrong... minus a scratched disc...

I just hate to see the way gaming is going... Everyone is turning to dedicated consoles rather than the true gaming machine, the PC

 

Well I still have high hopes. You have to remember that the basic features sets of the PS3 and 360 are pretty good. Any kind of game can be made for them if devs are willing to deal with the constraints of the system. Crysis was a supreme example of this. The memory constraints would've highly limited the graphical variety of a console version of the title. We could still get a proper BF3 and the consoles get their watered down version. I think it's highly possible and I'm hoping for it.

At least we can revel in the thought of PCs always having a place. Consoles walk a razor-thin edge of failure/success these days, and our PCs will always be around to play games on. It's at least finally nice to see a real confirmation of BF3. I'm not surprised by BF3 on consoles at all. Now it's just a question of DICE being faithful.

 

Dice grew up on PC. We at least deserve a letter of appreciation. Or a coffee mug.

Consoles gaming is cheaper than PC gaming. That's the fallacy everyone assumes. Buying games over the course of 3 years will run you the same amount of a PC.

It's disappointing to see where gaming is going, quantity over quality.

 

I do own BF:BC2, and what i meant by "Not being a Xbox 360 to PC port" was that they bothered bumping the player cap, getting dedicated server support and Dx11.
Also PC players dont need to buy each map update as premium DLC. xD
(And yes, i get better fps with Dx11 than Dx10 on my ATI HD 5770 desktop card)

 

Actually, it's the man hours per game required to make a game that's killing gaming in general. Add that to the fact that people got fed up with upgrading a PC every quarter (as shown by the dwindling PC gaming numbers), and you got yourself a perfect storm where developers have to develop muliplatform games to justify the costs.

I'm sure EA would be just fine with throwing together a new BF2 that looks and plays like the current iteration, but that won't sell to anyone. People want DX11 and all the bells and whistles:2K textures, physics, destructibility, 50 weapons all customizable, ect, ect, ect. Thats a ton more man hours, and thus cost.

You don't buy PC games? (whoops!)

j/k

I think the not having to trouble shoot or worry about upgrading is the main draw. Plug and Play is value added, even at the cost of the shiniest new bell.

 

good thing sc2 is still pc exclusive ^^

I hope they make console ports like 18 player online while pc one gets like 128 lol

 

I'm going to echo what TyrantII said. Upgrading your PC every 3 or 6 months just to play a new game gets pretty expensive. I'm blown away that there still are people that will spend $2,000 to upgrade to the latest and greatest, just to be able to play a new $50 game or two. Although it seems to have mellowed out some, I remember the day when upgrading was absolutely necessary to play the latest releases.
In the end, I think that console gaming probably is cheaper in the long run, since companies usually stick with their console systems for quite a while before releasing a new system.
As for gaming in general, there just doesn't seem to be any new content, atleast on the PC platform. Just the same stories, same games, rethought and rereleased over and over. That's why for me anyway, there are no new PC games that interest me any more. New, fresh content is rare. I honestly think that PC gaming is on the decline, and will continue to decline as consoles take over the gaming market. I have a theory that eventually games will become massively multiplayer MOBILE platforms. Why lug around a laptop, when you can hold a gameboy in your hand while sitting on the bus/train/what-have-you and duke it out with hundreds of others over a wireless connection? It would be hard for the PC to top that, and I think that's where gaming is heading.
Something to ponder I guess.

 

I will NOT FREAK!



I might just have to take an extended vacation in the mountains though...

 

It's official: PC gaming is dead!
BF3 was the last remaining hope I had in this franchise. I mean how could they possibly fit a FPSRTS featuring full-scale battle, vehicles with complex controls and over 64-player servers into a dumbed-down anachronism of itself? The one fiber of hope I held onto after the misnomer that is BC2, was that they're merely biding their time for an eventual return to prestigious glory that was BF2.
And somehow I knew it was a fool's dream. Dare I believe they'll make any glimmer of a successful port without severely dumbing down the PC version? fool me once...

 

I have a question. If gaming on the PC were to end, would it push graphics card prices up? Would it end innovation in the graphics card industry? I wonder.

Red rum! RED RUM!! :laugh:

 

I'll be the naysayer and still believe BF3 for the PC will be good. Let them make it multiplatform, it'll help fund the development and maybe in a few patches the PC version will be what all of us want. Bad Company started as a console title so it's no surprise that BC2 is still consolized. I don't think DICE will screw up BF3.

 

I hope that they will make it GREAT on all platforms Specially the PC.

 

This. Everyone else is basically saying that DICE should have put the (somewhat selfish) desires of the hardcore minority above the profits earned from catering to the majority, which is a stupid thing for a business to do. Might as well just give away the game for free in that case. Wait until we at least know a little about the game before passing judgment. It's stuff like this that caused me to almost totally quit playing games on ANY platform.

 

Fact. If its being released on consoles and its designed by DICE your gonna get the following game

-Weighted controls
-Weighted Movement
-A story line
-Possibility of non dedicated serves (but after MW2 I don;t think anyone would make this mistake)
-16v16 max firefights
-Linear levels

I've been a veteran of BF2/2142 for some years now. Actually, BF2 WAS the reason I started PC gaming. However after playing their latest installments (including the Medal of Honor Beta) i've pretty much given up on the series. The controls of the console versions make me want to strangle a goose.

Personally, even if they remade BF2 with better graphics I'd rebuy it... That game is simply amazing.

 

Let's all go! NBR MOUNTAIN PARTY, AWW YEAH

If PC gaming ended completely, then nobody would need to buy graphics cards except the CAD crowd, and they use the Quadro/FirePro workstation cards anyway, which have always been a separate market from the gaming GeForce/Radeon cards.

I hope you're right, but I'm not keeping my fingers crossed.

Agreed with 100% of this post, except the dedicated servers bit. They included them in BC2 specifically because of MW2, so it's virtually impossible that they would leave them out for BF3.

I wouldn't even know what to do with myself, it would be too awesome.

Oh god, imagine doing the same thing for 2142!

 

Yeah, PC Communities around the world are raging over this.


But if we look at this from the other perspective;


This game will be made for Directx11.

The consoles have Dx9 graphics cards and can't do 10 or 11. This could give us hope that PC is the lead platform, and therefore the game will later get ported to consoles, and then there is a chance the game won't get "dumped down".
64 Players and Mods is simply a must.


BF1942 and BF2 are genius games, that have done so much for online gaming. But even, if Battlefield were to die, much like Call of Duty and Medal of Honor also moved to consoles after their PC success, some other gem will pop up on PC that will rethink how we view PC Online gaming.


Right now im playing the living daylight out of Mount and Blade Warband. That has a 250 player server that is amazing. Gives me a medieval battlefield vibe, and thats from a small turkish indie developer!

 

True, if PC is the lead, which would be a huge change for current development paths, it will most likely turn out ok.

 

Excuse me, how is this selfish? When the only thing that lends credence to the Battlefield series or the existence of both DICE and EA is PC gamers. No, of course you don't see this as a stabbing in the back, or a peddling to the lowest common denominator instead of upholding standards. I don't mind them releasing BC2, but what irks us is when, on our backs, you take from us our beloved titles and give it to them, leaving us with the disfigured and mangled leftovers.

This is the inevitability of commodification, everything gets watered down to baseline. I see it a lot like the music industry, where we've come a ways for the rennaisance and classical periods to now, where finding innovation is scarce among the Britney Spears and T-Pains. You paint a very real picture, I envision a future where high-end graphics are only for the scientific and professional, while mobile devices and embedded gaming systems sporting casual games will receive the overwhelming majority of attention from developers.

edit: since everyone's doing reaction videos...
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*shivers* i saw the word "port" way too much. consoles are killing the PC but i know how to kill the console. THATS RIGHT i said it. Let the PC players play against the console players. Thats right i said it again. PC vs ps and xbox. its been tested before and newb PC players in first person shooters raped "pro" players on the consoles it was a route. if the console player realizes how poor the consoles are in comparison then the PC will get its boost. people would not want to play certain games on the console and the buisiness would go back in the PC favor. Im ready for my multimillion dollar contract now.....

 

They only did a Xbox 360 vs PC.
Maybe someday we could get a PS3 vs PC online since both platforms doesent include the same restrictions as Xbox Live.

Wants Portal 2 with crossplatform multiplayer coop!

 

"When you assume, you make an out of you and me." As has been stated, the PC might still be the primary platform. The Bad Company series was intended mainly for console gamers, but that in no way means the main series will follow suit.

Now, tell me this. If you were working at DICE, would you honestly sacrifice major profits to keep your hardcore fans happy? If so, please avoid ever getting involved in business because you will fail miserably. They don't make games as a service to gamers; they do it because they want money and they enjoy making it this way. You might want to argue that that's selfish, and you may be right. However, that's what works in this business.

Now, I'm not saying "be hopeful" or anything like that. However, I do believe that it's too early to say what this game will be.

 

Amen to that! I really would wish they would make a 3 way battle. show all those CoDMW consolers that they arent as good as they want to believe. most console players havent even heard of TF2 unfortunately its a shame really on xbox live its hard to find even a half full room.

Portal 2 ..... *drools*

 

I think BF3 may be something similar to the PS3 MAG game. Lots of players over various instances (maps) that show a pseudo cohesion. (wow that was a mouthfull).

I think PC gaming lately has been a letdown. Each new title has to outshine the last by utilizing the latest and greatest graphics engine and blah blah blah. Whatever happened to making a game that scales well for everyone and is fun to play? I mean COD MW2 is not a great game. People like it because even a low end laptop can install, adjust video settings and play and have fun.

Best Wishes,

StevenX

 

For the love of god don't even slightly compare MAG to BF. That game was the worst POS i've ever played as far as FPS's go.

I've played BF2/2142 since launch. MAG made me vomit.

 

Dude we'd be teabagging fragging and pulling off headshots at the same time. But yes I'd like to say this. However due to XBL thats impossible. FFXIV is letting PS3 and PC players co-exist.

 

hm... for me it was probably star wars tie fighter all those years back. then thief 1 & 2 along with Deus Ex locked me into it. I may have a 360 but i honestly only use it for netflix and an occational dose ofof trash talk with my bestest best buddy in the world who is too lame to play PC

 

I think BF3 will suck...

 

If they don't stick to their roots.... Yes, yes it will suck. But rather than barely make the 10 character posting limit why don't you enlighten us with your reasonings behind such a statement.

 

MAG just kind of sucked. Yeah it had alot of people, but it had very little in the way of coherent combat. Too many BF-like games try way to hard to control the ebb and flow of battle by giving squads/teams specific jobs instead of letting things work themselves out. That's why BF2 and 2142 are so awesome. People figure things out as they should be, so you can choose to squad up or go solo if you want. With so many options in order to gain points and help your team, it's much more fun and different per game if you want it to be. Also................JETS..............Muawahwwhaahahah.

I really hope BF3 bumps itself up to 128 people, or 256 if it's feasible. It would bring some justification to increasing map size as player density in BF2 is already good but could be an issue for the consoles to handle unless concessions were made for them......however games like Just Cause 2 should give some indication that they could handle some large scale areas without giving up too much.......

Pretty much I want BF2 exactly the way it is but with better graphics (duh), larger maps, more people per server and more realistic aircraft handling which would help to alleviate the jet-raping in BF2. The helos are fine, as they are already incredibly vulnerable to ground fire. I guess an increase in squad size would be nice too, maybe up to 10 players per squad if BF3 goes the 128+ players route. The game should have the same amount of destructibility as Bad Company 2, if not scaled back a bit if the maps get really big, otherwise servers might have a tough time handling it, but it should be feasible. The same BF2 interface should be kept, as BC2's feels very clunky to me. I wish the BF2142 style of upgrading and ranking up would be utilized so we have a bit more freedom in the upgrade path instead of doing things that pertain to a specific class. BF2142 was all about mixing classes. BC2 does in some ways but it's like that from the get go (machine gunner + medic = W.T.F. mate). I want my prone capabilities back, and weapon handling in BC2 is way too run-n-gun. BF2 was a nice balance requiring prone for the machineguns while assault rifles were useful when standing but required controlled fire to be effective.

 

Jets are my main issue with BF2...I really do think it would be a perfect game if the only aircraft were helicopters. I have literally never seen China win a round on Wake Island 2007 because the airfield is cappable, and that's the first thing the US team does: they bum-rush the airfield with jets, leaving the Chinese virtually unable to spawn, until they overrun it through sheer numbers, and then the US has two functional airbases and the Chinese lose.

tl;dr - jets in BF2 are overly difficult to counter.

 

It's being made for consoles... That's my reason... Will probably just be something ala Bad Company..

 

Wake up man, DICE has been under the iron grips of EA and are in fact wholly owned by them. They do what they say for who they say. If it means they sell-out their biggest franchise and leave diehard supporters in the cold because the grass is greener elsewhere (and they already have, in case you forgot the latest BF incarnations have been for console) then the best they can and have done is to resign some of their leads on principle. Other than that, it's put up or shut up. And that my friend is how business works in real life.

If you knew your gaming, you'd know that even the likes of Redwood and their ground-breaking IP could not stand up to EA's midas touch. You'd know who calls the shots in that arrangement, and you'd also know that BF2 was ridden with bugs, and all BF series suffered from scalebacks because of time pressures by EA. And what of Mirror's Edge? possibly the last innovative IP by DICE that they wanted to explore further, only to be told they can't because it failed to suffice EA's greed quota.

Now tell me this, when was the last time in this decade or millenia you heard of a multi-platform game that wasn't in any way dumbed-down for the least capable of its platforms, if not entirely ported from it to PC?
There's hope, then there's wishful thinking, then there's just plain old willful ignorance.

 

You know what I meant. However, based on your attitude, the game was doomed from the start. In which case, you're complaining about something that you knew would happen. That's life. Yes, EA sucks, and you knew that. Therefore, you knew that BF was a doomed franchise. That makes this whole thread one giant overreaction, which is the most annoying thing about gamers in general across all platforms. Is the game most likely going to suck compared? Obviously. But can it be still surprise us or at the very least be a decent game in it's own right. What it won't be, however, is the end of PC gaming unless it means the end of gaming in general.

But, maybe I don't know enough. Maybe gaming really is all about loyalty and nostalgia. Maybe PC gamers and console gamers really do have more differences than taste in genres and gameplay types. Maybe a new game sucking does make an old game less fun. My apologies. I'll take my ignorance out of this thread now. No need to respond, because I don't know what I'm talking about and won't respond after this to avoid further embarrassment.

 

lol @ people who thought it'll stay on PC.
Many major PC-only series have moved to consoles. Your all-time favorite Crysis is no exception, remember that?

 

And EA owns Crytek.

 

New update, please see first post.

In short: BF3 will not support Windows XP and DirectX 9

The article is a good read, gives me a little more hope that PC will be the lead platform.
Battlefield 3 leaving DX 9 behind, Frostbite 2 engine good news for PC gamers - Neoseeker News Article

 

Didn't get through more than a paragraph before the BS meter already peaked. blah blah blah, EA apologists and massagers.

DICE may be many things, the best I've heard is "accidentally successful", but "clever": never. Yes, because "blow people away" is the smart phrase of 2010

Rendering engines can be swapped at the drop of a hat, and particularly we all know that DX10,11 didn't bring any much wow factors that are worth shattering a game over (pun intended for Shattered Horizons fans), so really whatever handful of eye candy PC gamers get maybe accounts for 5% of the game for us, and until I hear otherwise, I'm going to assume the rest of the 95% is being developed for consoles (as has every other multiplatform release this decade).

If they wanted to really avert our fears, they would confirm GAMEPLAY elements that can't ever possibly be multi-platform. Such as 80+ player maps with complexity, including land sea and air vehicles, all with complex controls/movement, finally topped with a little sprinkle of top-down commanding that we've all come to know as the BF formula. And yet strangely they are quiet on this front...

When we see this elements revealed unscathed (not dumbed-down in the slightest), then and only then will we maybe consider it's not going to be a dumbed-down console port.

 

So essentially BF3 is just going to be battlefield bad company 2 with some different maps and guns?

 

I actually doubt this, but to accomidate for consoles its definitely going to peeve some PC players (including me)

 

I'm ok if they design for PC and then scale down for consoles, but if its the other way around, PC's are screwed.