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    Battlefield Bad Company 2

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by spookyu, Feb 1, 2010.

  1. spookyu

    spookyu NBR Zombie Expert

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    Alright so I've been snooping around looking to see if this it worthy of the battlefield franchise name, and I can't find the real kicker: how many players will it support in multiplayer? This is going to determine if this game is homage to the bf series and worth a buy or not, if EA cuts corners, and doesn't develop the PC version separately from console version, then it won't have 64 player support. That completely breaks the deal for me, I might as well go play COD4. I'm a little fired up about this, because I can see it happening already (it's cheaper, and it's always about the money) and the bf series was my thing, THE game I could always turn back to. But before I got ape **** anyone know for sure how many it will support in multiplayer?

    Edit: Nevermind, answered my own question, it will only support 24 players. Huh, imagine that, cutting the BF franchise off at the knees because it's easier that way.
     
  2. Rorschach

    Rorschach Notebook Virtuoso NBR Reviewer

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    the map is already crowded as it is and they aren't really larger than mw2 maps . Fyi the servers say cap out at 32.
     
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    I've seen a few servers with more than 32-players, it is a server side variable. Needless to say the BETA still needs a lot of work so it's hard to even get a rough idea of how it will turn out...better than MW2 probably. Well actually, considering all the lag and hacker issues with MW2...anything that doesn't lag would automatically be better.
     
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    Just me or does it seem like if your on the attacking team you have a really big advantage? Seems like the only time my team ever wins is if they are really focus on team work and mark targets.
     
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    Still, big maps and lots of players is a staple of the series. Maybe I should see it in action before I pass judgement though.
     
  6. Rorschach

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    nah its not worth it, the beta is somewhat fun, but considering they have this many issues one month before release, the full release is bound to still have a lot of issues.
     
  7. spookyu

    spookyu NBR Zombie Expert

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    Lmao, cue flashback to BF2. That gamey was buggy as heck for the longest time, still fun regardless. The 1.50 patch they put out fixes...well everything. A couple years in the making though :p
     
  8. Bronsky

    Bronsky Wait and Hope.

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    still runs buggy for my asus g50 :rolleyes:

    btw how do you get the pc beta? I am very curious about this game
     
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    Rorschach Notebook Virtuoso NBR Reviewer

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    pretty much to late to get into the beta if you haven't already. Anyone thats actually played the beta Bronsky that means not you, can tell it was not developed from the ground up for the pc. There are even less configuration settings than the previous battlefield games, a lack of prone basically kills the recon class ect. Things that would have been obvious to keep intact for pc players have clearly been removed to accommodate for console gamers.
     
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    I just preordered from Steam to get in the Beta. I didn't know that they could charge you before the game was released? But they withdrew the $50 out of my PayPal already. Not real happy about that.

    No prone? !#$!@#$%

    What were they thinking? That is key to the Battlefield games. Heck, only way to get around claymores (after patch 1.5) in Battlefield 2.
     
  12. Mastershroom

    Mastershroom wat

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    From what I've read, the actual game is a different build than the beta, and many of the issues present in the beta are not present in the final product.
    Yeah, that's how Steam pre-orders work. You pay upon checkout.
    And good riddance. I'm pretty sick of BF2's "he who prones first wins" system.
     
  13. Rorschach

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    haha guese your refering to the people that jump and land in the prone position? Thats actually pretty annoying, but only being able to crouch or stand while playing as recon is like being a deer in the headlights.

    Having a hard time buying that they put out this pos beta when they have a completely playable game.
     
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    Grrr. Most places only charge you a nominal fee of $5 or $10 or don't charge at all, and you put that payment towards the final purchase price.
     
  15. mtness

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    i personally think the beta shows alot of promise, the amount of people that have flooded their forums about the "no prone" ability suggests to me that it will be in the end product.
    i enjoy the beta of this game much more than mw2 and have only hopped onto mw2 once since the betas release......
    MW2 just doesn't have the realism that BFBC2 shows........
    this is my first battlefield game and im sold.........
     
  16. Mastershroom

    Mastershroom wat

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    Crouching isn't so bad. Sniping becomes a question of finding good cover and camouflage.
    For retail stores, yeah. It's a bit harder to manage with Steam, though. Imagine if someone put down $5 for BC2, got the pre-order, and then removed their credit card from their account before the rest of the purchase price was charged.
     
  17. Rorschach

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    >.> sounds like steam would make 5$ off a free beta key then. Not like people get access to the preorder till its released anyways, so steam certainly could handle it.

    I gave up on finding cover, the marking system and destroyable environment makes picking off snipers pretty easy. I've had much better luck using a shotgun with the recon outfit rushing in and planting c4 on the coms. Then I just wait for the opposing team to rush in and pick them off :D.
     
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    And Steam can prevent you from playing any game or all games if they want to.
     
  19. Necromas

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    The xbox demo has a lot less bugs than the PC beta, so it's probably just the PC beta is an old build.
     
  20. 8ball85

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    i played the beta , game is not bad but like rorschach said you cannot config the settings alot
     
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    i wish they made a ps3 demo -.-
     
  22. Rorschach

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    Forgot to mention there is no team damage in the beta but you can kill yourself with your own explosives....don't recall that being in the other battlefield games.
     
  23. phemark

    phemark Notebook Consultant

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    i think its gonna be out every day now
    i think its server thing, you can set team damage on or off


    im currently playing BF:BC2 on xbox360 (while waiting to buy new PC), and its quite fun :) xbox have only 24 players, but its still quite enough in this map, and with PCs 32 playrs it should be plenty. I just love destruction, awesome!

    and prone, you dont really need it, you still can hide if youre sniper, no big deal, and makes a game a bit faster :)



    overall cant wait for my new PC and release of BF:BC2 :)


    P.S. best thing in BC2 - place tracer dart on a helicopter (after many tries :)) and then shoot a rocket - epic :)
     
  24. steelroots7xe

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    While they made significant improvements on gameplay and environments, it came at a cost for the PC version. Tried it on my brother's Asus F8Sn, with Intel T9300 and NVIDIA GeForce 9500GS 512MB. Those specs were quite powerful about a year and a half ago. Now, trying the demo on lowest settings it still lags.

    Man, looks like I'm gonna have to get it for the 360. Seems like all the newer games using new engines (like BF Bad Company 2 with the Frostbite Engine) require much higher specs found in newer notebooks. The Nvidia Geforce 8xxx series are slowly becoming obsolete.
     
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    I wouldnt worry too much about the lag on the beta, i have some friends who play it and they have all said it lags and on some powerful st ups too. So we figured this is just a beta problem.
     
  26. phemark

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    i bet Dice is doing a hell of a lot optimisation for the final version for the PC, because their forums are full of people with powerfull mashines gettings crappy FPS. i definetely think that final version and then patch 1 and 2 will ahve more optimasation for PC :)

    (but i tyhink it still will require quad core for good gameplay (i think one core is almost dedicated for sounds, which are beautiful :) (well probably not whole core :)
     
  27. WysockiSauce

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    Anyone remember GTA IV. Don't kid yourselves people this is a console port, the frostbite engine was built specifically for the consoles. Don't even bother trying it on your laptops. If they really cared about us pc users like they said they do, they would have made a game from the ground up for the pc. But there isn't enough $$$ in that apparently.
     
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    I love the PC Battlefield Bad Company 2 beta. Personally I also like the no prone ability. It keeps the pace fast and furious instead of a campfest or dolphin diving that it would turn into with prone enabled. Besides, the developer has already stated there will be "no prone" in the game. There was no prone in the first Bad Company and there won't be in the second...end of story
     
  29. Mastershroom

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    To be fair, the 9500 GS was never really a powerhouse gaming graphics card.
     
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    what resolution, settings do you play and how many FPS?
     
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    Yeah, 9500m GS is basically 8600m GS, right? I have an 8600m GT in my Vostro 1500 that was mid-range 3 years ago. So I am not surprised it doesn't perform real well.
     
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    there are already hardcore servers up in the beta which adds team damage and then penalizes you if you damage your teammates by you earning - xp. as well as that no huband more damage makes it heaps of fun

    i disagree i think i high end c2d will fair fine with this game i have the p9700 and don't experience any lag or slowdown at all during the beta with 32 man games up......im guessing most of the slowdown and lag issues are server related not necessarily machine based.......the servres i connect to in aussie all have around 50 ping, and as i said the game runs a dream.
     
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    I don't know why people keep complaining about performance. Seems fine to me. Most performance issues can be directly attributed to poor computer maintenance and thereby having a poorly optimized OS. With the desktop in my sig I can pull in 45fps on avg at 1920 x 1200 with all settings on high except shadows and effects on medium. 1xAA (off) and 8xAF w/ HBAO off.

    Most people experiencing poor performance are n00bs. And no, you definitely DO NOT need a Quad to run this game maxed out.
     
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    Gahh! I'm so on the fence about buying this game. I LOVE the BF series, but its so back and froth with this one. I don't know what do to! How does the gameplay stack up to BF2 or the like? Does it FEEL like battlefield still? I'm just really worried about the gameplay fealing just like MW2, because with these changes it sounds so much like it.
     
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    No need to preorder it just wait to see if its really going to be fixed in the final release. There are quite a few alternatives to fill the gap for the time being.
     
  36. mtness

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    i havent played any of the other battlefield games so i cant comment on that side of it, but trust me when i say BFBC2 is nothing like MW2, ive played something like 360+ hrs of MW2 and BFBC2 is like a breath of fresh air, it just feels right somehow, more difficult, more realistic and more team based.......i cant say if its similar to earlier BF but its not like MW2.
     
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    Spookyu- This game feels like previous battlefield games in terms of gameplay,but on steroids. You can now blow holes in the walls to get to someone, so they can't just hide in a building an be safe. In terms of it being more realistic, and team based, it's still holding true. This is nothing like that bs MW2, which btw I haven't played since about a month after it came out. If you're planning on playing with that laptop in your sig, then I'd hold out for a demo or see if they improve the optimization. I have a feeling that c2d at 2.1 is going to struggle to get good fps. My c2d at 3.3-3.5ghz pull between 30-60fps depending on what is going on at low-med at native reso 4x AA/AF no vsync. The game heavily depends on the cpu, and for that reason you might want to upgrade if you want this game.
     
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    hey folks,
    I wasn't able to get my hands on a beta key, but I am a huge BF2 fan. It's probably the game I have played the most out of the ones I have owned, so regardless to say I am quite excited about BC2. Theses issues that people have been having do worry me a bit though; I definitely don't want to run into a GTA4 problem (purchased, then regretted purchasing later). That being said, would anyone know how this game would perform on my M860TU (stats in sig)? As always, your help is appreciated! Cheers
     
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    You are correct that I have not played beta yet. Still waitin to hear how the game is. Battlefield did away with prone quite some time ago, claiming it was done to equalize the advantage that snipers had in the game. Beta with preorder is still open but I hear the game is so buggy that it is more unplayable than COD MW2 (which is trash). I may just wait for the release and see what the reviews look like. Till then I may go back to COD4 or play the Star Wars varient beta.
     
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    well ive had enough. canceling order and deleting beta and going back to mw2.
    for some reason the whole multiplayer side of things does nothing for me at all.
    i must be getting old.
     
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    When did they take prone away in BF2? I'm pretty sure I was on recently (IMA 24/7 Jalalalalalbad) and was able to go prone with, atleast, the support and medic classes..... this is news to me!
     
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    ugh, the bullet detection is awful so far with all the lag. Somehow only a shotgun is remotely useful up close. A machine gun can't even kill someone point blank...
     
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    I canceled too, Appart from the massively bad performance i get on my PC, it just doesnt feel like BF2 or even 1942 used to feel to me. it just feels empty.
     
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    Bad Company felt nothing like the previous BF series, so I couldn't imagine BC2 would be any better. EA/Dice left a huge fan base in their dust, as they decided to cater to the console fans. Very weak. I remember spending hours with my squad playing BF2. Ah, my 6800GT/P4 days... :)
     
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    I still do spend a lot of time on bf2, and I gotta say bf2 is much better than BC2, I get better overall game experience. but maybe when full version of bc2 will come out it will become much better.
     
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    I preordered and cancelled also. So much of the game just feels "off"- it's hard to describe.
     
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    Yeah, it absolutely does not feel BF2 in any way, shape, or form. I love BF2. Was hoping this would fill the void until BF3, but maybe not. I will play beta a little more and cancel pre-order (if I can, bought through Steam) if it doesn't feel any better.
     
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    damn maybe im really missing out on some of the earlier BF games if you are all considering canceling your orders......i cant really fault the game as far as betas go......
     
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    You can cancel your order through steam- only applies to preorder products before the (final) game is released.
     
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    I think I'm the only one who actually liked the idea of removing prone...the whole prone shoot thing has like the worst thing to happen to FPS' in the past years lol.
     
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