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    Best Buy COD:MW2 Live Chat

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by usapatriot, Nov 3, 2009.

  1. usapatriot

    usapatriot Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    http://forums.bestbuy.com/t5/Call-of-Duty-Developer-Chat/ch-p/COD#

    I'll post the most significant questions here. Chat is full, max users is 300. Chat is over.

    I did not post a full transcript of the chat here, I only posted all the questions and answers relevant to PC users. Do note that the vast majority of questions during the chat were directed at IW.net and their decision to not allow dedicated servers.

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  2. Ripfire

    Ripfire Minecraft Architect

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    LMAO!
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    But seriously,
    Nice to see some real responses to some serious questions though, even if its not the answer we want. :)

    This game is still pure fail though,
     
  3. usapatriot

    usapatriot Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    In other words, no mods, ever.
     
  4. mew1838

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    Fail game........
     
  5. HTWingNut

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    So how will this work on consoles then? Same way? An Xbox 360 or PS3 will be hosting the game?
     
  6. naticus

    naticus Notebook Deity

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    I respect the fact that the guy had enough courage to answer some of these questions. That said, everyday this game looks more and more like a direct console port. I mean no lean? p2p connections ( and a lot of people use wireless routers= laaaaggggggg).

    What they should have done, really, was not release this on the PC at all. They have ruined the call of duty name for good.
     
  7. darthvader1432

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    hmmmm

    I'm not sure why so many pc gamers are angry about this no dedicated server thing.

    I played cod4 for xbox 360 and the matchmaking worked fine and so did the private matches. I loved cod4 for 360

    I will wait until this game comes out and see what reviews it gets.
     
  8. TomTom2007

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    No lean?? Seriously? Am I understanding this correctly? I can't shift my upper body left or right anymore?
     
  9. mew1838

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    Was the decision to create IWNet for PC a profit based decision or a 'genuine improvement of the game'?
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    To improve the game, it actually cost us money to develop it so the there isn't a profit motive.


    bull............................
     
  10. Theros123

    Theros123 Web Designer & Developer

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    PC gamers are a fickle bunch. Why don't we all let the damn game come out and then judge it?
     
  11. Mastershroom

    Mastershroom wat

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    Because the PC is not the Xbox 360, and for us PC gamers, dedicated servers have been a standard of multiplayer for years.
     
  12. AznImports602

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    Im more angry at the $60 price tag...
     
  13. Wattsclan

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    $60 US on Steam for you guys in Australia it is $89.95 "US" on Steam
     
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    Because they are giving us plenty of information to judge it on right now.

    Also, for most of us it is advantageous to judge the game before making the decision to pre-order/buy it.
     
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    hehe my local shop here has it for $79 AUS for the PC version, where the PS3 & 360 version cost $99 AUS. :p http://www.jbhifi.com.au/games/modern-warfare-2/
    meh I'm actually glad 9v9 is the max coz I'm so sick of playing in those stupid CoD4 32 players spammy TDM. :rolleyes: (not that I want to play in them, but every TDM server I found are all 32 players and I haven't seen a single 20 players TDM in the last year or so..lol)
     
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    O I have it pre-ordered through JB-HI-FI here in Aus to fo $79 dollars just pointing out the Steam difference. Internode Hard Core servers only have 20 as max numbers
     
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    haha yea but I only play in those non-HC TDM servers. (I never liked hard core :p)
     
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    I can't believe they took leaning out of the game? That is a step forward? That is mind boggling! How do you take something that is realistic like that out of a game?

    Seriously, I am asking? What is the benefit of that?

    I want to cry every time I read about this game.
     
  19. usapatriot

    usapatriot Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Honestly, I think PC gamers have every right to know as much as possible about a game when it comes out, especially MW2 because:

    1) Removing dedicated servers and implementing a console-like matchmaking system is questionable.
    2) PC gamers CANNOT resell their $60 game since it's tied to STEAM. (Unlike console players).

    So I think we do have a bit of a reason to be upset about the whole thing.

    Other things to be upset about:
    -9v9 max player limit.
    -5s pause when host migrates during a game.
    -All of the still unanswered and/or avoided questions relating to IW.net.
     
  20. CooLMinE

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    No lean was the last thing i wanted to hear about this game, now im definitely not buying it. Might as well rename it to CSMW2...
     
  21. hax0rJimDuggan

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    It amazes me how fast this game went from hero to zero. So many PC gamers were looking forward to this and now it's just hot garbage.

    9v9? Really? Come on now.
     
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    They created it for "balance" MY ...They are probably getting monthly kickbacks from steam or IW.Net = Valve servers. 9v9? LMAO unbelievable!
     
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    That could be interesting to be honest. I mean, maybe they're trying to move away from the whole Army vs. Army MP format to a more Special Ops Team vs. Special Ops Team?
     
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    Yeah and how many times in real life do you think spec ops teams go head to head? My guess would be never. In a modern combat setting the teams of 16v16 are probably the most realistic especially in Iraq/Afghanistan now. Why would they choose to take away what made COD4 great? So they can have an easier time porting from consoles to PC!
     
  25. usapatriot

    usapatriot Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    They also said during the PC interview that they were still working on the PC version of the game. Which means one of two things:

    1) They will delay the game's release as it is less than a week away.
    2) They decided to forget about the PC version till the last minute.
     
  26. Rahul

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    Did someone ask why they didn't release the Hardened and Prestige Edition for the PC? I just wanted to hear what garbage they would make up to get around the question. I'd just like to hear them say, "Fine, we admit it, we don't care about the PC platform at all, forget you guys!". Come on IW, just say it, the writing is already on the wall! :mad:
     
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    NOBODY uses body shifting! The Q & E keys have much better uses. Maybe if body shifting was an automatic feature it would be good..
     
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    Those still buying this game should go to their nearest mirror and laugh at their sad submissive state.
     
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    I'm still confused. Are consoles expected to act as game host/server as well? How is this even possible?
     
  30. CooLMinE

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    Those people need to learn to play better then :p Cod without leaning is not Cod imo, its counter strike with prone.
     
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    Then maybe it's just me.. I've never used Q and E for leaning... :wideeyed:
     
  32. CooLMinE

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    Nothing like "peekaboo" shots :D head out, snipe, head in :p

    That stands for all weapons of course, you have more cover by just leaning instead of strafing out of walls/corners.
     
  33. tianxia

    tianxia kitty!!!

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    just what is 'latency tolerance' exactly? the phrase keeps creeping up in answers regarding lag.
     
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    Since when is Call of Duty like ARMA or Flashpoint? I never saw this series as really all THAT realistic. But more of having great single player campaigns and great fast-paced, action oriented (note, not tactical at all) MP.
     
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    Yea 9v9 is weak. For me I do enjoyed a large amount of players to play against, but there are times I do enjoyed less players. But I would like to have the option of having more. I wonder who is in AUS is going to buy that game for that much.
     
  36. ryzeki

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    Now I am reading around that 0-300ms ping is considered good tolerance, then after 300 starts the medium yellow ping color...

    What the hell, I sometimes play with eve 100ms ping and that is already considered medium to bad.
     
  37. usapatriot

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    It's ridiculous really, they honestly don't give a damn about the PC audience and the interview made that clear.

    I am sure the SP will really shine, but what drives a game longevity is the MP, which will suck horribly. Lag will be rampant, game pauses while most migrates will be annoying, hackers will hack relentlessly, and griefers/obnoxious people will not get booted off servers.
     
  38. tianxia

    tianxia kitty!!!

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    lol 300ms.
    i depends on the game really, i can't play ut3 with more than 50ms ping. but dod source plays fine if the ping is under 100ms.
     
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    You have no proof of any of this bro.
     
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    Ping above 100=FAIL
     
  41. usapatriot

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    Yo broseph, I think the interview speaks for itself. Stage one: denial.