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    Best GPU for DOOM III-ATI vs Nvidia ?

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by Clearday, Aug 30, 2004.

  1. Clearday

    Clearday Notebook Evangelist

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    System
    Intel Pentium 4 3.2 GHz FSB 800MHz
    Intel D875PBZ (i875)
    4x Corsair CMX256A-3200LL CL2, 1024MB
    Seagate Barracude 7200.7 120GB S-ATA (8MB)
    DVD Hitachi GD-7000
    Netgear FA-312
    Antec True Control 550W


    Drivers & Settings
    ATI Catalyst v4.9 Doom III Hotfix (Beta)
    NVIDIA v61.77
    Intel Inf. Update
    Windows XP Prof. SP1a
    DirectX 9.0b


    GPUs
    ATI Radeon 9200 (250/400 MHz, 128MB)
    Radeon 9600SE (325/365MHz, 128MB)
    Radeon 9600XT (500/600 MHz,128MB)
    Radeon 9800XT (412/730 MHz, 256MB)
    Radeon X800 Pro (475/900 MHz, 256MB)
    Radeon X800 XT Platinum Edition (520/1120 MHz, 256MB)
    NVIDIA GeForce 4 Ti 4200 (250/514 MHz, 128MB)
    GeForce FX 5200 Ultra (325/650 MHz, 128MB)
    GeForce FX 5700 Ultra (475/950 MHz, 128MB)
    GeForce FX 5900 XT (400/700 MHz, 128MB)
    GeForce FX 5950 Ultra (475/950 MHz, 256MB)
    GeForce 6800 (325/700 MHz, 128MB)
    GeForce 6800 GT (350/1000 MHz, 256MB)
    GeForce 6800 Ultra (400/1100 MHz, 256MB)

    DOOM III Benchmarks Demo 1 High Quality 1024*768 (32 bit)

    Radeon X800 XT 73.1fps
    Geforce 6800 Ultra 72.1fps
    Geforce 6800 GT 71.9fps
    Geforce 6800 69.0fps
    Radeon X800 Pro 64.2fps
    Radeon 9800XT 45.3fps
    Geforce FX 5950U 41.8fps
    Geforce FX 5900XT 34.7fps


    DOOM III Benchmarks Demo 1 High Quality 1280*1024 (32 bit)

    Geforce 6800 Ultra 68.2fps
    Geforce 6800 GT 64.9fps
    Radeon X800 XT 62.7fps
    Geforce 6800 57.8fps
    Radeon X800 Pro 48.4fps
    Radeon 9800XT 30.1fps
    Geforce FX 5950U 28.9fps
    Geforce FX 5900XT 23.2fps


    DOOM III Benchmarks Demo 1 High Quality 1600*1200 (32 bit)

    Geforce 6800 Ultra 60.2fps
    Geforce 6800 GT 55.9fps
    Radeon X800 XT 50.7fps
    Geforce 6800 46.1fps
    Radeon X800 Pro 38.4fps
    Geforce FX 5950U 24.1fps
    Radeon 9800XT 22.9fps
    Geforce FX 5900XT 17.8fps

    DOOM III Benchmarks Demo 1 Medium Quality 800*600 (32 bit)

    Geforce FX 5700U 45.1fps
    Radeon 9600XT 41.9fps
    Geforce 4 Ti 4200 32.1fps
    Geforce FX 5200U 25.8fps

    DOOM III Benchmarks Demo 1 Medium Quality 1024*768 (32 bit)

    Geforce FX 5700U 30.9fps
    Radeon 9600XT 26.9fps
    Geforce 4 Ti 4200 22.4fps
    Geforce FX 5200U 18.1fps

    DOOM III Benchmarks Demo 1 Medium Quality 1280*1024 (32 bit)

    Geforce FX 5700U 20.6fps
    Radeon 9600XT 17.8fps
    Geforce 4 Ti 4200 14.7fps
    Geforce FX 5200U 11.3fps

    DOOM III Benchmarks Demo 1 Low Quality 800*600 (32 bit)

    Geforce FX 5700U 47.2fps
    Radeon 9600XT 43.4fps
    Geforce 4 Ti 4200 34.0fps
    Geforce FX 5200U 26.9fps
    Radeon 9600SE 20.0fps
    Radeon 9200 13.4fps

    DOOM III Benchmarks Demo 1 Low Quality 1024*768 (32 bit)

    Geforce FX 5700U 33.2fps
    Radeon 9600XT 29.1fps
    Geforce 4 Ti 4200 21.9fps
    Geforce FX 5200U 17.7fps
    Radeon 9600SE 12.6fps
    Radeon 9200 9.4fps

    DOOM III Benchmarks Demo 1 Low Quality 1280*1024 (32 bit)

    Geforce FX 5700U 21.2fps
    Radeon 9600XT 18.1fps
    Geforce 4 Ti 4200 13.9fps
    Geforce FX 5200U 11.6fps
    Radeon 9600SE 7.9fps
    Radeon 9200 5.9fps

    Conc;Nvidia is in front side for DOOM III

    for best game experiment for DOOM III u can choice below:

    Advanced Class($350-up):
    NVIDIA GeForce 6800 Ultra
    NVIDIA GeForce 6800 GT
    Upper-Medium Class ($200-$350):
    NVIDIA GeForce 6800
    Medium Class ($100-$200):
    ATI Radeon 9600XT
    NVIDIA GeForce FX 5700 Ultra
    Beginner
    Unfortunately I cant advise you these cards,coz u cant play... even in 800*600 and low,lots of cutting views...




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  2. Ramadoss29

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    Everyone that follows the gaming industry knows that ID software formed an "alliance" with Nvidia. Doom 3 was meant to be optimized on Nvidia cards and not on ATI cards. Its old news. However, Valve Software has an "alliance" with ATI. Thus, when Half Life 2 comes out, it will be optimized on ATI cards and Direct 3d. And let's be honest here. There will be no comparison in sales volume between Half Life 2 and Doom 3. D3 has all but lost its popularity.
     
  3. Clearday

    Clearday Notebook Evangelist

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    Of course, it must be changed when new drivers updated.There is no discussion about your sentences...new hardwares,new drivers,new settings need new tests too...



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  4. Minidisk

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    Who cares about a 5 fps diffrents Between The two anyway :p
     
  5. mathlete2001

    mathlete2001 Notebook Deity

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    The same people that pay extra to get those cards. FPS makes a huge difference in first person shooters. Funny, they have the same acronym. Tell you anything[ :D]

    GPU cooling (100°C->75°C)* Inspiron 8600 * 1.8ghz Pentium M * 128 MB Radeon 9600 Pro Turbo (337/242 -> 400/300) * 2x512 MB DDR2700 SDRAM * Aquamark 3: 24058 * 3DMark'03: 3404 * 3DMark'01 SE: 13120
     
  6. EthelWulf

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    Andrew, How did you cool your GPU!? You did it on a 8600? I also have a 8500 with a nVidia 4200go in it... That would be awsome to cool my 9800 down more too and overclock it, do you also know how to put desktop drivers onto a laptop and what kind of problems can that create????
    Dell 8500
    2.4M
    512 PC2100
    nVidia geforce 4200go 64MB
    (Wife's Computer)

    "To Be Great Is To Be Missuderstood" ~Unknown

    Dell Inspiron 9100
    Pentium4 3.2GHz Desktop
    1GB DDR 400MHz
    60GB Ultra ATA 7200RPM Hard Drive
    ATI Mobility Radeon 9800, 256MB, 256-Bit Graphics Card
     
  7. Clearday

    Clearday Notebook Evangelist

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    Thanks Andrew for your fair comments...I have approximately done this test 3 days...I m going to post new tests too...


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  8. RCube

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    amd xp-m 2500+ @ 2.4ghz
    leadtek 6800nu @ 390/900
    win xp pro sp2
    driver 66.81
    dx 9.0c

    DOOM III Benchmarks Demo 1 High Quality
    1600*1200 (32 bit) -- 58fps


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  9. Clearday

    Clearday Notebook Evangelist

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    Yeah,I am going to continue test with Direct X 9.0c

    DOOM III Benchmarks Demo 1 High Quality 1024*768 (32 bit)

    Radeon X800 XT 75.4fps
    Geforce 6800 Ultra 74.4fps
    Geforce 6800 GT 73.5fps
    Geforce 6800 71.1fps
    Radeon X800 Pro 66.2fps
    Radeon 9800XT 47.4fps
    Geforce FX 5950U 43.2fps
    Geforce FX 5900XT 35.9fps


    DOOM III Benchmarks Demo 1 High Quality 1280*1024 (32 bit)

    Geforce 6800 Ultra 70.2fps
    Geforce 6800 GT 66.9fps
    Radeon X800 XT 64.4fps
    Geforce 6800 62.9fps
    Radeon X800 Pro 49.6fps
    Radeon 9800XT 32.4fps
    Geforce FX 5950U 29.7fps
    Geforce FX 5900XT 24.7fps

    DOOM III Benchmarks Demo 1 Medium Quality 800*600 (32 bit)

    Geforce FX 5700U 47.1fps
    Radeon 9600XT 43.3fps
    Geforce 4 Ti 4200 32.3fps
    Geforce FX 5200U 25.9fps

    DOOM III Benchmarks Demo 1 Medium Quality 1024*768 (32 bit)

    Geforce FX 5700U 32.4fps
    Radeon 9600XT 28.1fps
    Geforce 4 Ti 4200 22.4fps
    Geforce FX 5200U 18.1fps

    DOOM III Benchmarks Demo 1 Low Quality 800*600 (32 bit)

    Geforce FX 5700U 49.4fps
    Radeon 9600XT 46.6fps
    Geforce 4 Ti 4200 34.0fps
    Geforce FX 5200U 26.9fps
    Radeon 9600SE 22.0fps
    Radeon 9200 13.4fps

    DOOM III Benchmarks Demo 1 Low Quality 1024*768 (32 bit)

    Geforce FX 5700U 34.7fps
    Radeon 9600XT 31.4fps
    Geforce 4 Ti 4200 21.9fps
    Geforce FX 5200U 17.8fps
    Radeon 9600SE 12.8fps
    Radeon 9200 9.4fps


    Bottom line;Well direct x 9.0c has given a little bit fsp to upgradable gpus but 5200,9200,ti4200 all arent in among them.Especially,That I tested but not mentioned here Farcry game has been directly affected by the upgrade of directx...

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  10. Clearday

    Clearday Notebook Evangelist

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    Well many people has read my test,well done.

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  11. RealBelief

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    thanks clearday it s so helpful...ý wait more from u...[ :D]
     
  12. Clearday

    Clearday Notebook Evangelist

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    thanks RealBelief,


    I ve tried to make some sysmark and future marks for ten best known notebook nowadays,I ve post in some forums...I see here a little bit voiceless...[?]

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  13. cromat44

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    interesting to see that the highest end video cards performed about the same on all the different quality settings
     
  14. Clearday

    Clearday Notebook Evangelist

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    Well,I add some tests too,6600 gt sli and 6600 gt,I use double 6600GT in asus sli motherboard.And I noticed that double 6600gt sli gpu approximately equals 6800gt and more than 6800.And it s cheaper than 6800gt.Well here s the results of DOOM3 with sli and non sli.


    DOOM III Benchmarks Demo 1 High Quality 1024*768 (32 bit)


    Geforce 6600GT SLI 69.8FPS
    Geforce 6600GT 67.1FPS

    DOOM III Benchmarks Demo 1 High Quality 1280*1024 (32 bit)


    Geforce 6600GT SLI 63.3FPS
    Geforce 6600GT 47.7FPS


    DOOM III Benchmarks Demo 1 High Quality 1600*1200 (32 bit)


    Geforce 6600GT SLI 57.3FPS
    Geforce 6600GT 38.7FPS

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    the sun could melt it with a glance.
    A single spark of God's mercy
    can turn poison into springwater.
    Where there is doubt,
    He establishes certainty.
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  15. Clearday

    Clearday Notebook Evangelist

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    ouch lots of mails I take,,,well I m going to say below,please look at;


    6600gt sli almost equals 6800gt,but 6800gt has 12 pipeline and if u have a chance u can open other 4 pipeline more,and make it 16 pipeline like 6800 ultra.And in the high resolutions and "aa-af" mode the difference in 6800gt s widening...Of course more pipeline means more power...

    6600gt=8 pipeline
    6800gt=12 pipeline
    6800ultra=16 pipeline
    and all these cards use 3.0 standart,please do not forget,ati doesnt use 3.0 standart,they use 2.0.3.0 standarts provide more brilliant,more crisp images.Life-like images...


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  16. Clearday

    Clearday Notebook Evangelist

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    well hold it vivid...


    double 6800ultra sli is %60 better than single one.just tested.


    Love of the dead does not last,
    because the dead will not return.
    But love of the living
    is in every moment fresher than a bud,
    both the inward and the outward eye.
    Choose the love of that Living One
    who is everlasting, who offers you
    the wine that increases life.
    Do not say "We have no entrance to that King."
    Dealings with the generous are not difficult
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  17. RealBelief

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    Well, the order is in LGA 775 socket and 915P mainboards,the tests are going on this issue,performance in LGA 775 P5(HT) systems;

    Samsung 19" crt 997df Ivory type
    P5 3.2 (P4 HT 800Mhz 1mb Cache)
    Gigabyte 915P duo Pci Express Mainboard
    Sparkle 6600GT 500/1000mhz
    1gb 3200 ddr ram 400mhz (2*512)
    Philips DVDRW Double Layer 8.5gb per disc
    420 watt ThermalTake PSU
    160gb SATA Seagate 7200rpm 8mb tampon


    coming soon.

    (a rumor from Gigabyte,double GPU 6600GT chipset in a vga card
    think that,u are going to use double vga card [it means 4 6600GT in same board] in mainboard,and Intel announced double cpu in same card,what the hell market goes to?ouch)
     
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  18. Clearday

    Clearday Notebook Evangelist

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    well done RealBelief mate,

    I have upgraded my pc desktop in TURKEY recently...here s mine;

    CPU: P4 3.4 (HT) 550 775lga
    Mainboard: Asus
    GPU:6800 ultra (16 pipeline)
    Screen:21" LCD TV (widescreen) (horrible screen)
    Ram:2 gb
    Printer:Epson Photo X800
    HDD:Sata 74*2 Western Digital 10000 rpm
    Case:Sunbeam Laser Glass Case
    PSU:480 ThermalTAKE
    Cooler:6*fan,Ram vantec cooler,Hdd Vantec cooler,Zalman CPU water cooler


    regards.

     
  19. Clearday

    Clearday Notebook Evangelist

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    RealBrief,

    double 6600gt sli is really good and cheap choice for pc desktops. Especially I have tested double 6600gt sli is in front of single 6600gt with %80,and %20 more than ati x850xt...What an amazing good result. But u must not forget,double 6600gt sli needs more cooling system in case,u must hold temperature under 55...
    I have added a "vanteq-double fan" cooler pci card near double 6600gt.It reflects directly to gpu and draw its temp. to 42 degree...


    regards

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