The Notebook Review forums were hosted by TechTarget, who shut down them down on January 31, 2022. This static read-only archive was pulled by NBR forum users between January 20 and January 31, 2022, in an effort to make sure that the valuable technical information that had been posted on the forums is preserved. For current discussions, many NBR forum users moved over to NotebookTalk.net after the shutdown.
Problems? See this thread at archive.org.

    Black Mesa Source mod delayed, no 2009 release

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by Mastershroom, Dec 15, 2009.

  1. Mastershroom

    Mastershroom wat

    Reputations:
    3,833
    Messages:
    8,209
    Likes Received:
    16
    Trophy Points:
    206
    A rather unfortunate update for those of us who have been following the Black Mesa mod for the Source engine.

    For those who don't know, Black Mesa is a complete reconstruction of the original Half-Life in the Source engine, with custom models, textures, voices...everything is being built from the ground up. This project has been going on since 2004. Late in 2008, the development team released an official trailer claiming a 2009 release date. Now, in the final days of 2009, they've announced that they will not be able to make this deadline. So...2010? Who knows. :(

    http://forums.blackmesasource.com/showthread.php?t=2416
     
  2. key001

    key001 Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    776
    Messages:
    657
    Likes Received:
    7
    Trophy Points:
    31
    Black mesa forever
     
  3. joshthor

    joshthor 100% Crazy Sauce

    Reputations:
    163
    Messages:
    1,119
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    55
    not suprised. a little disappointing. but its free so i cant complain i suppose.
     
  4. @nthony

    @nthony Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    558
    Messages:
    585
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    It doesn't surprise me or that they would pull out completely - compared to HL1, modding for Source has generally resulted in failure by most who have tried. Even halfway-decent mods such as Eternal Silence or Empires, or Insects Infestation have inexplicably failed and my heart is crushed to see so much work gone to waste.
     
  5. Mastershroom

    Mastershroom wat

    Reputations:
    3,833
    Messages:
    8,209
    Likes Received:
    16
    Trophy Points:
    206
    They're still working on it, they just weren't able to make their projected 2009 deadline. And there are plenty of awesome Source mods. Ever heard of Garry's Mod? Zombie Panic: Source (I don't really like this one, but it sure is popular)? Pirates Vikings and Knights II? Age of Chivalry? Insurgency?
     
  6. @nthony

    @nthony Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    558
    Messages:
    585
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    So was Insects Infestation, by content alone there are plenty of "awesome" mods, but they all fail in either execution or to gather a following. Garry's Mod stopped being a "mod" when it licensed the engine, the others you mention all have servers in the range of maybe 1 to 15 on average, except for the last which is probably the most notable Source mod to date and yet with only a fraction of the success HL1 mods such as CS, DoD, TFC, or even NS had. There's just something about Source modding - the magic is lost.

    edit: actually it appears Gmod doesn't license its own copy of the engine, nevertheless it's not within the true spirit of a "free" mod.
     
  7. Mastershroom

    Mastershroom wat

    Reputations:
    3,833
    Messages:
    8,209
    Likes Received:
    16
    Trophy Points:
    206
    I think modding in general is just not where it used to be. Game engines have gotten more and more advanced and complicated over the years. Back in the day of Halo: Combat Evolved for PC and Halo Custom Edition, the modding scene was huge. When Halo 2 came about on PC, hardly anyone did anything with it.

    Same thing with Call of Duty...the original game, UO and CoD2 had mods galore...CoD4 and World at War, not so much, and of course there are no mods for MW2. Medal of Honor as well...Allied Assault and its expansions were modded to hell and back, but there's pretty much nothing for Pacific Assault and Airborne.

    I could go on and on.
     
  8. Necromas

    Necromas Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    198
    Messages:
    730
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    Ya, definitely not surprised, they were suspiciously quiet as the deadline grew closer and didn't really show any signs of being actually done.
     
  9. HTWingNut

    HTWingNut Potato

    Reputations:
    21,580
    Messages:
    35,370
    Likes Received:
    9,878
    Trophy Points:
    931
    That sucks. Maybe Valve will give them a hand, or just buy it off them and release it as an official mod. TBH I'd rather pay $20 for the mod and see the developers get paid and get it done, than leave it hung out to dry.

    I never finished the original Half-Life. It's weird, I would frequently get headaches and nausea when playing. Most FPS don't do that to me, but the original one did. Half-Life 2 didn't give me any issues, so hopefully this won't either.
     
  10. Mastershroom

    Mastershroom wat

    Reputations:
    3,833
    Messages:
    8,209
    Likes Received:
    16
    Trophy Points:
    206
    I honestly wouldn't be upset if they did that...hell, I'd pay $20 for this. It would beat the hell out of Valve's own Half-Life: Source anyway. :p
     
  11. stupidcha

    stupidcha Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    128
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    sigh.... depressing news....
    thank you OP for ruining my day...
     
  12. Element

    Element Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    192
    Messages:
    537
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    31
    Hopefully this means the end product will be better than if it was released now.
     
  13. Red_Dragon

    Red_Dragon Notebook Nobel Laureate

    Reputations:
    2,017
    Messages:
    7,251
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    205
    Where is my Perfect Dark Source?
     
  14. t3rR0r

    t3rR0r Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    19
    Messages:
    345
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    I was really looking forward to playing this over break... oh well... hopefully it will be complete and good within a few months... years... if it ever comes out haha
     
  15. moral hazard

    moral hazard Notebook Nobel Laureate

    Reputations:
    2,779
    Messages:
    7,957
    Likes Received:
    87
    Trophy Points:
    216
    I really did want to play it, I liked the original more than HL2.

    Too bad I never played HL opposing force.

    I hope they make a source mod of that :D
     
  16. masterchef341

    masterchef341 The guy from The Notebook

    Reputations:
    3,047
    Messages:
    8,636
    Likes Received:
    4
    Trophy Points:
    206
    that sucks! do you think i can get my money back?
     
  17. stupidcha

    stupidcha Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    128
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    go play on the 007 servers for css
     
  18. Thund3rball

    Thund3rball I dont know, I'm guessing

    Reputations:
    523
    Messages:
    1,777
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    55
    Bah! :(

    Oh well they are making what is probably the most anticipated mod ever so I can wait. In all honesty I would totally pay for this. Long live Black Mesa Source. Do your best guys! ... and thanks :)
     
  19. Mastershroom

    Mastershroom wat

    Reputations:
    3,833
    Messages:
    8,209
    Likes Received:
    16
    Trophy Points:
    206
    Haha, my bad.
    You should get Opposing Force if you haven't played it, I think it's either $5 or $10 on Steam. I liked it better than the other expansion for the original Half-Life, Blue Shift.
    What money? Did you donate to the project or something?
     
  20. Red_Dragon

    Red_Dragon Notebook Nobel Laureate

    Reputations:
    2,017
    Messages:
    7,251
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    205
    Lol ive been playing the beta since release 3.0 and goldeneye is NOT better then Perfect Dark :p