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    Blurry In Game and Slight Studer : 8600m GT

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by X2P, Aug 21, 2008.

  1. X2P

    X2P COOLING | NBR Super Mod

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    I have been trying dozens of drivers and cannot figure out the cause of this issue.

    Notebook: Dell Vostro 1500

    T7100
    320gb HD (issue started after swap to this hd but doubt any relation)
    4gb Corsair Ram
    8600m GT DDR2

    XP SP3


    In game and benchmarks such as GTA SA through to TF2, etc I encounter the game to be blurry instead of crisp. I am currently using 177.70 from LV2Go and powermizer off.

    This blurriness is causing a slight studdering and the image being blurred is enough to make gaming replusive but the studdering just makes it 100% ubearable.

    I ALWAYS run games at native resolution so do not suggest raising the resolution.

    Here is an example of how it looks in GTA SA (High settings no AA):

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    If you look at the map it is a good example. The map should be very crisp and as you see its very blurred. And the railroad tracks are very jagged next to usual and Carl or whoever it is (the black dude) is noticibly blurry aswell.

    Thanks in advance
     
  2. Arquis

    Arquis Kojima Worshiper

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    My guess is this:
    Jaggies caused because of no AA. Map looks fine to me though. Although that pic is really small on my screen.
     
  3. X2P

    X2P COOLING | NBR Super Mod

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    Usually its a different Jagginess without AA, I usually have AA on full but I couldnt as it was just plain painful how bad the quality of the images became.

    Unfourtunatly its harder to see the detail as I lowered image size in order for it to fit on here but should still be noticible. It is far worse in game
     
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    Atin Notebook Guru

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    I'm sorry, but i don't really notice anything unusual in that screenshot.
     
  5. Atin

    Atin Notebook Guru

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    Perhaps you could post a link to a full size one so we could see exactly what it looks like? Sorry for double post.
     
  6. X2P

    X2P COOLING | NBR Super Mod

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    X2P COOLING | NBR Super Mod

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    Usually in game it is crisp and the poles are not half as jagged.

    The image quality is not decreased

    Also if you look on top left part of the fencing on the over hang walkway is mising and the map shows the general blur
     
  8. WileyCoyote

    WileyCoyote Notebook Evangelist

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    what images are you comparing your screen shot to? Without a comparison I really dont see anything wrong with it. What resolution is your screenshot anyways? Most games running in 1280x800 are a little more blurry than their 1280x1024 counterparts.

    You should go to tweakguides.com and check out what they say about Nvidia control panel settings. The blurriness can be caused by the textures settings in that panel.
     
  9. X2P

    X2P COOLING | NBR Super Mod

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    I always run at native 1440 by 900 px.

    I did a quick search on tweakguides and I am looking right now

    Edit: so far no dice
     
  10. X2P

    X2P COOLING | NBR Super Mod

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    Ok after further testing I notice now that brightness is high even when set to lowest. Blacks = greys etc.
     
  11. dmacfour

    dmacfour Are you aware...

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    That looks about as good as it does on my setup...
     
  12. X2P

    X2P COOLING | NBR Super Mod

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    I know its not normal for my system as I have had it far far better. It is actually worse in game then screen shots.
     
  13. Mikelx215

    Mikelx215 Notebook Evangelist

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    Is your GPU set on 'performance' mode? Maybe it'd look nicer on 'quality'?
     
  14. X2P

    X2P COOLING | NBR Super Mod

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    I dont have performance mode as I run XP but power mizer is off. And it is set for the application to decide.

    From what I notice it appears its textures that are blurred causing the issue.


    Thanks for the reply
     
  15. X2P

    X2P COOLING | NBR Super Mod

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    Well I have just replaced the hard drive with my old hard drive and loaded up games and far smoother. It appears this hard drive (smaller) has slower load times then the new one but general apps run faster aswell.

    Could anyone clarify which driver is this.

    It says in device manager driver version 6.14.11.7770
     
  16. andygb40

    andygb40 Notebook Deity

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    that would be nvidia driver 177.70.
     
  17. X2P

    X2P COOLING | NBR Super Mod

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    Thanks Andygb.

    I guess its the HD then since I had tried that driver on my new hd.

    What would be causing this from the HD?
     
  18. Waldo Wainthrop

    Waldo Wainthrop Notebook Geek

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    Your map is blurry because the GTA map was ugly and pixely to begin with, but it's made worse by the fact that you're forcing widescreen for a game which does not have widescreen HUD support. So the HUD looks distorted and blurry because it is scaling from 4:3 aspect to 16:10. There is nothing to fix this for the GTA games. If you want your game to look sharper overall, run it in cropped 4:3 aspect ratio.
     
  19. Pai

    Pai Notebook Evangelist

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    no no, what the previous poster meant was the option "Texture Filtering - Quality" in the nvidia control panel. You can set the option to High Performance, Performance, Quality or High Quality. The default is option is quality.

    Edit:
    I thought GTASA supports widescreen, you can selected 1280 x 800 resolution in the game's option menu, and everything looks sharp and normal. I have no idea what you are talking about, perhaps a different GTA title...

    Edit2:
    I take back what I said, it seems like GTASA only support 4:3 and 16:9 natively, so 16:10 may cause some distortions.

     
  20. darkspark88

    darkspark88 Notebook Evangelist

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    It's blurry because the driver is more aggressive at AA.
    I've noticed some drivers made COD4 look more blurry than others, and some bad at eliminating aliased objects even when on the same setting in the Nvidia panel (Quality)
    It's the texture filtering you are complaining about. Find a driver that works. Image quality is subjective but drivers can make games look a lot different.
     
  21. X2P

    X2P COOLING | NBR Super Mod

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    Did that and I started artifacting like crazy with the start of any animation my notebook.

    Put old hard drive back in with same drivers as the new one had. 177.70 and it actually looks Far better, runs smooth, about 10 fps more to be exact. It appears its the new hard drive causing the issues but the question is why? Is it the windows install (already tried clean installing)? Is it the hard drive?

    I do notice firefox and other software having issues on the new drive vs old.
     
  22. ryane0840

    ryane0840 Notebook Consultant

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    dude get some glasses, your playing the same game as everyone else it looks the same and plays the same..if u dont like the look get the enbseries mod...i have a link and config in this forum page 2 now i think...
     
  23. X2P

    X2P COOLING | NBR Super Mod

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    THERE IS GRAPHICAL ISSUE LEARN TO READ PREVIOUS POSTS.

    When putting in old hard drive image quality is FAR greater and frame rate is easily a +10fps gain with same drivers, same set up. Therefore even after clean installing it is determined to be a hard drive issue.

    Framerates

    Game New HD Old HD

    GTA SA 15 61

    Carnage (racing) 10 32

    TF2 13 43

    NFS PS 8 46

    Bioshock ~7 50

    As you can clearly tell somthing is wrong.

    Are many users here too ignorant to read as of late? If plan to flame without reading please try and read. It has been growing the amount of users that dont read and post and end up looking dumb so avoid it and take your time.
     
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