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    ***CAN MY NOTEBOOK RUN IT?*** Read before posting ***All X vs Y Graphics Card comparisons here ***Read before posting***

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by crash, Oct 6, 2009.

  1. seeker_moc

    seeker_moc Notebook Virtuoso

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    I'm not really a FPS player, more an action or RPG one... That said, you should be able to play nearly all games at reasonable detail/resolutions. You can go here to check out common games and their speeds at various settings: ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5730 - Notebookcheck.net Tech

    So far, I've ran Bioshock, Dead Space (both kinda-FPSish), and Torchlight with max settings and 1600x900 resolution with 30+ framerates. I've also ran The Witcher, though I had to have to drop either to meduim settings, or to 1366x768 resolution, to avoid stuttering in large battles / city scenes with lots of people.

    I've only had this laptop for a bit over a month myself, before that I was a straight console gamer, as my last laptop was only a 8600 GS, couldn't run much of anything.
     
  2. Oemenia

    Oemenia Notebook Evangelist

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    How would my system run Civ V.

    Intel i3 330M @ 2.1ghz
    3gb RAM
    ATi HD5650 1gb

    Thanks in advance.
     
  3. City Pig

    City Pig Notebook Virtuoso

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    Most likely mid-high settings, but your CPU might hurt performance a bit in a game like that. It'll run fine, but not maxed out.
     
  4. bharatbharija

    bharatbharija Notebook Geek

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    CPU: i7 720
    GPU: ati 5470
    RAM:4gb
    Display (resolution):1366*768

    I would like to know about gta iv and call of duty modern warfare... also can you suggest me a war game that will run good on my system...
    thanks in advance
     
  5. seeker_moc

    seeker_moc Notebook Virtuoso

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    The 5470 is way underpowered compared to the i7, and isn't really much faster than integrated graphics.

    You're looking at low settings with MW2 and unplayable with GTA4.
     
  6. downskyward

    downskyward Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hey, wondering if my laptop could handle CoD4 on max.... thanks. And if not, what settings? Really don't care about it too much, as long as gameplay is smooth.

    CPU: Intel i3 350M (2.26 GHz)
    GPU: NVIDIA GeForce GT 325M w/1 GB DDR3
    RAM: 4 GB DDR3
    Display (resolution): 1366 x 768


    Oh, and what settings could I get away with if I was recording w/Fraps?

    Thanks.
     
  7. Oemenia

    Oemenia Notebook Evangelist

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    Thanks for the info, seeing the Quad Core recommendation made me think ill barely make low.
     
  8. Dheorl

    Dheorl Notebook Consultant

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    I want the laptop mainly for watching TV and editing photos from a DSLR as well as digital art so screen comes above gaming (as long as it can run EVE =) ). If theres a laptop for that price which can do both I'd love it.

    Is it possible to set the screen to run at a lower res whilst playing games and have higher settings? I think I'm more likely to see the difference between low-med graphics than I am turning down the res a bit.
     
  9. seeker_moc

    seeker_moc Notebook Virtuoso

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    Sure, you can run at lower res no problem. However, laptop LCDs tend to scale badly, and lower-than-native resolutions make things kind of fuzzy. Honestly, I'd turn down the details slightly before turning down the resolution, especially if you're looking for a major drop like from 1080 to 768. A drop to 900 might not look too bad though. It'd just be something you'll have to try out if you're set on the laptop. Play around with the detail settings until you find a combo that achieves playable framerates and looks best to you.
     
  10. Dheorl

    Dheorl Notebook Consultant

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    I appologise that this is going to deviate from the thread purpose, but I'll try and keep it brief...

    Am I likely to find a laptop with a better graphics card that can still do the arty stuff I want for the same price or not?

    If not I guess I'll have to put up with low settings on stuff.
     
  11. seeker_moc

    seeker_moc Notebook Virtuoso

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    If gaming is a concern for you, then you can find something better. If it's only a secondary concern, then just understand that you will have to make compromises. If you want a laptop recommendation, go to What Notebook Should I Buy? and let everybody know what exactly you're looking for, and someone will help you out.
     
  12. DonExodus92

    DonExodus92 Newbie

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    ---Edited---

    Ok.. im running on
    Acer Aspire 4745G-432G50

    with

    · Genuine Windows® 7 Home Premium 64-bit
    · Intel® Core i5-430M processor
    (3 MB L3 cache, 2.26GHz)
    · ATI Mobility Radeon™ HD 5470
    · 500GB HDD / 2GB DDR3 RAM

    will it be able to play Gears of War 1 and 2, Assassins Creed 1 and 2 , CoD4 MW and MW2 , the new Medal Of Honor(if available), DiRT 2 , Racedriver : Grid , Prince of Persia : The Forgotten Sand , LotRO and Crysis 1 and 2?

    Please state the Low, Med or High setting for each of these.... it will help.. Alot.. thank you.. :D

    ---Second Edit---

    And can it run the PS2 emulator? "PCSX2" or "PSCX2" what ever its called....
    if yes.. what would the frame rates be?
     
  13. DEagleson

    DEagleson Gamer extraordinaire

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    ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5730 running BF:BC2 at 1920x1080 in Dx9 at medium could be possible, but at the higher resolution you really need a HD 5850 or HD 5870 (Both GDDR5) to really keep the game smooth.
    At least the Intel i7 720QM should handle nicely.
     
  14. Amnesiac

    Amnesiac 404

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    The Studio XPS 16 (?) I assume, OP? You could do better for that price, and with that machine you'll have to watch out for throttling as well.
     
  15. Micaiah

    Micaiah Notebook Deity

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    Low graphic settings for everything. The 2GB RAM may bottleneck Crysis even further.

    Don't expect more than 15 FPS on PCSX2.
     
  16. seeker_moc

    seeker_moc Notebook Virtuoso

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    I've never had a problem running any game at mid or high settings (most on high) at native res and stock clocks. Plus the 5730 overclocks fairly well, get a bit over 10k 3dmark06 points when OCing, and just over 8k stock. However, I have the 1600x900 screen. The 1080p has 44% more pixels to drive, and that will push the 5730 a lot harder, so you may have issues on newer games. It's not a dedicated gaming laptop like a Clevo/Asus-G/Alienware, but for a all-around / multimedia laptop, it's more than capable of playing any current game.

    Also, the throttling problem is mostly gone with the 5730, though there a few who still have problems. And the price really isn't that high either, paid $1200 after taxes for mine (w/ 2 year at home warranty). Dell's MSRPs are insane, but they always have some kind of 10-15% off sale going on.

    Edit: If you're talking about the Lenovo Y560, stay away. I bought that one and returned it to get the XPS. The Y560 has the worst display I've ever seen on a laptop, utterly horrible.
     
  17. sean473

    sean473 Notebook Prophet

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    hmmm.. still better to pay 200-400 more Asus G73JH , JW or Asus G53JW...
     
  18. SomeRandomDude

    SomeRandomDude Notebook Evangelist

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    Jeez, I thought you would stop talking so much about the G73 after you got one... guess I was wrong.
     
  19. seeker_moc

    seeker_moc Notebook Virtuoso

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    Granted, the G73 great laptop, and would be much better if gaming is your only concern, but it is just too big/heavy/expensive for a lot of people :)
     
  20. musho3210

    musho3210 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Thinkpad T410

    · Genuine Windows® 7 Home Premium 64-bit
    · Intel® Core i5-540M processor
    (2.53GHz, 3MB L3, 1066MHz FSB)
    · Nvidia Quadro NVS-3100m 5
    · 128GB SSD
    2GB DDR3 RAM (will upgrade to 2x2GB DDR3 when I have the $)

    I only want one or two games to run on this comp (not a dedicated gaming computer). Here are some I have in mind:
    Sims 3, Crysis, Fallout 3, Oblivion, Starcraft 2, Red Alert 3, Dragon Age Origins, and/or Tiberium War

    What could I do low/medium/(but I doubt it)high?
     
  21. seeker_moc

    seeker_moc Notebook Virtuoso

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    The quadro 3100m is the same as the consumer 210m, and is quite slow.

    Sims 3: med
    everything else you listed: low
    some of the more demanding new games: not at all
     
  22. musho3210

    musho3210 Notebook Enthusiast

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    That's understandable. Thank you!
     
  23. Potential

    Potential Newbie

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    What can this play and how well?

    1 317-5251 Intel Core i3-370M (2.4GHz, 3M/4 threads)
    1 317-3626 4GB Shared Dual Channel DDR3 at 1066MHz
    1 320-8790 14.0 inch High Definition (720p) LED Display
    1 320-8826 ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5450 1GB
    1 342-0529 500GB 7200 RPM SATA Hard Disk Drive
     
  24. Tyo

    Tyo Notebook Deity

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    Hmm, I'm grabbin Asus n71jq for my brother in law and it has the ati 5730 you mentioned, 1600x900 resolution that seeker_moc has, 2 year global warranty, can be bought in Costco, with their awsome return policy, basically worry free.
    I think 1080 screen is a bit too much to game on with medium gpu's, I think you need high end gpu's to drive 1080 resolution or you need to lower it down to make things smoother.

    http://www.costco.com/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=11534224&whse=BC&Ne=5000001+4000000&eCat=BC|84|90366|56670&N=4045269%204294900030&Mo=4&pos=3&No=1&Nr=P_CatalogName:BC&Ns=P_Price|1||P_SignDesc1&lang=en-US&Sp=C&ec=BC-EC5-Cat84&topnav=
     
  25. moviemarketing

    moviemarketing Milk Drinker

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    I've been able to overclock the 5830 to around 550/1150 MHz and avg at least around 45-70FPS for most recent demanding games in 1920x1080, all detail settings maxed, often much higher frame rates.

    Is the 5730 pretty close to the 5830, or is it based on a different die? I think the 5830, 5850 and 5870 are all based on the same die as the desktop 5770.
     
  26. seeker_moc

    seeker_moc Notebook Virtuoso

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    Different die. The 5650m, and 5730m are the same, based on the desktop 5570, so one step lower than the 5830. Still the 5730 OCs higher than the stock 5830 speeds, but of course, the 5830 can clock even higher.
     
  27. DonExodus92

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    T.T oh.. damn... my machine sux.. T.T

    and 15FPS on PCSX2? wth.. T.T i was gonna play Digimon World 4.. T.T

    and everything is on low.. T.T grrr...

    can i upgrade my RAM then? if yes, what's the maximum RAM i can go with? :)
     
  28. DonExodus92

    DonExodus92 Newbie

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    i think urs the same as mine.. heh...
     
  29. City Pig

    City Pig Notebook Virtuoso

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    Just coming in here and asking what you can play is rather useless. You need to list some games you want to play.
     
  30. Tyo

    Tyo Notebook Deity

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    Lol, that's kind of funny, that's like asking, "I got a Toyota Highlander, where can I drive this and how fast can I get there ?" :D
     
  31. Micaiah

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    Your laptop's chipset supports 8 GB maximum, but unless you're doing heavy duty photoshop or video editing, 4 GB will be sufficient. Note that upgrading the RAM may help in memory hog games like Crysis, but may not make any difference for anything else.
     
  32. tijo

    tijo Sacred Blame

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    Yep, your GPU will be the bottleneck in pretty much every gaming scenario. Extra RAM can still be useful though.
     
  33. Gloomy

    Gloomy Notebook Evangelist

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    I can max out BF:BC2 no problem on my SXPS16, DX11 even. I have to OC to do it... but yeah.

    I don't think you'll have much problem running current gen games on the 5730. That'll change in like 9-12 months though.
     
  34. DonExodus92

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    im not just doing photoshop.. im doing a 3D rendering and more...

    so would it make any difference in PCSX2?

    anyway... i checked back on my laptop.. sry.. it was HD 5670...

    so does it still play on low settings? i mean the games that i listed...
     
  35. IsabelleJ

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    Hi!

    I'm umming and ahhing between buying myself an Asus G51jx or going for a laptop with a less good spec. The ones I am looking at are:

    Sony Vaio VPC-F12M0E/B17
    Intel Core i7-740QM
    4 GB RAM
    Nvidia Geforce GT330M
    Screen res 1920 x 1080

    HP Envy 14
    Intel® Core™ i5-450M
    4 GB RAM
    ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5650
    Screen res 1366 x 768

    Will either of these run Final Fantasy 14 decently? A big reason for upgrading would be to run that game, so if they don't run it well there is no point! I don't mind not having the graphics on high, but at the same time I don't want to have to play on the lowest setting either. I know that the Envy's GPU is underclocked and I don't intend to overclock at all.

    Thanks a lot!

    Isabelle
     
  36. mew1838

    mew1838 Team Teal

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    Damn, sean is still out doing full-force marketing for the G73....
     
  37. Gloomy

    Gloomy Notebook Evangelist

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    I don't know how to give you that proof. Lol. You'll see when you get it. The 5730 overclocks really well.
     
  38. Hahutzy

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    Is there even a competition? Or is the Ion 2 underestimated by me?
     
  39. bks1987

    bks1987 Notebook Evangelist

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    Never heard of Ion 2. Is that for netbooks or something? Well, I don't know that much about graphics cards...
     
  40. Kevin

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    Ion 2 is so far below the 335M, it's hard to put it into words.

    In some cases, ION 2 is slower than ION 1.
     
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    It is an unfair comparison.Yes the GT335m is better but they are made for different uses and different notebook categories.
     
  42. jeffreybaks

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    I did see yesterday though that the lenovo Y460 is changing its video card from atis 5650 to nvidias new 425m. What kinda performance differance are we going to see between those two? Ati's 5650 is one of my favorite video cards of all time. Stays so cool in them 13-14 inch laptops.
     
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    CPU: Intel Core i3 M350 2.27GHz (4CPUs)
    GPU: ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5650
    RAM: 4096MB
    DISPLAY: 1600x900
    OK! I just bought a new Acer laptop to play FINAL FANTASY XIV. The benchmark crashes and this is because (I am to understand from research) that my vga driver is outdated (version 8.62/new version out is 10.7). I am wondering if anyone knows if I will be able to play the game? I have a new Acer Aspire 7741G-5877 specs are i3 processor Radeon 5650 outdated version graphics card! Please, before anyone tells me I need to download drivers from AMD or Acer know that AMD said DO NOT TRY AND INSTALL DRIVERS FOR LAPTOPS FROM THEIR SITE. and Acer does not have a timeline on when 10.7 will be available from their site..AKA: ALL NEW ACER LAPTOPS HAVE OUTDATED VGA CARDS!!!
     
  44. g rome22

    g rome22 Notebook Enthusiast

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    oh the minimum system requirements however are here:
    FINAL FANTASY XIV
    let it load and then scroll down. I bought this laptop because of the exceeding specs expecting it to run the game great! Does anyone know if the benchmark error means I will be unable to play the game as well?
     
  45. masterchef341

    masterchef341 The guy from The Notebook

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    situation: mid sized laptops vs netbooks!

    question: is the netbook more powerful?

    answer: no.

    the ion platform is all about battery life. the graphics card is based on the geforce 210m.
     
  46. rippeer

    rippeer Notebook Evangelist

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    How about a screenshot from said game with fraps running? Or a frame rate log?
     
  47. seeker_moc

    seeker_moc Notebook Virtuoso

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    This causes alot of confusion, but the Catalyst Control Center version numbers and the driver numbers are not the same. Catalyst 10.8 contains drivers version 8.762. Your drivers aren't the newest (10.6 maybe), but they're not nearly as old as you think.

    That said, just go ahead and install the drivers from the AMD website. They recommend that you try the manufacturer's drivers first, but unless you have switchable graphics, there's nothing wrong in installing the generic drivers.
     
  48. sean473

    sean473 Notebook Prophet

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    to be frank , the G73 isn't that heavy if ur going from carrying a DV5t.. anyways , if you don't want to carry too much , a G53JW is still light and performs as well as G73JW..
     
  49. sean473

    sean473 Notebook Prophet

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    GT335M>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Ion 2..

    That answers it but u really can't compare the 2.. the areas which they're meant for are just different.
     
  50. DEagleson

    DEagleson Gamer extraordinaire

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    Nvidia Ion 2: Nvidia's GPU solution for 1080p playback on the Intel Atom netbooks.
    Nvidia Geforce GT 335m: GPU designed for notebook usage

    (Offtopic)
    sean473's ATI HD 5870 = ATI's monster that eats both of the GPUs as snacks. ;p
     
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