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    ***CAN MY NOTEBOOK RUN IT?*** Read before posting ***All X vs Y Graphics Card comparisons here ***Read before posting***

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by crash, Oct 6, 2009.

  1. Gloomy

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    I'd say that it's fine even up to 1600x900.
     
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    It can run at low, but honestly that is a very weak machine.

    Newegg.com - Recertified: ASUS X83Vm-X2 NoteBook Intel Core 2 Duo P7450(2.13GHz) 14.1" Wide XGA 4GB Memory 320GB HDD DVD Super Multi NVIDIA GeForce 9600M GS

    That's the best laptop I could find in your price range.
     
  5. bks1987

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    How well can my laptop run BFBC2:

    Intel Core i5-450M
    4GB RAM
    Windows 7 64 bit
    ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5870 1GB VRAM

    I am asking in terms of graphics settings. Thanks!
     
  6. seeker_moc

    seeker_moc Notebook Virtuoso

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    The 5870 can run anything (for now) on high.
     
  7. Jameson444

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    So the CYRI by system requirements lab doesn't have the game RISEN on their list. I was just wondering if my new laptop will run this game possibly on low settings. SC2 runs perfect on low. Here are the specs:

    Processor AMD Athlon(tm) II P320 Dual-Core Processor, 2.1 Ghz, 2 Core(s),
    RAM 3GB DDR3
    Graphics AMD M880G with ATI mobility Radeon HD 4250
    Native res. 1366 x 768

    Thank you.
     
  8. City Pig

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    I doubt it. Isn't there a demo for it?
     
  9. Gloomy

    Gloomy Notebook Evangelist

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    Depends on how high your card can go with an overclock-- mine makes it up to 810/1100, but I have to use external cooling to game.
     
  10. classic77

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    I purposely purchased the lower res version of my 8690 because each pixel proportionally takes away from performance...honestly, you will not be able to max crysis, AC2, or GTA4 with a 5730 at 1080p (maybe medium settings), and you will get fuzziness at lower resolutions, although its not THAT bad....

    If gaming is important to you, I'd suggest lower res's as a rule...
     
  11. SomeRandomDude

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    1600x900 or something similar would be the best idea.
     
  12. Gloomy

    Gloomy Notebook Evangelist

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    I agree. For the record, I run Battlefield: Bad Company 2 at these settings:

    [WindowSettings]
    Width=1920
    Height=1080
    Fullscreen=true
    RefreshRate=60
    VSync=false
    [Sound]
    Quality=high
    VoipEnable=true
    SpeakerCount=0
    [Graphics]
    Effects=high
    Soldiers=high
    Vehicles=high
    Overgrowth=high
    Undergrowth=high
    StaticObjects=high
    Terrain=high
    Shadows=high
    Bloom=true
    HSAO=false
    MSAA=0
    Water=high
    MainQuality=custom
    Texture=high
    DxVersion=11
    Aniso=16
    Detail=high
    RenderAheadLimit=2
    Fov=59.000004

    And get 30-50 fps depending on how much grass and crap is onscreen. IE, if I'm running through a forest, I get 29fps. Anywhere else and it's 35+. I turn to DX9 for serious play because smoke grenades make me run at 20fps...

    But Battlefield is pretty easy on the GPU imo
     
  13. seeker_moc

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    You'd be getting like 10-15 fps, not what I'd call playable. The 4250 doesn't even have dedicated vRAM. Pretty much the only thing that it can do is help with hardware decoding of HD video. Any new game is pretty much out of the question. SC2 is quite scalable on the low-end like Left for Dead, but besides those you're out of luck.
     
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    Ya I just bought this laptop for watching movies mostly and school so I wasn't too concerned about gaming (not to mention I have a gaming desktop that will run everything on high or ultra graphics). Thanks for your input though, it really helped.
     
  15. seeker_moc

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    I haven't had problems playing anything on high at 1600x900, but 1080p is a bit too much for some games on the 5730. You should be able to run at least meduim on anything though. You can also try overclocking. I go from 8k 3DMark06 points at stock to 10k OCd at 830/1105, which is 100% stable and without any external cooling.
     
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    Most intensive game ever on it? Hardly, I'd say one of the top is metro 2033 or Crysis engine. Anyways I don't minds some games on low settings, as long as it runs smooth, that's why I was asking. Sorry I'll just stick to the System Requirements Lab, at least there I don't get pointless feedback from people i don't know. Thank you again for the quick response though Seeker moc.
     
  17. Seanwhat

    Seanwhat Notebook Evangelist

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    I'm interested to know how this setup will perform with current games, and those within the next 2-3 years.

    Intel Core i5-540M
    Geforce GT 425M 1GB
    4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR3 RAM at 1066MHz
    15.6" 1600x900

    Thanks.
     
  18. Nick

    Nick Professor Carnista

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    It really depends on the detail settings. I can run MW2 in 1920x1200(1200p) on my Nvidia 9600m GT(roughly half as fast as the HD 5730), but my detail settings where on low.
     
  19. Przn4lif3

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    Your i5 will do for now and a year from now; however, future releases will most likely begin to use quad core processors, meaning you may not get the smoothest performance on games that come out later on.

    The card is currently a pretty big bottleneck. You can run most modern games at low-medium on native res, and maybe high on some games like resident evil 5.

    Your ram should suffice for now, but since your going to keep the laptop around for a few years I would look into getting at least 6 gigs of ram in order to be safe.
     
  20. seeker_moc

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    No problem, glad I could help.

    The 425m is right in the middle of the current mid-range. I'd consider it a gaming capable GPU, but just barely. You should be able to play all older games on high, and most current games on medium at native res, and possibly high if you drop res to 1366x768. It probably won't scale too well into the future though, should be obsolete within 2 years.
     
  21. Seanwhat

    Seanwhat Notebook Evangelist

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    ah ok thanks. what card would you guys recommend i upgrade to? power consumption is important to me and i also require the card to be nvidia and i'm not sure if it can be any bigger.

    How much more would it cost me?
     
  22. seeker_moc

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    I usually prefer Nvidia as well, but for now I'd argue that the ATI chips have better power consumption, and performance per watt. If you insist on Nvidia get one with switchable graphics, then it won't matter as much how much power the chip uses.

    If you don't want switchable graphics, then the 445 is probably your best bet for performance vs power, but I don't think any laptops have come out yet that use it. If you don't mind losing DX11 you could try the 350M. Though I'd highly recommend the 5730 (Dell XPS 16 or ASUS N61Jq) or 5830 (HP Envy 15) as better alternatives for high performance vs acceptable power consumption (that was my main concern as well when getting my laptop, plus I really didn't want a 17.3", which eliminates nearly all of the 'gaming' GPUs).

    What size / model were you looking at with the 425 anyway?
     
  23. Seanwhat

    Seanwhat Notebook Evangelist

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    it was the kobalt gs510. they recently upgraded the model to include the 425, but all i've been hearing about it is bad things. the laptop looks tiny which is why i was worried about the size, but i also noticed it already has switchable graphics which is good.

    they don't offer a gpu upgrade as standard, but apparently they're good guys and they'll customise further if you email them. should i try and get a 445 then, and if i did how much would this raise my gaming potential?
     
  24. seeker_moc

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    Kobalt is a notebook barebone reseller, not a notebook manufacturer, so they can't just upgrade the GPU which is soldered directly on the motherboard that comes from the actual manufacturer. CPU, RAM, HDD, etc can all be upgraded, but not a GPU.

    The GS510 is a 15.6"er, so it's average sized, not particularly small. Kobalt also offers a 15.6" Clevo (W860) laptop with a 460M, which is way more powerful, but it doesn't offer switchable graphics, so it may have too much power draw for you.
     
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    *EDIT*

    Made a post instead of a thread.
     
  26. seeker_moc

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    No, you made a thread, but it was moved here because this is the correct place for your question.
     
  27. moorcat

    moorcat Notebook Enthusiast

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    Looking at these two laptops:

    Amazon.com: Toshiba Qosmio X505-Q885 TruBrite 18.4-Inch Laptop (Black/Red): Gateway

    and

    Amazon.com: Toshiba Qosmio X505-Q893 TruBrite 18.4-Inch Laptop (Black): Gateway

    The only real difference I see is the upgrade from the GTS360m to the GTX460m. The price difference is $999 for the 360 and $1299 for the 460. Is the upgrade to the 460m worth the $300?

    I am usually an MMO gamer. WoW, FFXIV, games of the sort.

    If I fork out the 300 bones, will I see a noticeable difference? Or can the 360m run what I want to run?
     
  28. City Pig

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    FFXIV is a very demanding game, and you might want the best card you can get for it. The GTX 460M will blow away the GTS 360M. While it won't matter much in WoW, it will make a huge difference in FFXIV. If you're going to play that a lot and you can afford it, I'd go with the GTX 460M.
     
  29. Syberia

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    Part of the reason 800x600 looks so bad is because you're trying to display a 4x3 aspect ratio on a 16x9 screen, so it's being stretched horizontally. If you run at 1366x768 with anti-aliasing on, it should look ok.
     
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    As mentioned before, use a calculator to get the screen ratio. First number divided by second number works fine.
     
  31. Kevin

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    The proper res, from 1280x800, would be 1024x640.

    To answer, 720p is a long way from 1080p, and will not look very nice that far from native res.

    1080p gaming is a pipe dream with that GPU. It just doesn't have the juice required for modern games. Heck, my GPU is getting long in the tooth at 1680x1050, and the 5730 doesn't compare to it.
     
  32. seeker_moc

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    I run everything on high at 1600*900 and it works just fine with the 5730, but 900p is my native res. It will still look ok for you, and much better than 720p.
     
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    speaking of the ati mobilty radeon hd 4650,i just got off chat with dell,anything video related plays back fuzzy and he updated to this version,but did not slove the issue,but wants to replace the dvd drive,how could this solve a play back issue?
     
  34. ..::~GaMeR~::..

    ..::~GaMeR~::.. Newbie

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    hi guyz

    i need a lill help here..

    i have

    processor - intel(R) core(tm)2 e7500 @ 2.93ghz
    ram - 2gb (2.93 ghz)
    system type - 32 bit operating system
    installed os - windows service pack 3 (edited to Vienna edition)
    graphics card - intel(R) GMA 3100

    i m trying to play devil may cry 3 game

    game installed correctly.. but when i click on the exe file..
    exe runs bt after 2 seconds it shows msg to send an error report to microsoft..
    which have option to send the errro report or not to send..

    what can i do to run this game ?? asking for help here..
     
  35. seeker_moc

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    The intel integrated graphics likely can't even run the program. You could try upgrading to the newest Intel video drivers, but I can't promise that will do anything. If you want to game, you need to get a dedicated GPU.
     
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    The game - StarCraft II, BFBC2

    The Spec:
    CPU - Core i7 720QM 1.6Ghz, 6MB L3 cache
    RAM - 4GB
    GPU - ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5650
    Screen Resolution - 1600x900


    Also, is it possible for me to squeeze some more performance out of this thing via overclocking (CPU and/or GPU)? Thank you :D

    Forgot to mention that the screen is 17"
     
  37. Gloomy

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    This game runs excellently on Radeon cards. On my 5730, stock clocks, it's playable up to medium-low settings and 1080p if you force it to run in DirectX 9 mode. At 1600x900 you can probably go all the way to high! No AA of course, I find that on a small laptop display it doesn't make that big a difference, but you may be able to squeeze in a bit by lowering settings here and there. HBAO is always off for me since I find the performance hit to be huge for a barely noticeable graphical change. Bloom is up to you-- it makes everything much prettier, but gets in the way sometimes (you know how, in real life, if you're looking from a well lighted position into a place with little lighting, it's harder to focus your eyes? That doesn't help you find the guy standing in the shadows with an RPG-7... :( )

    You should be able to at least match a stock 5730 by overclocking-- a little better, actually. They're the same chip, but sadly the 5650 is almost always undervolted and so the ceiling for overclocking on it is artificially low compared to what is possible on a 5730.
     
  38. bchreng

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    Not sure about overclocking, but at those specs, you can run SC2 pretty decently at low-to-medium settings at 1600x900. Frames will dip to around 30 to 40 depending on the map and how many units are on the screen at once. At least that's how it is on my system, which is really similar to yours.
     
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    Hello guys,

    I'm new and not very tech savy when it comes to laptops or computers for that matter. I love playing games and want a computer that I can use for college and gaming, one of the games I want to play with my laptop is DC universe online, and the occasional starcraft 2 battle. I'm mainly going to use it for school and DC universe online which comes out Nov. 1st.

    I was originally going to buy an Alienware, but the price was too much for my range. After weeks of searching for laptops (with a friend who claims to know his stuff) we found a good laptop, on sale and a coupon for $300 off.

    What do you guys think, HP pavilion:

    Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
    • System Recovery DVD with Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
    • Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-720QM Quad Core processor (1.6GHz, 6MB L3 Cache) with Turbo Boost up to 2.8 GHz
    • 1GB ATI Mobility Radeon(TM) HD 5650 [HDMI, VGA] - For Quad Core Processors
    • FREE Upgrade to 6GB DDR3 System Memory (2 Dimm)
    • FREE Upgrade to 640GB 7200RPM Dual Hard Drive (320GB x 2) with HP ProtectSmart Hard Drive Protection
    • Microsoft(R) Office Starter 2010
    • No additional security software
    • 50% OFF! One 6 Cell (standard) and One 9 Cell (over-sized) Lithium Ion Battery
    • 17.3" diagonal HD+ High-Definition HP LED BrightView Widescreen Display (1600 x 900)
    • SuperMulti 8X DVD+/-R/RW with Double Layer Support
    • HP TrueVision Webcam and Fingerprint Reader
    • Intel Wireless-N Card
    • Standard Keyboard
    • HP Home & Home Office Store in-box envelope

    I ordered it Monday and HP estimates an October 8th ship date. I can still return it when I receive it. I paid a total of $1068 after rebates, sale and coupons, with 2 year accidental damage and LoJack. Good buy?

    Thank you for your help in advance.
     
  40. Gloomy

    Gloomy Notebook Evangelist

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    I think the specs are excellent! My only concern is that 17 inches is a tad big. It's gonna get annoying humping it around campus.

    I would have gone for a 14-incher.
     
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    Intel i3 330M
    3gb RAM
    ATi 5650
    Windows 7

    How would STALKER Clear Sky with Complete Mod run? STALKER SoC with Complete Mod runs at about 30-40 FPS on Highest settings at 1280x720, no AA.
     
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    Can my latptop run NBA 2k11 the one with Michael Jordan smoothly?

    I have a Toshiba M645-S4055

    Specs:
    I5-450m
    4gb ram
    Hitachi 7k500 500gb 7200rpm hard drive
    Nvidia 330m Optimus Technology
    Windows 7 Home Premium
     
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    Thank you for the response Gloomy, I'm glad my friend guided me in the right direction. I thought about the 17 inch also, but I'm sure I can get used to it :D
     
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    Hey guys, was wondering how well Fallout 3 would run on my laptop. Specs are below:

    GPU: ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4500
    CPU: P8600 @ 2.4GHz
    RAM: 4.00 GB
    Native Res: 1366x768

    I checked on systemrequirementslab.com and it's telling me my graphics card is holding me back (probably knew that already). I'm not looking to max out the settings AT ALL. I usually have things at low-medium specs across all my games. Just thought I'd ask if there were any significant frame rate issues even on low specs with my card. Thank you!
     
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    I just got a new Asus g73jh, and I was wondering how well I could run the following games.

    Metro 2033
    Just Cause 2
    Amnesia: The Dark Descent
    TF2
    Mount and Blade:Warband
    The STALKER games
    The Witcher
    EVE: Onine

    .
     
  46. City Pig

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    You need to post the specs...
     
  47. Echer123

    Echer123 Notebook Enthusiast

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    I would think a quick google search would suffice, but okay.

    GPU: ATI HD 5870
    CPU: Intel Core i7
    RAM: 6GB
    HDD: 640gb
     
  48. seeker_moc

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    A quick Google search would also suffice to answer your question... It's not very polite to say something like that to someone who's trying to help you out.

    Anyway, the 5870 will smoke every game you listed on high settings. It should also play every game except Metro 2033 or Crysis on ultra settings.
     
  49. ton247

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    Good deal, thanks!
     
  50. Harleyquin07

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    You should max out the Witcher, EVE online and the older stalker games on your laptop (the one with the 5870m if I'm not mistaken).
     
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