this is just for the people who were asking about it on steam around the forums today i noticed that it is coming "november 2008" guess we have to wait and see this is good news though so if you wanted it on STEAM just wait it's coming![]()
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Red_Dragon Notebook Nobel Laureate
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Good catch.
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Red_Dragon Notebook Nobel Laureate
thanks!
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well its finally on the front page lol
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how much will it cost?
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it's the full $50 LOL COD4 still costs $50....what the hell?
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Ah welcome to the world of Steam, where if you want a game you will pay top dollar for it...
Guess the DVD release of the game won't be happening anytime soon, otherwise Steam profits might take a nose dive, you can bet your last dollar a DVD will be cheaper... -
Yeah really...drop the price on COD4! That's ridiculous.
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Well, people keep buying, so they keep selling. They're business, not charity.
Not that there's a lack of promotional prices on there.
And I bet that the blame should rest on Activision's shoulders, not Steam. -
indeed.
no official release date yet tho right? Just a vauge "Coming November 2008" lol.
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So the blame for high prices lies firmly at Steams door.
And yeah they aint a charity but they have less overheads than a shop, they don't give you the box, printed manual etc., don't have postage costs, and yet they still charge more than it would cost to buy a DVD version of a game, and the prices are not universal worldwide, some territories get ripped off even more...
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Yes indeed. The whole reason people use Steam is because it's convenient and they can't be bothered to shop around. It's a case of too much money to spend, not enough brains if you ask me, that and it's "ooh look at me, I buy games on Steam, I'm at the cutting edge"...
I bought CoD, CoD UO and CoD2 on Steam, I am glad I was able to extract them all from Steam and uninstall the app, I have never used the online parts of the games, the only reason I bought them on Steam was to see what it was like, and I haven't gone back since, and that was only the summer of last year... -
I use it purely because its convenient.
Sorry you don't like steam, but is far easier than driving to a store, and removes the risk of losing your disc and or cd keys, and a lot of people, including myself think its a GREAT service, and I think its worth paying full price for a game that will always be available digitally till the end of time and not just until you lose/break/scratch your disk/cdkey etc. and have to buy it again. Plus its nice being able to quickly download steam, if I go somewhere, and have all my games available without lugging all the CD's with me.
So please, don't be a hypocrite and act all superior because you do "shop around" and because you tried steam and "haven't gone back since." -
It's certainly convenient but convenience doesn't justify a two fold price increase. I can get COD4 for PC for $20-25 brand new if I shop around, but Steam offers it for $50 for "convenience"? Great deal.
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@Garandhero - So let me get this right, you would rather pay $50 for CoD5 from Steam than say, probably quite a bit less for a DVD copy ordered from amazon just because it's convenient and you can be playing it the same day?
I'm sorry but that to me doesn't make sense, I don't see why people should be charged more just for convenience.
Yes my view may be cynical but it's born out of the fact that I see a lot of elitist attitudes to gaming and technology and the capitalist world we live in takes the urine a lot. And no I'm not a communist...
Also I wasn't aiming to offend you personally.
I agree with you on the point about lugging cds around or breaking them, but that's easily solved with making ISOs or using No CD patches.
And with a DVD copy you can be stuck in the middle of a jungle with no internet connection and still be able to install the game (well in most cases), can't say that about Steam though can you?...
Steam has a lot more downsides than it does upsides when you consider it in a financially sensible way, with a less "gimme gimme I want it yesterday" attitude. -
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guy i wanna make a bet....yes you heard me, even though they are too late, i bet by the end of decemeber/during december COD4 will fall to only $20 im sure if alot of us got together and complained they WOULD drop the price i have COD4 for ps3 and 360 lol its not the price that really the problem the problem to me is this, i can buy orange box for $30 on steam and bioshock for $19.99 why the hell do these two games combined cost the same as COD4? thats where its like what are they doing but like i said.....december.
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Well of course eventually it will drop in price...but the game's been out for a whole year now.
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Yep and Amazon have the collectors edition for $39 new or $31 like new, and it's probably even cheaper on Ebay...
http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B000TTDM48/ref=dp_olp_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1227124585&sr=8-11 -
i was just at best buy the other day and cod4 was still full price on the consoles. im not supprised that the steam version is still at full price.
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COD4 already was cheaper at one point in time on Steam. Of course they stand to make money from the fact that 5 just released- there are still people who haven't played 4- like myself. So I would be one of those people who would buy both, and be happy.
I bought Fallout 3 on Steam on the day it came out, and I spent 50 dollars on it and I downloaded it the same day and since then, I bought a new computer. Instead of worrying about keys, CD's, registrations, and wasted hard drive space, using no CD cracks and ISO's and all that BS and loading my PC up with crappy virtual drives for no reason, I use steam. And when I buy a non steam game, I can use steam for the non steam game too.
Plus, the great built in message and friend system. Since you don't play online and deem the community features worthless, I guess that's lost on you. But in any case, I find steam optimal and I don't have to go scrounging in the garbage pits of the internet for no CD keys and waste space with ISO's. Sorry, if this came out mean, just how I feel. -
I don't worry about wasted disk space or using no cd patches (cracks if you want to call them that). I just go to the site I know of, which is a reputable site and isn't in anyway dangerous as many people would think and dl the files I require in order to use my game without the disk.
It's a 30 second job at most and doesn't take up any more space than having the game installed via Steam would.
And a virtual drive takes up no more resources than Steam, in fact if anything Steam uses up more space and resources than no cd patches and virtual drives do.
And by not spending the inflated prices of Steam I save money that I can spend on storage for my ISOs if I need it.
It's the lack of understanding and education, with regards on what you can do and how difficult or "dangerous" it is, and pricing that has helped Steam become what it is today. If people took the time and effort to educate themselves on shopping around and how to solve minor issues like carrying a ton of disks with them Steam wouldn't have even been thought of.
I'm all for convenience, but not at an inflated price and not with the "you can't sell your game on" or "you have to use our app" type of restrictions put upon the user by Steam.
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There's no lack of understanding and education. If you don't like Steam then why did you bother to come in here other than to flame and tell everyone how dumb we all are for not wanting to do something illegal (If the developers wanted me to not have to use a CD, they would've made the game that way) and how you are so much better than us for saving all your money?
On topic, can't wait to give steam 100 bucks for COD4 and 5, since I haven't played either, it'll be worth it. -
I'm not flaming anyone, not intentionally at least. I am merely trying to point out that Steam is vastly overrated and overpriced and there are far better and more economical ways of doing things.
And why give Steam $100 for 2 games, when if you go elsewhere you can get more than 2 games for $100? Or is that not "worth it"?
As Red_Dragon pointed out Orange Box and Bioshock are two games for the price of 1, the 1 being CoD4. Sorry but CoD4 doesn't seem "worth it" to me.
From a purely pricing side of things Steam is the wrong side of "worth it" and online gaming isn't only restricted to Steam, most games on DVD still have an online component and allow access to online servers, and Steams online servers are no more superior than any other server.
And as I understand it the use of no cd patches is not illegal, unless you don't own an original bought and paid for copy of the game, this is the reason it is percieved as illegal, because they are used for piracy, something which I don't advocate, just in case you mention it. -
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Yeah well I was trying to point out that with a DVD copy of a game you don't need an internet connection to install it, in most cases. And who knows where you might be gaming....
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Fair dos we have different points of view. It's what a debate is about isn't it?
And of course they're gonna tell you to buy another copy of the game. They aren't stupid, if they can make more money out of you, whether losing the original copy was your fault or not they will. And if no cd patches are illegal, and not just illegal because it's against some EULA (which if we really wanted to nit pick probably infringe on our rights and are therefore illegal themselves) then the law needs looking at again and revising.
I don't see why, just because some company says that I can't use a no cd patch to play a game I have paid for because it's against their EULA that I shouldn't. And if anyone ever looks at my system then they'll get a shock, there is not one game on it that I have not paid for and for all of them I do not use the disks, aside from the initial installation, so sue me!
It boils down to companies grabbing every $ they can, basic greed. And so I go back to my comment about the capitalist world we live in taking the biscuit...
And yeah great Steam is good in that way, you won't ever need to buy the game again, and if your in the habit of misplacing disks or you do end up having your computer stolen then ok it's a good feature but why should it come at a premium? -
I just paid around 70$ (with VAT) for COD5 on Steam ... and it is still more convenient than chase the game on ebay or amazon for 5$ or 10$ less than Steam price.
Steam will release also GTA IV on 3rd of December ... imagine how convenient will be to download the game and play it in 2-3 hours after release and not spend hours in a que in front of some store waiting to buy your hard copy just because it is 15$ less -
By the way, quick question - say I have a game that I bought at a store and it also happens to be sold on Steam (ie COD4). Could I somehow load that game into Steam and not use the disc anymore?
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Of course Steam makes buying a game so simple that it made me buy much more games than I used to, dirty bastiges they are.
Also, I don't have to wait for launch dates on my country. Or discover in what store a game is available. Or deal with shipping. Or degraded media. I think that's a lot of pluses.
But whatever rocks your boat. I'll keep my buying habits and you, yours. In the end, we are all gaming, that's what counts. -
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got it on steam last night 50 buck.. wahooo! didn't have time to play much tho.. Cool intro though!
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oo linkage!
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cod 5!!!! already have cod4
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so what do you think? Are the graphics greatly improved?
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Well Like i said I didn't get far before I went to bed, havent been home yet to play more.
But I got to the ambush part of the first level and ya it looks pretty awesome so far. Thought the facial features looked better for sure.. More blood splatter tooo yea!! lol -
How is it compared to COD4? I've been playing that for a little bit now, Wasn't a big fan at first but it's starting to grow on me. Counter Strike Source is the only game I have been able to play for about 3-4 years now and still completely enjoy it.
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Steam is not always expensive. I got the ENTIRE counter strike series for $15!!! That's cheaper than CS:S costs in stores...
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a bit off topic but i wonder if there is any chance games live elder scrolls oblivion will ever come out? Because fallout 3 came out but theres no elder scrolls im a huge gamer but sadly i skippped oblivion!! if not ill just buy the boxed game.
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Just to jump back into that issue up above: Where are people finding COD4 cheaper at retail compared to Steam? Amazon sells it for 47 dollars. Ok, so Steam costs 3 dollars more, that could count for shipping, right?
Steam GENERALLY has great prices here in the US (I hear it can be horrible in Europe and Australia, but that is a publisher issue), when I got COD4, they were having one of those weekend deals for like 25% off.
Online distribution is the future, for all media. If it isn't Steam, it is GOG or Impulse. If it isn't them, it will be iTunes. -
I don't ever want iTunes to sell me a game.
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hmmmm COD4 went back to $50 amazon has some weird pricing.
COD5 coming to steam
Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by Red_Dragon, Nov 13, 2008.