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    Can my laptop handle this game?

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by cjbeech, Jul 1, 2015.

  1. cjbeech

    cjbeech Notebook Guru

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    Hi everyone

    I have an Acer Aspire V3-571
    Intel core i7-3632QM
    8GB RAM
    Intel HD Graphics 4000, up to 1760MB dynamic Video Memory

    I want to download Call of Duty: World at War from Steam, and then download and play custom zombie maps. The system requirements for the game are as follows:
    • Processor: Pentium 4 @ 3 GHz/AMD 64 3200+
    • Memory:512 MB (1 GB for Vista)
    • Hard Drive:8 GB Free c
    • Sound: on-board or better
    • Graphics Card:256 MB (nVidia GeForce 6600/ATI Radeon X1600)
    Note: I'll be playing at 1366x768 or lower

    So how does Intel HD Graphics 4000 stack up against nVidia GeForce 6600/ATI Radeon X1600? Will I suffer lower frame rates or anything like that?

    Also, will I be able to plug in my Xbox controller and use that? Sorry if this is a stupid question!

    Thanks
     
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  2. King of Interns

    King of Interns Simply a laptop enthusiast

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    Should work at lowest settings possible and lowest resolution
     
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    TBoneSan Laptop Fiend

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    Touch and go. I think you might be able to get away with it at 720p and mostly low settings. It might not be what you expect though. The HD4000 is the onboard graphics on your CPU and isn't very fun for gaming - tbh it kinda sucks for gaming. But, you can make do with it if you have no choice - as long as you're playing older games or newer undemanding indies.
     
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    Your system will run Call of Duty: World at War just fine at medium settings, and possibly high settings. According to Notebook Check, Intel 4000 graphics can run Call of Duty: Modern Warfare at medium settings, and that's a newer game than the one you're looking to play. It can even run the much newer Call of Duty: Ghosts at low settings. Basically, your computer can handle the game well.

    I doubt that you could use your Xbox controller to play it, thogh.
     
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    Galm "Stand By, We're Analyzing The Situation!"

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    I have experience running it with that lol. It will work, but you need to drop down to lowest resolution, and lowest everything. However, your framerate still probably won't be fantastic.

    And yes you can use your peasant xbox controller as long as you can plug it in to your computer, there is a console command to use a controller. The command is exec default_controller.cfg I believe, although you may want to double check.
     
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  7. cjbeech

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    Thanks for the benchmarks, is it higher or lower the better haha?
     
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    jeez, just upgrade already then you can enjoy the game at a higher graphical fidelity!
     
  9. cjbeech

    cjbeech Notebook Guru

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    Not all of us can just go out and buy a new laptop to play a PC game...
     
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    thegh0sts Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Then you better start saving buddy! and i mean it as you'll enjoy the game more when it looks nice at a high resolution with cool effects and visual fidelity at a higher fps.
     
  11. Galm

    Galm "Stand By, We're Analyzing The Situation!"

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    Hes not wrong, I loved the jump from integrated to an 880m.
     
  12. cjbeech

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    I basically never play PC games though! More of a console person (no hate please :) )

    Any other benefits (besides gaming) of upgrading graphics cards?
     
  13. cjbeech

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    Very rarely play PC games though! Any other benefits of upgrading graphics cards?
     
  14. thegh0sts

    thegh0sts Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    you don't have to get a super high-end pc, even a laptop with a 960m or an 860m, or even a 780m should suffice for that game as that game is so old.

    also, you can use the PC for other things like...um...email, word processing so it's multipurpose.
     
  15. Galm

    Galm "Stand By, We're Analyzing The Situation!"

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    Why are you on console? Besides exclusives there is really not much they have to offer. Trust me I was a console player for years. Once I switched to pc, it was torturous to play on an xbox. Things like custom zombies are available only on pc, and there are plenty of other games with awesome modding scenes like that. Especially games like Skyrim, Minecraft, and Terraria are so inferior on the console. If your into space, you should check out Star Citizen. Lol now I'm just ranting, but if come over to the PC gaming world, I'm pretty sure you'll get hooked. The only valid reason I can think of is if all of your friends play on console, but then you just need to convert them ;) Also no hate, those people are jerks. Most console gamers have just never been exposed to PC gaming.
     
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  16. cjbeech

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    But is there really much benefit of a better graphics card for email and world processing?
     
  17. thegh0sts

    thegh0sts Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    you don't have to use the GPU 100% of the time but at least it's there when you want to use it. for the most part the intel GPU is enough for word processing while a 860m or a 960m is available for games.
     
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    Yeah that's true, mods on PC look a lot of fun! And that's why I'm on console, all my friends have always been console people.

    I do want to upgrade my laptop soon but I'm on a budget. What are the i5/i7 U processors like for low/medium end gaming (with something like a AMD Radeon R7 2GB)? And would the i5/i7 M processors be much better? Or is it more about graphics cards? Sorry, I've never really looked at PC gaming!
     
  19. Galm

    Galm "Stand By, We're Analyzing The Situation!"

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    Well a couple things. If you want to game cheaply, desktops are way cheaper. As for laptops, the U series processors are ok for lower end machines, but for higher end games your gonna want a quad core i7. It doesn't really matter which one, as they all have enough power. What's your budget? I can help you more if I know what you can spend. A lot of people will have like a 1000 dollar budget, and then buy some stupid thing with an i5 or i7 u with integrated graphics, when you could pick up a Clevo with an i7 HQ and like a 960m or higher gpu.

    That specific example you gave would have decent performance on a lot of games, but not the newest ones. As an estimate I would say the Sager NP8651 starts around $1220. It comes with a killer 970m and an i7 4720HQ. With no upgrades its totally fine, but you can spend more if you want, although if you don't have free access to Windows 8 that'l cost you 80 bucks.

    However, a desktop computer is massively more powerful. A 1200 desktop would be absolutely killer. You could run games at max at like 1440p.
     
  20. hfm

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    OMG.. it's obvious the guy just wants to know if the 4000 will actually work or not before he spends money on the game.
     
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  21. cjbeech

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    I would like to know this, yes :)
     
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    Galm "Stand By, We're Analyzing The Situation!"

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    I already answered that question clearly above...
     
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    hfm Notebook Prophet

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    I know I saw it, but then there's a cavalcade of people telling him to spend money on a laptop.. it doesn't make much sense.

    EDIT: Bah.. ignore me, I'm just being a sourpuss for some reason.. :)
     
  24. Galm

    Galm "Stand By, We're Analyzing The Situation!"

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    It'll work look at what I wrote on the first page. It just won't work that well, but you can play on it.
     
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    My budget would be about £700-£800 (absolute max), but gaming really wouldn't be my priority. Mostly it would be used for productivity (heavy web browsing/research, multiple Word/Excel/Powerpoint documents open at the same time and Netflix to chill. Typically on for 16 hours a day, every day, but not to bothered about battery life. Mostly, I want it to last me 2+ years (fed up of spending hundreds of ££ on laptops just to replace them after a couple of years).
     
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    Oh yeah, thanks! And thanks for the extra info about the Xbox controller command.
     
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    I just went for it and brought the game, now I get this message when I try to open it:

    couldn't load image '~fx_shell_spc-rgb&fx_shell_cos-I-11'

    :( What's going on??
     
  28. Galm

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    So a powerful cpu will directly correlate with the ability to "last a long time" A quadcore would feel faster for longer. Also your budget is around 1250 USD, so you should be able to get like a Clevo P650SE in that range or an N150SD, and both of those are great laptops especially the first one, but I'm not sure how prices for them are in England.
     
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    so it's an extra £30 for an i7 - i don't think that's too bad. oh, i am going by the VAT included price.
     
  32. djembe

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    You may need to download a patch for the game.
     
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    Wow people are overexaggering how bad the Intel IGP is running a old COD game from 2008. :rolleyes:

    First of all most COD games especially the older ones are far less demanding compared to games like Crysis.

    Download COD4 demo and see how it runs with your laptop before buying COD: WOW, since it uses that same game engine with no optimizations.

    Overall you shouldnt have any problems running it.
     
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    real gamers don't play on the Intel GPU!
     
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    I downloaded it and it runs fine, albeit on low graphics. Admittedly, would be really cool to be playing with top graphics/frame rate.
     
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    Real gamers play on whatever they have to!
    I would shell out on that i7 tho...
     
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    This is borderline offensive to those that can´t get more powerful hardware.

    My brother is stripped for cash regarding computer hardware, I helped him configure a €350 desktop a couple of years back. He uses it to play on a hand-me-down 4:3 1024-monitor. He does it alot and he´s good at it. Is he less of a gamer than you?
     
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    I salute your bro!
     
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    Yeah you're right, the game runs well! Perfectly smooth on medium settings, very acceptable even on high settings.
     
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    ..pretty sure xbox controllers are sort of supported on PC now, if you install some MS driver package. I use it for scp-server to emulate my ps3 controller. Works well.

    :D ..anything with any amount of shaders and internal context resubmits do crash in some way sooner or later, or you get weird artefacts. And the display quality is horrendous. But 2d games work well enough, and most stuff will run, at least, if you turn the detail level down far enough.
     
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    Glad to hear it man!

    Modern Intel IGPs are way over the minimum specs of COD: WOW, btw i forgot to say it has the same system requirements as COD4. IGPs are not good for modern games but they still can handle older games just fine as long they're not too demanding
     
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    Ouch. Here's a water bucket for that burn. :D

    [​IMG]
     
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    There was a time, back when I was still in school that I had no other option but to use the GMA 4500 in my very first laptop.

    Not everyone is lucky enough to be able to afford decent PC hardware. I'm fully aware of this coming from my humble PC gaming roots.
     
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    Same here but either with a NVIDIA IGP or a ATI IGP and i gotten used to it.

    This was doing the time that we couldnt find a laptop at a bestbuy or a officemax with a good dedicated GPU unless we buy it online from a manufacturer because laptops wasnt meant for gaming.
     
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    Cold =/= room temperature.
     
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    Woosh