Can we expect 4850 or 4870 in 15-inchers?

Or maybe even 14"? Just wondering whether it's worth it to get a gaming laptop now (G50VT-X1), since once the 4850 and 4870 become more common, they should generally cost less than nvidia cards...

 

100% sure it won't come in a 14 inch notebook. 75% chance of it not going into a 15 inch notebook. But they have 9800 GTS in 15 inch notebooks so who knows.

 

what the, it would come in 14 and not 15? sounds pretty weird

 

I'd love to see a 14.1" with a 4850 or 4870 but I suspect it's much more likely for 15.4" and up while the 4600 series would be in 14.1" models.

 

I'm just waiting for them to come out PERIOD, as well as the ATI XGP. I hope I can see one or both by the end of the year.

 

We need to find out the wattage of these cards to give accurate estimations.

Keep in mind that the desktop versions are power hungry mothers.

 

wow, haha you guys are discussing this and im still wondering how a 4670 will fit in a 14/13 inch cant wait though how does the 4650/4670 compare to the 3650 in performance?(yes im using desktop as a benchmark)

 

Yeah we can expect but that would mean a severely crippled version of the Desktop version.

 

yes i kno lol

 

4850's also run hot, and if not for the dual slot cooler on the 4870, it would be blazing as well. My HIS 4850 at 30% fan speed hit 90C in 3dmark06, if I keep my fans at 55% it stays around 70C. I don't know how they're going to shoehorn the card into a laptop, but if they do, it's a fantastic performer.

 

Doubt even a 4670 will run on the 14in. Im guessing the 4670 for 15in and 4850 and 4870 for 17in. The 4850X2 will be reserved for the real beasts (in size), eg. something as large as the np9262

 

There's already a 9600M GT in a 13,3", I have no doubts that a 4670 in a 14" is possible.

 

It's probably physically possible, but will it be efficient though?

The desktop version of those 2 ATI cards are power consuming and run very hot. Therefore, they probably needed to re-design and re-engineer them if they want to fit them in a notebook, even more so of a smaller notebook.

Given the current engineering of the desktop versions, it's hard to imagine something so power hungry and so warm to fit into anything so small and be viable without some kind of design sacrifice(ex: the 15.4" will be as big and heavy as the NP8660 if not more).

 

Whoa. Please, do post the link! I didn't know 9600M GT could fit in such a small laptop..! I still remember how an 8600M GS in a 13.3" laptop was "spectacular" already... Ah, how time flies!!

On-topic: Nah, I don't think so. Top-end NVIDIA card in a 15", sure, but top-end AMD card? Just don't see it. Or haven't seen it yet, at least...

 

Ask and you shall receive.

 

I want one!

 

I doubt you will see 4870 in any 15", 4850 might be possible in those 7-8lbs thick Alienware/Sager/Clevo DTR 15" though...

 

Yea I was thinking the bigger 15" laptops like Asus G50VT, Clevo M860TU might have a chance...

 

Oh baby, if I can fit one of these cards into my M860TU, I'll cry tears of joy.

 

What was the reason the stopped putting 9800m GT's in em? Was it heat? I'll bet you won't see a 4870 if it was...

 

Nvidia has phased the 8800M GTX/9800M GT out of production. The exact reason is unknown; some say it's to move it on to a 55nm process, but the more plausible thought is that it's being replaced as the high-end card by the 9800 GTX, leaving the 98GTS for mid-high and the 9700 GTS rounding out the low-high end.

It makes sense.

That said, I have little hope for the feasibility of the 4870, and I'll only care about the 4850 if it's stronger than the 9800GTX.

 

I hope nVidia phases out a lot more cards, there are far too many at the moment...

 

I would like the power of a GTX280 in a 15.4"...

 

I would like to see the 4650 or 4670 on the market now.

 

That would be almost as big as the keyboard.

 

A 9700gts isn't that low-end is it?

 

I would love to see a GeForce MGTX 280 in a 17". That will probably be nVidia's response to the 4870X2.

 

Every 256-bit, 512MB card is considered high-end; the 9700gts is the lowest of Nvidia's modern high-end cards, but it's still a very strong card that'll play any game easily. As I'm sure you know very well sir .

 

My brother`s 4850 maxes out at 65C, granted, his max resolution is 1680x1050 and the fan is on full blas always...

 

Man, I do wish seeing a 4850 or 4870 in a 15 incher but I really doubt it for the near future. Guys, we haven't seen any of the 38xx cards in a 15 inch or smaller laptops what what makes us think that they can pull it off with the
4xxx cards (supposed to be more powerful) with out any thermal issues when we all know mobile ATI cards run much hotter than Nvidia. Nvidia barely pulls it off with their high-end cards in a 15 inch so I really doubt that ATI can do the same any time soon when they barely have them available for any 17inch as it is.

 

Just for giggles, Mark at Killer Notebooks did put a 3870 in an M860TU, and it ran without a hitch. He'll probably even sell you the notebook with one installed, if you ask him for it.

 

Really? Wonder if there was any benchmarks on it and how it would compare to the 9800m gt?

 

If you can correlate desktop performance to the notebook world, the 4850 performs within 2-3 FPS of not the 9800GTX, but the 9800GTX+, and better than the 3870X2. 38xx series is a dead end.

Honestly, I expect the 4830 to have the strongest translation to the mobile world if they decide to do it, it's priced quite a bit under the 4850 but performs better than the 9800 GT and a bit slower than the 9800 GTX. Runs a lot cooler too. If they can bring this to the mobile market at similar pricing to where it falls in the desktop market, it'll be a dominant mid-high card.

 

I recall something about OCZ having the 3870. I believe it's far inferior to the 4850 though, so even though that can be put in the 15", doesn't mean a 4850 can. The 3870 is supposed to be a fair amount below the 9800M GT, it's closer to competing with the 9700M GTS and the 8800M GTS/9800M GS.

 

+1 QFT....

 

Basically the 4830 performs on par or better than a 9800 GT and sells for the price of a 9600 GT. Again, if performance and price point transfers and scales like the desktop edition, you could see this card in sub $1200 notebooks, and also quite a few sub $1000 systems. Imagine the sales that would generate.

Also, the 4850/4830/4670 hold their performance level better than their NVidia counterparts when AA/AF are introduced, with the effect more pronounced in the mid to lower end cards.

Of course it's all pure speculation, but currently ATI is dominating the mid range of the price/performance spectrum of the desktop market, so they really ought to give NVidia some competition. I've had 2 NVidia GPUs and 2 ATI GPUs so I'm not a brand fanboy, I just like to see good competition because that's good for us.

 

Funny, Palit 4850 is selling at 4830 price. Strange european market price.

 

I bought my HIS 4850 for $118 in a Newegg bundle with 2 GB of OCZ SLI 4-4-4-15 RAM, so the prices are dropping, but a 4830 can be had for $99. At the time $109 was the lowest 4830 price, but $140 is the standard after rebate price for the 4850 now.