Can you overclock ATI Mobility 4330 to the speed of ATI Mobility 4570 ?

Question says it all. Can I do that without harming my Dell Inspiron 15 ?

 

there are no guarantees in this life.

that would be a pretty significant overclock, and without additional cooling and other precautions, you probably would not be successful in getting that kind of overclock and may end up damaging your hardware in the process.

 

how do u overclock ATI's?

 

http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=124420

 

Very doubtful. In theory maybe you could do it, with the right precautions, but why don't you set your goals a little closer to home (especially if you haven't done a lot of OCing in the past).

 

Post a GPUz screen shot so we can see what the cards running.

 

Yes u should be able to... its a matter of whether your laptop's cooling system can take the extra temperature...

 

Every GPU has a different overclocking limit because of how the parts are binned.
The HD 4330, 4530, and 4570 all use the same core, but the fabrication facility that makes the GPU core stress tests each core to see how stable it is. If it can't meet their requirements of stability at HD 4570 speeds, it'll be labelled an HD 4530. If it's not stable at HD 4530 speeds, it'll be an HD 4330.
It's just like how Intel Core Solo CPUs are just Core Duos with the second core permanently disabled due to instability.

That being said, their stability standards aren't equivalent to those for the end user. You might be able to reach HD 4530 speeds, but HD 4570 is almost a 50% overclock and thus damn near untouchable.

HD 4330 Core - 450 MHz
HD 4530 Core - 500 MHz (+11.1%)
HD 4570 Core - 680 MHz (+51.1%)

 

Is 50% too much?

Because I overclocked my old nvidia quadro nvs 130m (like 8400m G) 60% on the core and 50% mem.

Or do the ATi GPUs not overclock well?

 

No, from I understand, ATI GPU's clock better than NVIDIA...

That's how it was when it came to desktops anyway.

 

50% overclocks are starting to push the levels of "safe" on core and memory clocks - since Nvidia clocks their shaders separately and higher, 50%+ isn't so bad.
My own clocks are overclocked +31.5%core/+50%shaders/+18.8%memory.

 

For a long time. I wanted a Laptop with an ATI Mobility HD 4570 or 4650 but my Dad surprised me with a Dell Inspiron 15 with an ATI Mobility HD 4330.

I think I'm the most sad person ever. And no it can't be returned. I really want to play new games like MW2 but now all hopes are gone. We're not that rich so it'll take like 3-4 years again before I ask my Dad for a new Laptop. Or a Desktop I don't know.

Please can I play any new games released on 2009 ? Anyone has game benchmarks for this card or anything equal to this card ? I need help please..

 

http://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-ATI-Mobility-Radeon-HD-4330.13973.0.html

Take a look there.

You'll be able to play some games on it, but dont expect high res or high details, MW2 will actually likely run because its not that demanding, but you'll be looking at 1024x768, perhaps 1280x1024, low-medium settings for a reasonable framerate.

Sounds like your Dad has bought either with budget in mind, or he's trying to stop you playing games rather than working!

 

You can overclock it to 4570 speed but what type of memory does it have? Oh its Inspiron so DDR2... well should be able to play MW2 but u won't max it... there are some benchmarks for it on this link... anyways u can return the laptop in the first 2-3 weeks.. if i were u , i'd do that and get a studio 15.
Link for Benchmark for 4330 and 4570 below.

4330 : http://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-ATI-Mobility-Radeon-HD-4330.13973.0.html

About 2500-3300 3D Mark 06 score.

4570: http://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-ATI-Mobility-Radeon-HD-4570.13885.0.html

3000-4000 score... You should be able to OC 4330... but i would return the laptop and get a studio 15 at least.

Cheers
Sean473

 

I get just over 2600 points in 3dmark06 with my notebook, see signature.

 

You definitely can overclock it, I've done it before, just haven't bothered since I installed Windows 7. It'll play most games just fine on low / medium details, but high it will begin to severely struggle. I haven't got MW2, but it can definitely play MW1 just fine on medium res, low/medium details. Well enough to play the game anyway.

 

Yes, you can overclock to 4570 speeds, but it certainly isn't recommended. That's one massive overclock right there, and the 4330 probably won't even get there.

 

I never managed to get it to 4570 speeds, I think the highest I got the core speeds was 550MHz; can't remember about the memory, but I don't think it maybe budged by more than 50MHz before the machine would just lock up and reboot.

Odd considering they are both the same chip essentially.

Be happy that you got it bought for you is what I say; I remember being slightly disappointed when handed down my first 80186 desktop, but you know, it did the job. I dare say my old 80186 wouldn't play MW2 though, heck it didn't even have a HDD to install the game to, and it would have needed to be on 5 1/4" floppies.....

 

Can someone please list some NEW games that is compatible with this card ? Any new game that I could run for at least 30+ FPS with low-medium settings ? I like RPGs, Third Person Shooters, RTS, and some FPS.

Please help me guys.

 

If you overclock (I suggest 50% on the core, a bit less for the mem) then you should be ok with most games (on lower settings).

Use ATItool to find max core and max mem.

Don't push the memory too hard though.

You should get something like 580/626 or more.
http://hwbot.org/community/submissi...dmark_2006_mobility_radeon_hd_4330_3440_marks

 

my friend bought a new inspiron 15 with a core 2 duo and hd 4330 last month, we both ran passmark at exactly the same time and when it came to the 3d graphics section the framerates were almost exactly the same!
I have an 8600mGT. I was quite surprised I thought the 4330 would of taken the lead by alot but I guess it could be alot worse!

edit: If I remember correctly his specs were

t6600
4gigs ddr3
hd4330

mine:
t5550
3gigs ddr2
8600mGT

 

I have the Dell Inspiron 15 aswell and the specs are..

Core 2 Duo T6600 2.20 GHZ
4 GB RAM
ATI Mobility HD 4330 512 MB
Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit

Do you think it can run games from 2005-2009 on low-medium settings ?

 

LOL! yeah you bought the exact same one as my friend.

well he was playing World in Conflict that was released in 07 but I don't think it requires very high specs.

If I was you I would really look into overclocking like moral hazard said.

and also I would google the name of the game you want to play and the name of your graphics card because often someone has already asked if its playable

edit: here is a quote from http://optimitza.cat/news/2009/05/13/ati-mobility-radeon-hd-4330-performs-very-well-for-an-entry-level-card/

 

Thx for the finding....i'm using ati 4330 also...
using HP Probook 4310s, specs here: C2D T9600, 4gb DDR3....
i can play call of duty modern warfare 2 around 40-50fps, on medium settings(some small and shadows off), i'm also playing mass effect 2, fps is between 15-25...
I nvr do overclocking...

 

Dragon Age
Risen
The Witcher Enhanced Edition
Drakensang
Fallout 3
Source Games

Do you guys think these games are playable with that Laptop on low-medium settings ? Please answer.

 

Source Games, yes. Don't know about the rest.

 

Please, for the sake of technology, post the "Can I Run It" in the sticky. And also, don't crosspost as it is a against the forum rules.

How many topics about the 4330 and games have you made now Sadguy?

Bottom line, it's a low end card, and most modern games will have to run at low - medium settings, without AA. Older games will run alright, particularly Source games, but you really should have opted for the 4570 if you like gaming.

 

Core Speed - 450 MHz
Shader Speed - 450 MHz
Memory Speed - 600 MHz
Memory Bus Width - 64 Bit

Do you guys think it is possible to overclock to this speeds ?

Core Speed - 600 MHz
Shader Speed - 600 MHz
Memory Speed - 800-1000 MHz

 

Try it and let us know.

 

i'm using this ati 4330 also with my hp probook 4310s....i can play mw2 smoothly on the lowest setting and even bad company 2 with the lowest setting with some lag...
Can any1 teach me how to overclock this card?...i tried rivatuner but it says something about driver error and ati overdrive is not there...i'm using windows 7 professional 64bit...
I also try using evga, but when i click apply it will just return to the default position...

 

Try this.

Worked fine for my 3650.

 

The program freeze after i opened it....any other program?...
Is this the problem with windows 7 x64?...should i just install 32 bit?...

 

You can run all these games with decent FPS but I don't recommend Dragon Age - Origins because it will pump up ur temps like insane....

As for your overclocking I managed to get 800/800/900 core/shader/mem. on my 4570 with no temp. increase because in a matter of fact my 4570 runs 84-90 average while stressed .... So I think you can reach the core speed of the 4570 but you won't go as much with the memory because the memory overclockability of the 4000 series sucks

 

Any other program?...

 

My 4330 stocks at 400MHz, 500MHz. With the AMD GPU Clock Tool v0.9.26.0 I've been able to OC the card to 500MHz, 650MHz with relative stability. Temperatures were around 85C, so if my laptop has better cooling I might be able to push it further.

My card has DDR2 RAM, so I would expect other cards with DDR3 to have better memory speed.

Ran through Furmark at 800x480, displacement mapping and post-processing, no AA. Averages out around 16 FPS (for me).

 

Thanks, the program works for me...

 

OMG i got 25 % INCREASE FROM SWITCHING 10.3 REGULAR DRIVER TO ENZYME 1.3 BETA MODIFIED FOR CATALYST 10.3 ON 4330 HD, THING FLIES

 

Msi Afterburner Open Msi Folder Then Use Notepad To Change The Value Of Unnoficial Overclocking From 0 To 1

 

Hey, 25% increase, me want these drivers?

Also does that afterburner thing work??

 

These are the 10.3 enzyme beta drivers

http://www.cell-systems.net/forum/beta-drivers/enzyme-1-3-beta/

 

My stock HD 4330 clocks are core 450MHz and 600MHz memory , your stock 400MHz, 500MHz are a bit of a swizz.

EDIT : just noticed your GDDR2 memory.

 

if someone was able to make opencl thiny work for 4330 pls post or pst how, Do you realy need microsoft visual studio crapski?

 

say @anton strila, how do you know its a 25% increase? Did you run some benchmark? Im really interested about such boosts.

 

Most ATI cards will throttle back at 105 degrees, and turn off at 115. If you don't mind the extra heat inside your computer, running it as hot as 90 is about what a gaming notebook would do - even as high as 95 wouldn't be too crazy. The dell 1557/1558s run at 95-100 with a 4570.

 

Sorry it just updated my open gl3.0>>3.1 benchmarking software. but driver "ati opencl beta driver v2.0 beta4 did give me around 100 more fps on 3dmark06
then 10.3 on4330, i maxed out on 3572. IT`s downloadable here /filespump.com/download/20073567-ati-opencl-beta-driver-v2-0-beta4-vista-win7-zip.html

 

err 100 marks. also c++2010 micros redist. package is out

 

msi afterburner 1.6 beta 3 is out today also

 

100/3572 x 100% is definitely NOT 25% increase. And my maths isn't last class either.

 

I just thought my cooling system sucked big time