Clevo notebooks with 800M series coming out February 2014

Or maybe:

Or did you mean:

LOL

 

Is there a chance the 880 GTX (mobile) fit in the older Clevo systems? Such as the P370SW3?

 

Since the cores are weaker with Maxwell,

Roughly
GM108, up to 1200 cores (GK107 had 384 cores)
GM206, up to 2000 cores (GK106 had 768 cores, 2x as GK108)
GM204, up to 3000-4000 cores (GK104 had 1536 cores, 2x as GK106)

I think GM206/GM204 will be impossible to make without 20nm due to the massive core count and the die space it requires if made in 28nm. GM108 is 100% possible because it have less cores than GK104 which is made on 28nm today. And GM108 will serve as a soft launch to introduce Maxwell and to let OEMs have something to sell while they work on 20nm production.

One should note that GT 640M, 650M and GTX 660M was the first one to arrive from Kepler too. GK107 which was the smallest Kepler core (like GM108).

Again, take this with a mountain of salt. I`m just guessing based on a few things.

You should ask a reseller to get a definitive answer. 880M runs at 1GHz, it may need better cooling than the old machines.
If you have GTX 780M, don`t buy 880M. Just overclock it to 1GHz. Its the same GPU

 

Well they have started with something atleast.

GeForce 800M Graphics Cards Series | Laptop Graphics | NVIDIA

 

Its awefully late for a 800M card, so that increase the odds that its a Maxwell in my eyes.

Lenovo IdeaPad Y50 Gaming Laptop to Deliver 4K Display, GTX 860M Nvidia Graphics | Laptoping | Windows Laptop & Tablet PC Reviews and News

Its sad that none have tried running GPU-Z on the machine. Here is device manager, but thats not helping much

 

basically no improvement as of yet, 880M >= 780M

 

For you, there is no nice headphones here and some prefer to watch movies on it without headph. or with some friends
It's not the same rhythm/type of living

about the GTX 860M what about just running the nvidia control center ... there is no need for GPU-z for now :/

 

External speakers?

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too hard to carry

 

duplicate post (dang it)

 

LOL. Size of a tennis ball, if that.

 

Cloudfire, after this minor news what do you expect the GTX 870 to be? another 770 like the 880' s case? and would it be a maxwell 28nm. What is your opinion?

 

What I expect but do not know:
GTX 870M = GTX 680M @ 1GHz

Since the full GK104 core, aka 1536 core, aka GTX 880M now runs at 1GHz,
I expect GTX 870M, aka 1344 core, to get the same treatment.

I think it will be a rebrand.


EDIT: Nope. I`m wrong. According to Clevo roadmap GTX 870M will have 6GB VRAM. Meaning it will be a 192bit.

GTX 670MX was a GK104 with 960 cores and 192bit bus. It could be that one. But that interfere with my whole plan about what was suppose to come as Maxwell. Damnit

 

Cloud it's most likely a gk106 in full like the 770m like I told you.

It may have faster ram or core clocks though. They would never move to a cut down gk104 when they make more profit with a gk106.

 

870M = 770M OC ? and 860M is what ? 770M ? or OC to the death GTX 765M ?

 

Since we're all guessing here, my thoughs, but add ~ +10% GPU clock.

880m = 780m (256-bit)
875m = 680m (256-bit)
870m = 770m (192-bit)
860m = 765m (128-bit)
850m = 760m (128-bit)

I don't see the point in them doing this at all. Just retain the 700M monikers and bump to 800M when Maxwell actually releases in June/July (or whenever).

 

maybe try new gigabyte gaming laptop? the info is on tweaktown.com look for new released gigabyte thin notebook. donno the cost though

 

You mean the Aorus X7? Not sure what that has to do with this topic, but it uses 765m in SLI and base cost is $2100 US.

 

I am not a laptop enthusiast but am pumped for 800 series for desktop.

Hope 870 will kick .

Wish me good luck. Been waiting to upgrade from 570 for a "While Now"

 

Allright, since HT is a pessimist and think all will be rebrands (or maybe a realist, Im not sure ), this is what I think will happen:

GT 840M
Architecture: Maxwell GM108
Core count: 576
Memory bus: 64 or 128bit
Type of memory: 1-2GB DDR3

GT 850M
Architecture: Maxwell GM108
Core count: 576
Memory bus: 128bit
Type of memory: 2GB DDR3

GTX 860M
Architecture: Maxwell GM108
Core count: 768/960
Memory bus: 128bit
Memory type: 2GB GDDR5

GTX 870M
Architecture: Kepler GK104
Core count: 960
Memory bus: 192bit
Memory type: 6GB GDDR5

GTX 880M
Architecture: Kepler GK104
Core count: 1535
Memory bus: 256 bit
Memory type: 8GB GDDR5

GTX 870MX
Architecture: Maxwell GM206
Core count: ?
Memory bus: 192 bit
Memory type: GDDR5

GTX 880MX:
Architecture: Maxwell GM204
Core count: ?
Memory bus: 256bit
Memory type: GDDR5

 

Whats with 870 non M, any ideas?

 

Not really relevant to this forum.

BTW hoping that the 870m is like a 670mx seems odd as that would mean the 770m would be faster....

 

GTX 670MX is a GTX 770M. Maybe you mean the GTX 675MX which also is a 960 core but 256bit bus.

GTX 870M will most likely be 1GHz like 880M, clocked 150MHz higher than GTX 770M.

 

As long as Nvidia releases a proper desktop refresh, they will be fine with revenue.

Mobile uses will get their" true successor" eventually..

 

can't wait already. what the hell is AMD doing not releasing any info on their crystal card lineup

 

The GTX 670MX is a GK104 with disabled units and a 192bit memory bus while the GTX770M is a GK106 and a native 192bit memory bus, it is therefore more efficient and cheaper to produce and will provide higher performance per watt.

You should really know better than to question my knowledge of specs like that cloud

 

They have not talked about 300x at all. 800 need a competition!

 

Curse those two GPUs. I`ve been mixing them together since they launched. GK104 and 192bit does never compute in my head.

GTX 870M might be GK104 because Nvidia might be doing clearance on those. There are more GK104 GPUs made than GK106. So they may not even have to produce anything for the few notebooks that get the GTX 870M. Plus those who doesn`t meet GTX 880M/780M/680M quality, can be reused as GTX 870M by disabling the damaged SMX`s.
A full GK106 is 960 cores. If something goes wrong in the process there, they can`t use it on a GTX 870M.

We will see Meaker

 

Apple are using up those cores as are the very popular GTX760s on the desktop.

 

Wrong thread. But good luck.

Back on topic:

I seriously hope that the 870M is a 680M with 1GHz clocks. Otherwise, this will be a royal f**k up from nVidia. Maxwell for mobile platforms may only be 6-7 months down the line, but they will lose a lot of respect, trust and customers if the 800M series is just an exact rebrand of the 700M series.

 

So then what, go to AMD, because they don't rebrand 3x in a row? Oh wait.

 

3x in a row? 6990m to 7970m was a huge jump just like 680m from 580m. 8970m was a rebrand, that makes it two? do you know about the newer crystal line up thats coming out? oh wait you don't so hows that 3 in a row?

 

http://forum.notebookreview.com/gam...725226-incoming-amd-9970m-34.html#post9520879

 

Did I say AMD is any better? From 680M to 780M was a decent performance difference, so I respected nVidia much more than AMD with their 8970M. The thing is, by making it so that the performance leap from the 770M -> 870M is not big enough, they will lose respect and customers. They will also lose customers for a separate reason - common sense - those who see that 8GB of GDDR5 is a waste of time and that the 880M is a blatant rebrand of the 780M.

What I'm saying is that if the 860M, 865M, 870M have sufficient performance upgrades at the same price as their predecessors, than nVidia will lose far less customers at the upper-mid range, who don't buy the 880M, but see performance jumps in their 860/865/870Ms compared to the 760/765/770Ms. The guys in the very high range (the people who buy the 880M) will hopefully have done enough research before spending 1.5k+ on a gaming laptop to know that the 880M is just a direct rebrand.

 

ewww amd that smells like sh*t
time to wait for 2015, will be perfect for clevo haswell E notebook, if they do decide to make one

 

Right. I'm just saying that losing customers implies they use another brand or product. But they have no other option except AMD.



Beamed from my G2 Tricorder

 

Agreed. I'm sticking with nVidia and the GTX 780M/880M and their superior performance.

 

The guys who test the Y50 at CES have a perfect opportunity to run GPU-Z to hopefully find out more about the GTX 860M.

Baaaah, why haven`t anyone tried yet?

 

I really want to get to CES one day. I went to a couple E3's in the early 2000's and had a blast. But darn kids are cramping my style.

 

Well CES is finished. Thanks a lot for spreading misinformation and creating false expectations SemiAccurate.

Last time I ever trust you.

http://semiaccurate.com/2014/01/02/maxwell-gives-us-glimpse-project-denver-debacle/

 

Does this mean we are still speculating about whether it will be a maxwell or a kepler 28nm? and whether the gain will be useless vram and tiny over clocking? or has any of this been confirmed and if not is there any special occasions coming up in which nvidia can release useful news?

 

I think the dust (of speculation) has pretty much settled on the same old GK104 that has powered 680MX, 780M and, in its cut-down forms, 680M, 675MX, 670MX, 670, 660 TI.. did I miss anyone?

The gain will be mainly the higher clocks. 954 is nothing to scoff at considering that stock 680M was a measly 719, however I think that boost clock of 993 is really something that's only attainable once in a while. My 780M's for example can be clocked as high as I've dared to try (~1100), given enough overvolt, but the performance noticeably decreases beyond 980MHz. That is almost certainly a power limitation but which laptop can be truly free of that except those with dual PSU? I hate to be the naysayer but I think overclocking the 880M would be futile or even detrimental to performance. As for the memory.. Just another way to jack up the price I imagine.

If there were any events coming up, NVIDIA's probably just gonna take the opportunity to dangle another crumb from their Tegra K1 and whatnot. I don't expect them to be extremely proud about what they've done in the mobile line anyway.

 

It can come down to memory speed to for scaling. Even at 1500 MHz scaling tanks past 1100 MHZ and going to 1750 MHZ frees it up again.

 

Unfortunately for me when I'm pushing near the optimum core clock, increasing the memory past about 1350 also decreases performance. It's a pity since my memory does 1550 quite easily but it actually brings the benchmarks down by quite a bit If only the Alienware 18 could be fed more juice..

 

The GTX 770 was based on "GK 106" will the 870 be based on "GK104" instead as an upgrade? and the bigger question is the GTX 870 worth waiting for or do I buy 770 now?

 

You should only need to wait about a month, so why not wait? I don't think there will be much improvement if these claims on the 800m series are true, maybe 10% at best.

 

So, are these 800 series going to require a new architecture or foundation to function?

I'm hearing all this about Maxwell being the new technology for the 800 series to run yet people are saying it's based on the same Kepler technology?

 

Maxwell (new), the desktop 800 (mystery) series, and the 800M (Kepler lol) series are all different things.

 

Lol cloud you have not been around as long as I assumed. Plus you did not read the website name