CoD:MW2 - No more dedicated servers

http://kotaku.com/5384057/new-moder...-service-will-definitely-reshape-pc-community

http://bashandslash.com/index.php?option=com_frontpage&Itemid=1

Seems like we will be using match making service provided by IW, no more dedicated servers, no more mods, what the hell?


UPDATE:

Official Response from "FourZeroTwo" a.k.a. Robert Bowling

http://www.fourzerotwo.com/?p=745



FourZeroTwo Twitter:

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COD: MW2 Online Petition:
105685 Total Signatures as of 10/20/2009 2:52PM
http://www.petitiononline.com/mod_perl/signed.cgi?dedis4mw

 

Meh... I might be skipping this one. They have gone full retard.

 

I like this idea, except the matchmaking part. It will help to eliminate servers with stupid rules, abusive admins, and annoying modifications.

 

It's like when they announced the PC version would be 60 Bucks. They just know that EVERYBODY will buy this game. This structure they got going is probably also a way to make life more difficult for people who download pirated games. They might still crack the single player easily, but playing the multiplayer, if it will require some sort of authentication, might create a whole new sleeve of hassles.

 

Is it like L4D's system now?

 

WOW!!! This will KILL the competitive aspect of the game. I only play COD games in CEVO and (dead)CAL.

If this is true then the competitive community will be shocked!
http://bashandslash.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=91&Itemid=76

 

If you think about it, new PC games have been $50 for the better part of 10 to 15 years or so. It's pretty amazing that $60 for a new PC game has not been make standard yet considering increasing inflation among other increasing costs. Everything has gone up in price in the past 10 years, yet new PC games have largely remained at $50, it's pretty predictably so that the price escalate to $60 by this point. Hey, trust me, I don't like paying more either, but it's just the way things are.

I still think this is going to be an amazing game well worth the $60. What do I think of Left 4 Dead 2? Not worth the $50, I'll wait for that one to come down in price since it hasnt even been a year since Left 4 Dead's release and L4D2 just has some slight new and update content.

 

Computer games haven't remained steady in price. They have increased over the years.

 

The standard for new games over the past 10-15 years has been $50 or so, of course there are variations depending on the game, etc.

 

Im guessing the main reason for doing this is so that the pc version is more standard in comparision to the console game, less problematic with regards to pirated copies and as stated above no more headaches with modded servers etc...makes sence but im guessing it may very well inpact the pc sales of the game.

 

It really hasn't been that expensive until 6 years ago when some games hit that price.

 

I think they are following Blizzard's new BattleNet model, where the developer (publisher) controls everything. Partly to combat piracy, but most importantly, there's money to be made - since free mods and custom maps can no longer be created by users, developers can make money by creating their own DLCs, map packs, even in-game items - this is the model of the console platform.

Nevertheless, people who are going to pirate this game is still going to, and the game will still get cracked no matter what.

 

I just heard they will charge for DLC on the PC. Lame. They want to kill PC gaming. !

 

Sounds like the next step is to issue a monthly maintenance fee for IWnet....

 

And this is only the beginning. I bet other developers will soon jump on the crapping on PC gamers trend.

 

so is it going to be p2p? if it is thats a big disappointment for me.

 

No. IW hosts the servers.

 

I think the trend of ditching/ignoring PC gaming platform is already started:

Lousy rushed PC ports
Delayed PC game releases
Ridiculous DRM schemes
Limit number of installations
etc...

Dare I say the golden age of PC gaming is already gone in oblivious. Sigh, sad day for PC gamers.

 

that is ridiculous, I find servers that I like and stick with 'em, and love mod servers, it's all i've been playing lately. Not so sure how they would expect to charge for new content without it getting out and downloaded for free.

 

What can you do? What can you do. *sigh*

 

Man I actually wanted to buy this game for Christmas. That means I cant play via LAN/ADHOC.

 

Fail.

Heres hoping the game bombs hard.

 

Not going to happen. It will get stunning reviews and everyone and their mother will go out and buy it. Even the nay sayers now will have a change of heart. We have no choice but to adapt to the changes coming our way.

 

yea you do have a choice. dont buy the damn game. They can do whatever they want to it since its their game but it doesnt mean im going to buy.

1 customer lost and plenty on the way im sure.

 

Meh, I'll get Borderlands instead.

 

i have to agree with you here, its a choice and its easily made for me, i wont buy this game, MW was a good game that's for sure, but it wasnt the best game ive played, i never played it online so for myself its not the end of the world.i wont be buying MW2.
it saddens me that so many developers are going this route with pc games though, times are changing.

 

If CoD:MW2 is anything like the first one I will get it just for the 1 player mode, I didnt really stick around on multiplayer for very long.

I think a lot of other fps games do multiplayer better, though the rank for upgrades thing did make me stick around for a while but not long enough.

 

Are you kidding me??

The competitive community is screwed here.

COD series games have always had multiplayer as the core of the gameplay, and really the saving grace to subpar singleplayer campains, sans COD4. This just solidifies the rumors that IW is a money hungry hooker like many thought they were. They used to support the PC gaming community, now they treat us like lepers.

Their are a lot of angry pre-ordered buyers cancelling their purchases. Now that mulitplayer will most assuredly be DOA, I cant see how the game will las longer than 6 months.

If I were treyarch, I would take this opportunity to proper infinity ward.

 

Thats because you never got passed Hardcore FFA.

Go play in a PROMOD server with CEVO settings if you would like a challenge, and see competitive gameplay.

In other words, get off the noob TDM and HQ servers and play some comp mod.

 

Not so sure about that.

I remember a time where all PC games were $40 at release. Unless that was long ago and i cant remember.

 

Inflation really affects the cost of goods and materials, but game development costs remain fairly steady.

Even so, $50 has always seemed like a lot of money for me considering that PC titles aren't returnable and, let's face it, are largely a mixed bag in terms of quality and entertainment. I think this is why I get games via BT first before buying them.

 

wow no dedicated servers, no mods that really sucks that i might just stick to COD4 like i been doing

man they are really acting retarded even if you pirated COD4 you wont be able to play multiplayer at all without a legal CD key most people that pirated COD4 ended up buying it afterwards because of that and also the short single player. COD4 sold very well and it was a awesome game they should of stick to that same system. I think they are using the pirated excuse too much

Also Matchmaking sucks anyways and i also i like playing on modded servers because of the different maps and other game modes

I dont know i might end up not buying it even after all of the hype

 

Not necessarily. You can play CoD4 online pirated, as with a lot of other games.

This seems to be just a general streamlining of all PC games with console counterparts (or should I say console games with PC counterparts?).

Unless something has changed dramatically PC games have been at $49.99 (or lower). Yet it seems MW2 warrants a price hike? I think not. This is just a way to milk a popular franchise, which by the way is slowly being beaten to death faster than Mario.

 

Had to quote this for truth, it's just a cash grab. I will buy the game though... When it hits the bargain bin.

 

I am 100% disagreement here.

What makes you assume that the servers will have moderators sitting on every single server watching players play?

Tell me this.

Do you want racism, discrimination, spams, hacking/cheating, exploiting, and all other possible that can happen in a server? Or would you rather have "stupid rules" and have admins to enforce those rules for people like me to actually enjoy the game without IDIOTS screwing around in the servers?

Those "Annoying modifications" can be avoided EASILY. Just choose a server without them.

Sure, abusive admins and really stupid rules can be found in some servers. Most servers don't have these environment.

God, IW has gone stupid with this retarded idea about matchmaking.

 

Well the problem is most people are dumber than a box of chocolate....and today it's raining hersheys.

 

You may cancel your pre-order, but IW and Actiblizzard are still going to rake in millions from console sales. A few people canceling their pre-orders on the PC will hardly be of any concern to them.

And to those advocating piracy, you do realize that you are committing a crime? Especially to the guy who said he torrents games before buying them. Developers worked hard to make the game and deserve to get paid for their work, they have families to feed and bills to pay like the rest of us. You decided not to pay for a game and pirate it instead is like saying, you know what, I think HP PC's are a piece of crap, so I'm just going to steal one and use it for a while and see if I like it or not. In simpler terms, there is no difference between a game pirate who torrents MW2 vs. some thug who steals a copy from Wal-Mart.

@sabricaze: As long as they implement a mute system, a votekick system, and a decent cheating protection system (they will be using Valve's VAC), then those problems will be minimized. Besides, people have freedom of speech, if they wanna be racist on their mics while playing MW2, then so be it, you can just mute them.

 

Yeah, like CS:S.. Totally minimized the racism and hacking..

 

Ill tell you why I hate this: comodification.

The thing that makes gaming (and most other entertainment) is community. Ya, you can have an amazingly fun game that is supported well etc...what makes a game last forever and develop a following is COMMUNITY!

Think of Counterstrike...this game has been modded to death, has a cult following, a massive competitive aspect and will be around forever. When you join CS servers you meet a group of people who play and talk together on a daily basis and probably know a good deal about each others lives...after work or school they hang out. Every person who loves the community of these games is less likely to run out and purchase some new one. (Not good for developers)

When companies wrestle control away from users (ie: this bulll) you create an atmosphere of disconnected people who are only playing for the actual game, and the more social elements are removed (don't get me wrong, Im not saying gaming should be a person's sole social interaction, just that any is good).

In my opinion this is about profit, and the need to create a market willing to scarf down the next release without any hesitation....

I'll avoid this game like I do Wal-Mart.

 

Mods ultimately lead to the death of vanilla gameplay, so I think it's quite fair move.

Because you can't mute players in CS:S. With tweaked voting tolerances, would work even better for hackers.

 

well if the IW is hosting the servers,I live in Turkey it is far away from America,Germany and any modern country.

if these servers will be hosted in only single location in america or in other far countries away from me,I wont play because of a high ping.

totally fail,cod 5 is hardly playable without a orginal key code.

they all ready earned enough money,know only people that have a good money will buy this game.

I never spend any money in games.

 

I do it all the time? Player List - Person - > Mute in-game voice.

 

Wow, this thing is getting out of proportion, less than 24hrs, there's already 20,000+ signatures at online petition:

http://www.petitiononline.com/mod_perl/signed.cgi?dedis4mw

 

Your sarcasm detector is broken.

 

Of course, votekick system can never be abused, right? You think VAC gets rid of every cheater in every server? No. What is more effective than a VAC in perspective to each server? Admins.

You have not learned freedom of speech correctly. People often say freedom of speech applies in every thing they say, but no, it's not. There are limitations, and a simple search in google will give you an answer. Guess what. Racism can't be used for freedom of speech.

In any case, whatever system they put in their servers, they WILL NOT work as well as an admin in the server kicking/banning when necessary. You should know that. Also, most of these "systems" will be part of mods. I thought you didn't like mods.

You are very naive USAPatriot. You seem to not have played many online games around.

Update: I'm canceling my preorder. Until they either change or proven to work better, I guess I'm not playing this game. For your information, it's not just "few" people canceling this order for PC. I'd say load. Shooter games are usually sold more in PC than the consoles. (Leave out Halo, yes.) Sure, they will still get sales on consoles, but if they miss the hit on the PC market, it won't do much good for them.

 

Well yeah a lot of people are pissed about this like me. Who cares about piracy MW2 is going to sell very well anyways maybe more than COD4 did they are just being money hungry. But without dedicated servers in MW2 the longeitivy of MW2 will be greatly shortened

Btw when i mean about longetivy i meant by how long people are going to be playing MW2 until they get bored of it completly

 

Thing is, who cares about the longevity of the game?

All they need and want is the initial sales and profit. They don't give how long you play it.

 

34k Petition Sigs.

 

Yep. It's growing larger and larger by the minute! I'm going to wait before jumping the gun and canceling my preorder.

 

man, it seems like this game just keeps going downhill. I probably won't buy the game on release anymore and wait a while for reviews, price drops, etc etc... I wonder what in-game changes they are making! :S

I do enjoy the single-player missions, but they for sure aren't worth the $60; unless there's a superb online experience, but that doesn't seem to be the case at the moment.