Counter Strike with 2D Clock Speeds?!?! 9800M GTX help!

Hey All,

I'm in need of some help and advice. I just picked up a Sager 9262 with the 9800M GTX. I saw this issue with both 177.92 and 177.98 drivers (upgraded instantly so didn't pay attention to the 176.09) Well, when I play WoW and COD4, both GPUZ and RivaTune shows that I am on max clock speeds (no OC) both at 1350/799 (RivaTune) and 500/799 (GPUZ) **still not sure which core clock is actually accurate**

However, when I play Counter Strike (1.6), I get the 2D Clock speeds; 275/301 (GPUZ) 594/300 (RivaTune). Seems that CS isn't "3D" Clock speed worthy. No Idea whats happening, but I might just live with it. Was just wondering if anyone else is having the same issue? Are you getting 3d clock speeds while playing CS? Testimonials and/or advice please... I just dont feel like a "hacker" with 2D clock speeds >.<

 

Is the game running slowly? If you're still getting good FPS with 2d clock settings... it's probably not stressing the video card enough to kick in fully

Maybe you can try forcing some AA on and get it kicked in?

 

CSS is not a very video intensive game, it's CPU intensive.

 

are you using the high performance power profile in vista?

 

I agree if it is running fine with 2D speeds, don't worry about it. Who knows, maybe you'll get more playing time from your battery.

 

its the driver trust me, those 2 have problems with Clocks, make sure powermizer is disabled, i recommend going to something like 177.62

 

Thanks for the replies guys

Citizen86: Game is running smoothly. 100 fps net graph looks good, nothing is choppy.. and everything is smooth. It probably isn't stressing the video card to have it kick in fully. Forcing AA might be an idea, I'm guessing I'm going to set that up in my nVidia control area since there is no on/off AA in cs video option?

Hep!: And that is just CSS... I play 1.6 >.<

Harper2.0: High Performance and Plugged in

Sgt. Hollywood: It's running fine with 2D speeds (as in the game functions fine) but the registry is much better when it has the 3d clock speeds (Game starts off with 3D clocks, then gets downclocked to 2D). I'm not worried about playing time w/ my battery (since I need to be plugged in for optimum settings) It is the gameplay. Bullets register so much nicer with 3D clock speeds. I play at this one server where it is headshots only. In the begining, it's really just point and shoot. But once it gets clocked down, the bullets do not register as well. It feels like i'm playing with my old PC again where I am literally aiming for the head, but nothing is going through.

Citizen86 brings up a good point. Stressing the vid card. Any suggestions on doing so? the video settings in cs doesnt offer much. Asks if you want to use OpenGL (whcih I do) software (which is just bad) D3D (which I've tried... same thing) THen it asks for resolution (1600x1200 is max setting), Running Medium 32bit (other option is just 16bit) and normal window mode (instead of widescreen) and thats pretty much it. So how else can I stress the video card? Is that something that can be done outside of the game?

I think you gave me some new "search" words... I'll see what I can find.

Any suggestions would be appreciated as well. Thanks in advance

 

Will do, I'll try 177.62 when I get home from work. I won't need any Modded INF right? all the 177.92 and 177.98 i've been downloading has come with an INF i needed to replace. So I just leave it as is right? Do you think it can be the modded INF too?

Also, I have tried Powermizer. Can someone enlighten me of how it works? Disabling it did nothing. I would like to know what it does, and why.

 

I dont know if you've tried this but you can disable powermizer to force your card to run in performance 3d all the time.

 

These are the things I did to disable Powermizer as suggested by another person in the forum:

Search the system registry, you are looking for for a string called "PerfLevelSrc"
Change the value data from 3333 to 3322. Click ok.

Find "PowerMizerEnable" and change the value data from 1 to 0.

Find PowermizerLevel and change the value to 1, Find PowermizerLevelAC and change value to 1

This should disable powermizer

Is that the proper way? Because I did this... and it was still clocking at 2D speeds. But I have read in other threads that having it off, they do get the full 3d clocks (at all times too hehe)

 

that sounds like how you would go about it.. I did it and I had to restart for it to take effect. Its wierd that its not working if you followed through on all the procedures. Might want to install a different driver and try it again! good luck!

 

I guess that's what I'll do. I'll go for the 177.62 as suggested earlier.

I did follow up w/ a restart. Even went back to the regedit and saw that the new settings did take in effect and plugged in, but no aftermath effect.

I'll give the .62 a try.. if nothing there... i'll see what the original 176.09 has to offer >.<

 

I disabled powermizer using 174.74 and it worked. You should try that driver if it doesnt work with 177.62.

 

okay... I can... but now going 174.74 when original driver was 176.09... i need to ask... what will I be losing?


What do they do in these driver updates?

 

Try first going to your Nvidia Control Panel, and under 3d settings>Manage 3d settings, click the Program settings tab, and if the game isn't listed there, you can click the Add button and go find the actual program. Then under Antialiasing mode choose Override any application settings then set it to the highest like 16xQ with Supersampling.

Might still not fully stress the video card, but hopefully get it up to 3d settings. Plus it'll look really smooth

 

awesome... I'll give that a go b4 a driver swap... looks like my plate is getting full!



*edit*

I actually did try to find the cstrike.exe since I wanted to just turn off vsync for that game only to help w/ FPS (i can toggle on/off w/ WoW and COD4) BUt couldn't find it. It goes through Steam now, so there is a steam.exe, but that doesnt do anything. There is a HL.exe... which is weird bc.. it's not even dl'ed. Maybe that would be it? I'll give that a go. I'll google it now too

 

Yeah it'll be under the Steam folder, steamapps>account>Counter-strike or something... I'm not sure, I only have CS:S installed right now, but even there the program executable is hl2.exe, haha... so it'll just be the one in the Counter-Strike folder.

 

will do, I'll give that a go.

are you getting ur 3d clock speeds w/ CS:S?

 

Of course, 16xQAA @ 1440x900, 60FPS with V-sync... with the 8800m GTS

CS:S is a lot more stressful on the video card though...

 

did you have to do anyting w/ your set up? or does it hit full clocks by itself? and what driver are u using?

 

177.83, I haven't updated since the PhysX upgrade that came with those drivers. Haven't had any problems, been working well for me.

I don't think I had to change anything, but like I said, Source is more graphically intensive so I doubt it would have the problem of staying in 2D settings. Try forcing the AA and see what happens.

 

Will do.. thanks for the input Citizen

 

Can't add HL.exe through the controler >.< What gives?

 

OMG IT WORKS!!! Citizen86 It WORKS!!

I went back to my original driver.. 176.09 and still nothing happened. It would still dip. But at least... I WAS ABLE TO ADD HL.EXE!!! And that did the trick!!! It dips down once in awhile... but only for a second!! THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE TIP! And thank you all for the inputs!!

Now... I just hope I didn't count my eggs to early >.<

 

You mean adding AA? hope so... probably looks better as well

Which server do you play on? I wouldn't mind trying a headshot only game

 

Well... all seems well. It does dip down here and there though... maybe just a fine tune? Some times it stays there for a good 5 seconds.. but most of the time I dont even see RivaTune budge




But overall I'm please. I upgraded back to .98 (don't know why really). I noticed that I can't add games again to the 3d manage... but hopefully I wouldn't have to At least HL.exe stayed... so I can still fine tune it. So thank you very much for all the help

66.151.138.67:27015 is the HS only server =) it's ridiculous. It's so much fun w/ a beast laptop. It's seriously just point and shoot. My handle is nam3|ess... it is 1.6 though hehe... I might just try source now that I know I have something that can handle it hehe.

Thanks again

 

Well I downloaded 1.6, joined the server, but I think it was just bots playing, heh... and nobody was killing anyone. Oh well, maybe another time.

 

lol yea, the server gets bugged here and there. if it shows 6 ppl playing... chances are it is the 3v3 bots. those guys are fun hehe... but yeah, it'll be back up again debating if i want to pay 19.99 for source =/ maybe when steam has that 50% off weekend again hehe.

But yea, in that control panel, there is one option where I can change it from "hardware" to OpenGL specification... I did that... no difference really... but I was wondering, do you have any tips on making that clock speeds constant?