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    Crysis - 8600MGT DDR2 users, please help

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by AmazingGracePlayer, Jan 1, 2008.

  1. AmazingGracePlayer

    AmazingGracePlayer Notebook Deity

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    Question for all users who is currently playing or have played Crysis on their laptop with 8600M GT GDDR2 (256MB) card...

    What resolution and settings did you play the game on when using DX9?
    What resolution and settings did you play the game on when using DX10?

    (Screenshots and/or description of advanced settings and antialiasing would be very helpful)

    Thanks!!

    EDIT: frame rates will be useful too. Thanks!
     
  2. hyakku

    hyakku Notebook Geek

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    I play on 1024x768 (sometimes 1280x800 or whatever it is but I prefer 1024 as its more stable), all settings on high except shadows on low, volumetric on low, shaders on med. Looks and runs great. No Screenies now, but I'll try to get back to you with that.
     
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    How do i let both crysis and sandbox2 rund dx9?
     
  4. AmazingGracePlayer

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    I can play on 1280x800 w/ everything on high except shadow on medium on DX9 and no anti-aliasing. But I don't know what the optimized setting for DX10 is....
     
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    I run it at 1280x720, very high tweak that allows HDR, sunbeams. I get about 30 FPS most of the time.
    http://www.incrysis.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=14544 this is the tweak I used, the game looks as good as all medium settings using the very low tweak, plus you have the HDR and Sunbeams, shadows and some other effects.
     
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    wow dude.....even in action, i struggle to get even 20 at high settings with 1024 x 768. any other tweaks you running?
     
  7. dmacfour

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    thats it, i tried a couple of others, and they paled in comparison to what this tweak did.... I was amazed by how much it increased my performance. Sunbeams are truly an amazing effect in the game. sometimes I just look through the tree to watch the sunbeams. It's a small mod, an autoexec.cfg.

    EDIT: In order for it to run correctly you have to set the in game graphics settings to all low. obviously the tweak mods it so it dosen't look like all low, and physics are the same as they would be on medium.
     
  8. blackbird

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    lol...cant belive forcing it to run in very high makes it run better then running it in medium.

    do you reckon it would work with the demo..as id like to try it out before bying the game, also a link to the tweak would be great
     
  9. dmacfour

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    here you are: http://files.filefront.com/Cubans+CustomCrysisConfigs+12/;9133381;/fileinfo.html
    It comes with configs for very low all the way through very high.... all levels have sunbeams, HDR, and shadows enabled, as well as interactive foliage, and destructible buildings. on very low the game looks better than medium W/O the tweak. low run nice at 10x7, very low runs well at 12x7. be sure to read the instructions an how to do it otherwize it won't work.

    EDIT: http://www.incrysis.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=14544 this link describes how to use the config, and in the next post are fixes for glitches you might encounter.
     
  10. AmazingGracePlayer

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    Wow, thanks dmacfour!
    Is it correct to assume that the "all high" you are talking about is on DX9?
     
  11. dmacfour

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    yep... I'm running XP. using this mod, you must make sure that you set your in game graphics settings to all low, no matter what config you use. the config will adjust the graphical quality itself. The only problems I have encountered with these tweaks are a few shadow and lighting glitches. All of the problems I have encountered are addressed in the FAQ on the incrysis forum.
     
  12. AmazingGracePlayer

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    Another question, by setting everything to low, does that include resolution? (And should I run the game on DX9 or DX10)? Did you run it on 9 or 10?
     
  13. dmacfour

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    you can set the res to what ever you like, and in DX9, you get better performance than DX10 (I use DX9 because I have XP). from what I here you won't notice much of a difference between DX9 and DX10.
     
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    so your setting the res to 1280 x 720, setting the graphics to all low

    then applying the tweak and selecting the very high profile

    yes?

    added rep for the help



    edit: nevermind, i read your last post carefully and gather your using the very low config which performs and looks better than the default medium settings
     
  15. Ayle

    Ayle Trailblazer

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    1024 all high except shaders and shadows on medium, no AA, runs smooth except the last boss battle which looked like a slideshow...
     
  16. dmacfour

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    yep. the only thing i noticed that looked different is the foliage; It dosen't look quite as good as default (I can't complain, everything else looks fine).
     
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    great thx, going to try out with demo later on
     
  18. AmazingGracePlayer

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    So which is better in terms of frame rates and graphics...

    1. using the tweak LVL5 or LVL4
    2. running the actual game w/ everything high except shadow on high in DX9
    3. running the actual game w/ everything med except shadow on low in DX10

    (all three are on 1280x800).

    One is better, right?
     
  19. dmacfour

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    I'd say the first, because in enables DX10 effects W/O DX10 actually being on. You may notice graphical differences between the actual very high but you should get better FPS. the 8600m gt however can't handle the level 4/5 tweaks (I've tried). those 2 are meant for high end cards such as the 8800 series. Level 3 is a balance of high effects and performance. the thing about this tweak is it doesn't follow the same levels as default. example: level 3 doesn't look the same as medium default, level one looks much better than default low.
     
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    What do you think is the equivalent of 3 using the tweak? DX9, everything on high, with __x anti-aliasing?
     
  21. dmacfour

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    a mix of high and medium.... level 3 doesn't run very well on my machine even with OC. it's probably all high with medium shadows and shaders, plus the sunbeams and HDR. you just have to try each level out and figure out which one satisfies ur graphic/performance preference.
     
  22. AmazingGracePlayer

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    I can run everything on high w/ shadows on medium very very smoothly without OCing... Weird...
     
  23. blackbird

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    that depends on what res though


    EDIT: this thread has just been us 3 lol...with ayle giving 1 post which i think got ignored
     
  24. dmacfour

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    ya I seem to have lower FPS in crysis than others with the 8600m gt. I have no Idea why. I even get dodgy performance at all medium 10x7 W/O the tweak. maybe I have a driver issue.
     
  25. AmazingGracePlayer

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    Native resolution for me - 1280x800. No anti-aliasing, driver is 169.28.
     
  26. dmacfour

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    ahh yes... I'm using the same drivers... I'm going to try the same settings as you W/O the tweak.

    EDIT: I did a test.... at stock clocks, 1280x800, 169.28 drivers, I had the following results:

    Crysis default at all high and medium shaders/shadows 10-15 FPS
    Level 3 tweak 15-20 FPS
    Level 1 tweak 25-30 FPS

    I'm guessing that level 4 will be equivalent to mostly high settings W/O the tweak
     
  27. AmazingGracePlayer

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    I don't get to use my own computer until later on tonight after 9 or 10, I'll post my results tomorrow morning or late tonight.
     
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    LOL, I can't afford to play a games with shaders on low :p
     
  30. dmacfour

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    I don't even get shadows with shaders on low
     
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    I have no clue what the heck is wrong... or rather, I don't know what the heck is right with my computer (see specs in signature). I am able to run the game with average of 15 frames with the following settings on 1280x800...

    dmacfour can you try doing that and see how yours frames turn out??


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    Try not using "Very High" settings. That's killing it.
     
  33. HavoK

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    Maybe stop trying to run the world's most demanding game ever released on 'very high' settings on a crappy mobile card? Honestly, please, what is it with people here. It's like a continuous myth that the 8600GT is half machine, half godly apparition.

    I can barely run Crysis at 1280x1024 v.high on my OC'd desktop HD3870.
     
  34. blackbird

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    dmacfour....that tweak makes the skys look all black/grey instead of blue...and there isnt a fix for it in the faq?
     
  35. AmazingGracePlayer

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    Good graphics is a good thing =P
    What I don't understand is why I get constant 15ish frame rates on 1280x800 when running in DX10 with everything on high except shadow on medium and shader on low. How is that possible?
     
  36. LostPhil

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    Its the shaders on low thats doing it. Probably doesn't look too nice either (judging by the demo). I think I ran the demo at 1280 x 720, shaders on High, textures medium, shadows medium and mixed medium/high for the other effects (they aren't as destructive on the framerate with the exception of post processing) on DX9.

    It was very playable but as I understand it, later levels are more demanding.
     
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    For some reason, I couldn't even play the demo on lowest setting, frame rates averaged about 3... But I can play the actual game on very good settings.
     
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    i´m frustrated. i bought my ASUS c90s to work AND to play games in an acceptable manner, but crysis just don´t run in acceptable frames...
    when doing the tweak with lvl 1 config i´m getting about ~22 fps with 1024x768 and ~18 fps with 1280x800. but i SHOULD perform better shouldn´t it? at least like a vostro 1500. additionally there is a strange behaviour, the game seems to slow down frequentially and turns to normal speed in 2 seconds interval, this could be the stuttering problem but i´m not sure, because the framerates stay in the same level. i can´t explain it better because i´m german and do not have the right vocabulary
     
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    Maybe you have a defective card?? Your system should run way better than mine, if I can play 1280x800 on DX10 with most things on very high, you should too.
     
  40. dmacfour

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    well the thing about this tweak is that you are supposed to set all of the graphics settings to low..... the config file is what controls the detail level. here's what you are supposed to do with the config: copy it to the crysis folder, set all graphic settings to low, and then restart crysis. you are supposed to leave all of the settings on low (you can change the resolution if you like though). I you have any one of the configs, and all of the settings on low, you get all of the effects metioned earlier.
     
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    have you tried overclocking? I get 10 extra FPS with a 580/445 OC
     
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    I wish I knew what OCing was all about *envy*
     
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    Just download ntune from the nvidia website, and then you can OC directly from your nVidia control panel.

    I'm amazed at the performance some of you guys are getting on this game. I'm using the 169.04 driver, and even OC'd to 667/500, all settings on medium except shaders and post processing on high, and physics/volumetric on low, and 1024 res, still was way too choppy to play(no antialiasing). For the last 3 levels I had to go down to 800X600. This is in dx9. I tried all high and very high settings and 1200X800 resolution just to see what the graphics looked like, and it's LESS than 1 fps.

    Is post processing very bad for fps?
     
  44. dmacfour

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    I tweaked the tweak file so that it didn't have and of the very high effects and was surprised to get a 5-15 FPS boost over the original tweak. running at a 10x7 res, I was getting 45 FPS in a place that I usually get 30.
     
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    I just recorded a video of Crysis with everything on very high and shadow and shaders on low, resolution is 1280x800. But the file is 1.08GB... video is about 2 mins...
     
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    Gotta try this on my desktop with an 8800gt. Lets see if it can offset the fact that its in a mATX case with a 400w PSU and a 4800+ that doesnt want to overclock due to my being cheap and having two no-name ram sticks in there at 533mhz. Paired with 2 gigs of 800mhz patriot. With 2 wifi cards and 5 (Acually 4 now, one decided to not let the computer its in start up. Thats always fun to diagnose) Hard Drives, a TV tuner, And a bunch of USB thingies. It's Amazing that it will turn on. But only gets 9000 in 3dmark06.

    If I make no sense, Im sorry, but its because I have been playing uplink for the past 48 hours. And Now that Onlink works with the steam version of Uplink, I have another 3 days to go.
     
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    Check the thread below out, I was like you looking to see how Crysis can run on a 8600M GT but couldn't find any so made a thread myself. It may give a idea of how things run without making any big changes.

    I found that right-clicking the game.exe and choosing to play it in DX9 mode gave me a better fps than playing it in DX10 mode even though I didn't have any of the very high settings turned on.

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=202642

    I'll have try of 'dmacfour's' tweak, sounds interesting.
     
  48. AmazingGracePlayer

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    From your screenshots of Crysis on DX9, the game looked pretty good. I guess it's kind of like comparing a $8000 dollar guitar with a $10000 one, there shouldn't be any significant difference. Maybe I should try that. Although I would rather sacrifice some frames or image quality for native resolution (1280x800)
     
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    i dont know really wtf is happening on this forum, i have Alienware m9750 dual 7950GTX and i get 18FPS on very high, so can anyone tell me how the hell could a mid end card get the same FPS of 7950GTX on SLi which is considered pwnest card in the universe for lappies?
     
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    Try switching your drivers, and check out the link on the first page to the very high Crysis tweak. It could improve your FPS at very high. or you could try overclocking, that increased my FPS by at least 10. Just remember that most of us are running at 1024x768.
     
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