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    Crysis 2: Lower system requirements then Crysis 1?

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by CokeCanNinja, Apr 23, 2010.

  1. CokeCanNinja

    CokeCanNinja Notebook Consultant

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    According to Crytek studios Crysis 2 will have lower, yes, I said lower system requirements then the original Crysis game, while still having better graphics. How is the possible you ask? I think it's the way the engine uses what your computer has. If this is true, it seems that by December 2010, pretty much all new computers will be able to play Crysis 2. I can't wait.
     
  2. aznofazns

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    Interesting. Link to source?
     
  3. CokeCanNinja

    CokeCanNinja Notebook Consultant

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    They are using a cross-platform engine this time around and will be focusing on 360/PS3 not PC. CryTek believes piracy is to blame for their horrible sales of Crysis 1.
     
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    So, will it be a ported one then? Even if it is, it will be a PS3 one I guess because of its rich Physx and details.
     
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    Highly doubt it. CryEngine 3 has integrated multi-threaded physics engine. Visually, 360 and PS3 are IDENTICAL. It's actually more advantageous for CryTek to port the 360 version to PC not PS3. PS3 is a mess.

    As for performance on lower requirements... My guess it will be like CryEngine 2. DX10 and DX9 looking the same but DX9 with better performance. My guess CryEngine 3 will be pushing the limits of DX9, for those who want to run it in DX10 or DX11, quality increase minimal.

    http://mycryengine.com/

    If you go there, to me it looks like CryTek has made some attempts to make the engine easier for developers to use. Since investing all this money like they did for CryEngine 2 and for no one using it except themselves for Crysis probably was not very profitable.

    The changes from CryEngine 2 to 3 to me is mostly optimization, so the engine is faster. Better destructible physics. Some improvements on lighting and shading, but not much as most of the dynamic lighting they have been showcasing with CryEngine 3 are already in CryEngine 2.
     
  8. kingtz

    kingtz Notebook Consultant

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    Hopefully it's not simply a direct console port...that'd suck for all the waiting fans. Ideally, they would optimize their engine, and hopefully no cheap tricks like smaller maps with a load point for every room... lol
     
  9. Amnesiac

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    It may have lower requirements, but the effects in game are apparently much worse. Some really shaved down effects include object motion blur, physics, shadow framerates, and lighting (Shaders). Not to mention that Cryengine 3 on Xbox 360 and PS3 specifically has no AA.
     
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    ryzeki Super Moderator Super Moderator

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    Actually, Crytek said they had no problems developing for PS3, and currently the cited that Crysis 2 runs better on PS3 than on Xbox360.

    Naturally, working with consoles meant working on a limited enviroment, which helped them realize what could be added, what could be removed, to improve performance and visual fidelity without depeding on raw hardware.

    PC version will be best, but the advantage of their engine is the capability to develop for both PS3, PC and Xbox360 easily.
     
  11. Exostenza

    Exostenza Notebook Evangelist

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    They created a platform where if you develop on it then your game will run on PC, 360 and PS3 so no one is porting anything. They are all native believe it or not. The game will be watered down and probably a bit of a disappointment for us that played the original, but at least we are getting something...

    They made the suit only have 2 modes because they thought more than that was too complicated for the console kiddies :)

    Games for the masses have to come from mediocrity to appeal to everyone. The larger the gaming industry gets the stupider and easier our games will be.
     
  12. CokeCanNinja

    CokeCanNinja Notebook Consultant

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    What!?! Two modes!!! I read somewhere that they had put the strength/speed modes together, and added a "tactical mode" that gave you a bunch of info on the enemy (how they died, rank, etc.) Or are you just talking about the console versions? If they make Crysis 2 suck just to make more money I might now buy it. I hate sellouts.
     
  13. SomeRandomDude

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    Graphics are pretty much the only reason to get Crysis. It's not like the gameplay is terribly innovative.
     
  14. jenesuispasbavard

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    Too complicated for the console kiddies? Wow.

    They took it down to two modes because no one was using the other two.... in the first game, on the PC...
     
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    Here's some info about the upcoming Crysis suit modes from ShackNews:
    Seems like the new combo modes will be more efficient.
     
  16. Kocane

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    What is the problem with then and than for some people?
     
  17. ziddy123

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    I used all the modes.... constantly.
     
  18. Ikuto

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    I 'tried' to use all modes but found myself using Strength and speed more so. Only due to the fact that when i cloaked the enemies saw me no matter if i was walking 3 inches past them or crouching in some bushes.
     
  19. tianxia

    tianxia kitty!!!

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    they didn't blame anything, crysis sales were above their expectations.
    they just want to make more money, an understandable decision.
     
  20. CokeCanNinja

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    You still have to use some stealth yourself, like walking a little slower, not going too close, using quieter guns, and trying stay out of their line-of-sight. It's not like you can run around blasting a rocket launcher at everything and not be noticed.
     
  21. BenLeonheart

    BenLeonheart walk in see this wat do?

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    I agree... Crysis is somewhere in between 3dMark06 and Vantage...
    Not a game anymore, just a benchmark...
    :D

     
  22. ziddy123

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    They could have made it into a fantastic game though. Extended the single player into a 10-15 hour campaign, not so much floating around though, remove that. Warhead had a nice pace, just too short.
     
  23. CokeCanNinja

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    Yeah, and make it a little bit harder. With the Nanosuit you can play through almost the whole game with out worrying about dieing.
     
  24. ryzeki

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    Thats because you played on easy :p Try the hardest difficulty and you will see how human flesh can take more damage than the nanosuit! :D
     
  25. CokeCanNinja

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    No, I didn't play it on easy. I cranked up the difficulty to max. Maybe you were too busy being distracted by the pretty graphics.
     
  26. funky monk

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    From what I understand, cryengine 3 will have less demands but also not be as capable as cryengine 2 although proportionally far superior. If you don't have to have a decent card to max it then they aren't taking advantage of new technology which I see as a dissapointment, it should be scaleable. Also, I agree that DX10 and DX11 probably won't make much difference here seeing as it's aimed more towards consoles which are limited to DX9, meaning far more work if they want to properly make use of DX11 and such.

    From the videos I've seen already, cryengine 3 looks worse compared to cryengine 2 although with the same computer you'd be able to get better effects with cryengine 3 since it's much more optimised. Cryengine 2 was a badly designed engine which looked INSANE if you could max it out with a gargantuan computer.
     
  27. CokeCanNinja

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    So basically CryEngine has a larger graphics range? It can run fine on lower power machines, but will still give powerful machines a decent workout? I'm probably misunderstanding you, but it seems like that is what you said.
     
  28. funky monk

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    No, the maxed out cryengine 2 looks nicer than cryengnine 3 at it's best although to max out cryengine 2 you need a godly PC.
     
  29. CokeCanNinja

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    Oh!! I get it. So the game will look good on a good computer, but don't look as good as Crysis 1 on a god computer. That's good, because I don't have a god computer.