Crysis on the ATI Mobility Radeon 2600 HD

You can see my laptop spec's in my signature.

I ran the Crysis SP Demo with 1280x800 resolution and all settings MEDIUM. The frame rate was around 7-30.

I made a quick little video of me playing it, recorded by Fraps so it actually runs a bit better than what is shown. Just uploading to YouTube so if your interested in what the Gateway M-6864FX can do or the ATI Mobility Radeon 2600 HD can do than please be patient.

 

sweet! would love to see it
+rep

 

I am going to download the demo today. Would be a good test to see whether CPUs have an effect on that game or not. I have T8300, 3GB and am running XP by the way.

 

It is only like 30 seconds but it is taking forever to upload on YouTube, sorry for the delay.

If the CPU makes a noticeable difference then I will go get a better CPU tommorow.

 

how do you like your gateway anyways?
is it built well? runs nice?

 

Absolutely love it, I wish it had a few things but for $750 you can't really argue lol, it is very sturdy and very well made.

 

yeah thats a hell of a deal for $750.

 

If you are only getting 7-30 fps at the begining of the game, then there is no way you will keep playable framerates all the way through the game (if that's what you consider playable). You will have to lower something.

I found Crysis much more enjoyable once I had sorted out the graphic settings so it runs smooth even when there is loads going on at any part of the game.

I've posted what I run Crysis at in your other thread.

 

Are you running in DX10 or 9? Have you updated your drivers? Maybe it's minor settings like particles and water detail that's giving you those spikes. I would also have to recommend running in DX9 if you want smooth gameplay with raised detail, aside from that you should be doing alot better with that set-up, hopefully the updated retail version brings performance up to par for you.

 

Check my signature for my laptop specs, I've been playing the Crysis SP Demo for about 4 hours now (beat it 3 times so far) and I notice my notebook getting really hot, I downloaded SpeedFan and it says:

Temp: 53C
Core 0: 79C (hitting 80Cs now)
Core 1: 79C (hitting 80Cs now)

What does this mean exactly, is it starting to overheat? Should I be worried? Also if I go to Best Buy and get one of those laptop cooler mats, how much would it actually help my laptop's temperature?

On resolution 1280x800 and most settings LOW and some on MEDIUM I run about 17-50 frame rates, average is around 20-30 frame rates. Is it true that the actually Crysis game runs smoother than the demo and the updates add like 5-10 more frame rate?

 

Ok I can now run Crysis SP Demo on resolution 1280x800, with most settings low and some medium (shader, water, sound, quality) I run around 15-30 frame rate without shader like 20-50. The lowest I have seen it drop is 14 but that was for a split second.

It says I'm running Direct X 10 how do I put it down to 9?

I think I update my driver, I went to ATI's site and download Catalyst 8.7

 

DX9 will give you an extra 5 fps, maybe more in my experience. To enable, right click on the Crysis icon in the Games folder (assuming the demo makes one) and select "Play DX9". You can customise the icon's default action so it plays DX9 without right clicking, but I'm on my XP desktop at the moment, so can't say exactly how; I think you select "Customize" after right-clicking on the icon.

 

I actually get lower frame rates running DX9 then DX10...

 

I just installed it, gona try it now.

Got a very important question though. X360progamer, whats your GPU temp? Because all the 8510p owners reckon that we are getting false readings. Mine idles at 19C!?!?! and tops out at 35C!

 

mine is normally around 20-40C but when i started playing Crysis it jumped to around 60-80C.

the main temp never went above 55C

*I NEED SOME DRIVER HELP*

I went to Crysis homepage and did the "Can You Run It" test and I passed which is good news but it says my driver is not the newest according to http://developer.amd.com/drivers/ccc/Pages/default.aspx according to the number I got I have Catalyst 8.2

How can and where can I update it? The more detailed the better!

 

That's strange. I'll have to try DX10 again, but I was sure I got a boost in performance (and looks the same at lower settings).

 

I usually sacrifice shader detail in crysis to play in DX10, but DX9 with shadows and shaders should look alot better for you.

Also, Texture detail is a freebie, set it to medium at least and you'll also want physics on medium or you won't be able to tear things apart.

Not sure how Ati cards work but if you have a control panel make sure AA isn't enabled or any other setting like it.

 

That is unbelievably cool. But doesn't the 8510p underclock the HD 2600? When I run with PowerPlay set to maximum battery life I get around 30 degrees (underclocks core to 250mhz). Otherwise, with a cooling pad and overclock I get 52 degrees max on a normal day (on a very hot day I got 54, but that's the hottest I've seen it). The HD 2600 does run at very impressive temperatures compared to the recent nVidia cards.

There is also no noticable difference in quality between low and medium textures from what I've seen ( Gamespot comparison). For better textures, you're better off increasing the shader quality on the surface you want to improve using the command console. I explained at bit about the command console and settings in this thread, but it is also on TweakGuides.

 

Johnny T, how is it running?

 

Crysis is like the omega of stressing games it doesnt max my cpu out but it sure does the video card. 80c is in the safe zone for the cpu, but hot for my taste I would want a cooling pad to try and get it more near 70c.

The full version is just as bad as the demo btw, you can try the tripple c pack and see how that treats you. I get about 30fps with it on the low/med setting with the TOD patch. I think it looks better than all medium wich is what I used before to get 30fps.

 

CPU is fine, if you want, you can try abit of undervolting. Head over to NBR cooling central for some tips. Also download HWmonitor as I am very interested in GPU temps.

 

Nope, do you have the latest BIOs update from HP? Its should restore the core/mem clocks to 500/600. Overclocking to 600/700 is no problem. Perfectly stable. I run it at 620/720 whilst gaming.

Also, i got around 20-25 fps, 1280x800 all medium. Perfectly smooth. No drops in FPS or hikes.

 

I have a Toshiba A210 (500/400 default DDR2). I just heard the HP 8510p used to be underclocked. What's the maximum temperature you get when overclocking to play Crysis?

 

I tried to upload videos after i recorded with Fraps but every upload site says failed to convert...

I wonder how you got 20-25 frame rate with 1280x800 all medium. I can't get that unless some stuff is low...

 

My clocks are 620 core /720 mem.

 

Crysis is the pinnacle of graphics right now for PC games but unless you have a super gaming rig you can't really show off Crysis' graphical power, so technically for people with a semi gaming rig (mine) or a normal gaming rig is it really the pinnacle of graphics?

I don't thinks so, I've been trying to get Crysis to run smooth on my laptop for awhile now with out overclocking my GPU/CPU but the most I can get it to is LOW to MEDIUM settings, even though it still looks good I personally think that overall Call of Duty 4 maybe one of the top graphical games, not only does it look just as good as Crysis on LOW-MEDIUM settings but it also runs better on normal gaming rigs, I can run Call of Duty 4 on 1280x800 resolution and everything on HIGH-MAX settings.

I have heard that they rushed Crysis and that is why it is not optimized for most gaming rigs and that Crysis: Warhead will be a lot smoother for all gaming rigs.

What do you think?

(P.S. - in Crysis what are the most frame rate slowing ones? Ex. Shadows, Shaders, Water, Particles, etc.)

 

Crysis was pretty poorly optimised, I played through the Tank and Alienship mission last night, and my god it was amazing, watching the landslide while I fought enemy tanks, in the background it looked blurred and 2D, but that was the effect Very High was giving me, zooming in I could see the rocks falling down way in the background.

The Alienship? O_O zero gravity was never so awesome, the aliens are animately so nicely and when they lunge at you motion blur makes it look so cool! like a CG movie! Lets hope Warhead is much more optimised? it sounds like it is!

Running ALL Very High here btw! n_n

PS: Shaders and shadows slow Crysis down the most, playing on High and Very High, the amount of object popin difference was crazy, on High rocks would popin a few meters infront of me, in Very High they would just be there, and more detailed too!

 

Crysis does not fully utilize the GPU nor the CPU, you're right in that it was def. rushed out to the masses and the code has alot of kinks to be hammered out

 

actually, I think the game runs amazingly great for how much it puts out. this game on average scenes runs about 2.5 million polys per frame, which is several times higher than most other games. On some scenes crysis actual renders up to 6 million polys.

On my single 8800GT 512mb desktop card, this one here, I get very smooth and playable framerates on maximum details (all very high) . The key is running in XP, you'll get about 40% extra FPS and less load times. I play in 1920x1080 with all very high graphics on my single card setup and still get over 30fps avg. I hear reviews doing things like quad SLI, or quad crossfire with abysmal results, but they're all running in vista.

But I really do think that that for the amount of detail coming out of crysis, it's actually just right, I think the low end settings like medium can obviously be optimized because that should be the setting for medium rigs like yours, and should be able to do medium settings in your max res smoothly..

 

I tried 1280x800 resolution and all settings on MEDIUM but it became almost unplayable when in combat, mind you this is only the demo so the actual game may be worse or better.

 

I still reccomend to everyone, just try it, dual boot with XP, and try Crysis, once you see how much better it will run, you'll probebly then test all of your other games, and after seeing that increase in fps, overall load times and smoothness, you'll probebly never go back to vista. And if you liked vista for it's interface, the nice sleek taskbar, and aero interface, then get Windowsblinds, it offers the exact same look but with NO performance drop.

 

Retail is better optimized than the demo. Considering they coded 8000 shaders for Crysis I would say the game is not unoptimized.

I heard the same stories when Far Cry was released, no rig could play it on max at first.

Seriously if you want better performance optimize the game yourself or download already finished configs for the game.

I mean I fixed a config for my old XPS M170 and that is with Medium settings all the way through running at 1280x800 on a Single Core 2.13GHz CPU and a go 7800 GTX overclocked to 446/1200 in XP with an average framerate of 30 fps in the benchmark test.

So you see you can squeeze so much peformance out of the game if you just know how to do it, or just plain experiment some, nothing can go wrong with that.

Nothing wrong with Vista, though I prefer XP but run it on my laptop, desktop I dual boot though. But performance wise Vista is not behind anymore. Also of course that depends on how you optimize "Your" Vista for "Your" computer.

 

With the specs in my signature (desktop), which are middle end specs, I can run Crysis comfortably with all settings on high with 2xAA at 1440 x 900, I can also run Crysis on Very High without the 2xAA at around the same performance level.

Anything less than what I have and you will have problems.

 

I can run Call of Duty 4 on MAX settings but for some reason I just played the Crysis demo again and on DX10, resolution 1280x800, and ALL SETTINGS LOW I get 15-30 frame rate...

 

Run it in DX9 instead. Your GPU is not a strong DX10 GPU.

 

Even in DX9 it stil runs pretty badly...

 

I would try running on a lower resolution, like 1024x768, this will allow you to increase graphics detail.

 

1024x768 runs about the same as 1280x800 when they are both on MEDIUM, it is playable but in combat the frame rate drops to 10 and sometimes below.

 

Call of Duty 4 on max? lol that's nothing!

I just got to the final boss in Crysis, looking at it it was very playable, but turning around turned it into a slideshow, hell the mission kept seizing up for a few seconds, still looked amazing, the end of the game the only time I get serious FPS problems!

 

Well no seizing on my desktop 8800 GTX at 1440x900 Still holds 30 fps at that very last boss scene and this with DX9 Very High in XP

 

Hey! Is windows blinds free?!

 

I have a question about the Crysis demo.
When I downloaded it, an icon was never put on my desktop for it, so to play, I need to go into my Programs folder. I can play it by going into the Bin32 folder or the Bin64. Is one DX9 and one DX10? Or is it 32bit vista and 64bit vista?

Also, (off subject) when I go to My Computer, there are two Program Files folders. One regular and one x86. The x86 is the one that seems to have everything I downloaded. (Demos and what not)

Any different between the two?...

Thanks..

 

The x86 is for programs installed on 32 bit.
The regular Program Files stores programs on 64 bit.

 

thank you.

 

A few more settings I've tried with the Crysis demo.

DX10
AA Off
all MEDIUM

lowest frame rate 7-8
average frame rate 10-12
highest frame rate 20

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DX10
AA Off
all MEDIUM except for shaders/shadows/post processing on LOW

lowest frame rate 13-14
average frame rate 14-16
highest frame rate 32

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DX10
AA Off
all LOW except for shaders/water/sound/objects on MEDIUM

lowest frame rate 10
average frame rate 13-15
highest frame rate 22

I seriously think somethings up with my GPU

Unless the updated retail version is better this game might not be playable unless in all LOW

 

What is the specs of your rig? DX10 won't make a difference if you aren't playing on Very High.

The demo is poorly optimised I think, well compared to the full game patched up it is.

 

All the spec's are in my signature.

 

Oh, I thought you were talking about a gaming rig in your OP! Mis-understood!

Well, Crysis is pretty GPU bound, and your card being a laptop card and all "to me I don't think it's that great" would limit your performance on higher settings, I'd play it safe on DX9 mode for a start.

My old 6600 gt, AMD sempron 3100+ and 1GB of RAM played it better than your lower settings, try optimising your laptop or something?

 

Wow what the heck is wrong with my laptop then...

 

Optimise everything you can, Vista included. I would recommend the Triple C pack, but on my old rig on Level 1 "low end tweak" it killed my framerate completely.

On my new rig I selected "ultra" for "next gen hardware" and again, it killeed my framerate and nothing changed except colours at sunrise.