Crysis+DX10 and M1210

Can i play crysis which is made for Dx10 graphic cards on my M1210 which has
nvidia 256 MB and DX9 support ?
I know that crysis is not out yet but the question is if someone can play dx10 games on dx9 supported graphic cards ?
Thanks
fritz40

 

Dx9 cards will probably run dx10 games though not with dx10 eye-candy. Also you probably will have to turn resolution and/or details way down.

 

Thanks CeeNote.I understand that the meaning of probably is that it is not sure ?

 

Well, since the game is not out yet, no one knows on which settings/resolution the go7400 will be able to run Crysis.

 

Ok I will wait until then and seach the forum again to get an answer .
Thank you very much .

 

doubt you'll have much luck. crysis should be a preeetttty demanding game and a 7400 isn't exactly hot stuff

 

You're welcome.

 

Maybe Crysis can be played in DX9 mode, just like Call of Duty 2 can either be played in DX9 or DX7 mode for less powerful video cards.

 

im not sure crysis is going to run at all on a 64 mb 7400

 

nvidia go 7400 goes up to 256 mb shared with memory . I have 2 gb of memory .
Will this be ok ?

 

I doubt Crysis will run on the Go7400 and if it does, it's going to look like absolute trash.

 

OK i see . No crysis on my XPS M1210.
Thanks anyway .

 

This thread is appalling to me, it's misinformation at its worst.

The fact is that we can't know what Crysis will require, just speculate. We do know that the engine supports rendering in DX10, DX9, and...DX8 (check CryTek's site if you don't believe me.) What's the fastest DX8 video card? GeForce 4 Ti 4600. And let's be honest: a Go 7400 really does pound the tar out of that.

nVidia's TurboCache is efficient for what it does. No, it's not ideal, but your XPS M1210 isn't going to run it like total garbage. You'll likely have to turn a lot of settings down, but your system isn't the minimum they're aiming for. It should be plenty playable.

 

Thank you pulp . I am sorry if i opened a thread which is premature and without facts .
We will talk about again when crysis will be released .
Thanks again to all of you .

 

Just because it supports dx8 doesn't mean Dx8 cards are going to be any good at running the game. It could just be a path for users who prefer to squeeze higher fps out of their cards, if they're on the end of the supported list. It doesn't mean all dx8 cards are supported, or will run the game anyway decently.

I played HL2 briefly with a Geforce 2 - a dx7 card - in dx7 mode, and could still barely manage all low settings, all options on low. Again, just because it was possible to run the game in that path, didn't mean it was going to work anyway decently with a dx7 card.

And I wouldn't say the Ti4600 is that crippled compared to the Go7400 - sure the 7400 supports alot newer features and hence more games but in games that both cards support fully, there's not a huge margin of difference.

 

havok isn't lying. just meeting the 'minimum' requirements for these newer games is no where near playable.....

 

I don't think crysis is playable on a 7400.

I am pretty sure either the minimum or recommended settings started at Pentium D or X2 with an x1600 or 7600 or better. Just not sure if that was recommended or minimum.


edit:

Wow i just found the recommended requirements:
X2 or Pentium D
7800gtx or x1800xt
1.5gb ram
6gb HDD space
512+ internet
DX10 + windows vista

and minimum (looks like i won't be playing on my x1400 and looks like x1600/7600 almost can't play):
AMD 64 3000+ , Intel P4 2.8ghz+
6600/x800GTO
768mb/1gb ram
6gb HDD space
256k+ internet
DX9.0c + windows XP

 

link1313 , nice search . Now i'am sure that my go 7400 won't play the game .
So i will play it only on my desktop.

 

Crysis WILL run on the M1210:

Upon review of all remarks in this thread and review of requirements from the publishers website (see requirements from the publishers website below), the M1210 with the 7400 turbo cache WILL run Crysis (according to the publishers requiremnts). However, you may need 2GB of RAM, as the turbocache will access your system RAM. 1 GB may really slow things down.

Yes, it may not be in FULL HIGH SETTINGS, but you will be able to enjoy the game on this laptop. If you play on the 12.1 screen on the laptop, lower settings will not be as crucial when playing. In fact, they will look good on the smaller screen. When you connect to a larger screen, you will notice the lower settings more.

Don't forget, the 7400 is NOT "OLD TECHNOLOGY". These game publishers cannot make money if they lock everyone out of the game with ridiculous machine spec. requirements. They cannot afford to sell to only a narrow section of the market.

The M1210 with the Turbocache 7400 also exceeds the shader requirement for Crysis. The 7400 has DirectX 9.0 shader model 3.0 with HDR. Minimum for Crysis is 2.0.

Although small, the Dell M1210 is still state of the art. Yes, its size has drawbacks - such as a partially cached video card, but it is still a dedicated GPU. OK, its not a game killer or the machine that a die hard gamer would want for everyday use, but it will more than get you by on the road or if you want an ultra portable gaming machine and you accept lower settings.

This said, to date there are no direct X10 compliant notebooks or notebook GPUs presently available. So, if you are truly concerned about future games and Direct X10 (Crysis will work with Direct x9), you will have to wait until June of 2007 or later for these notebook bad boys. No manufacturer I can find has a definitive relase date published. They are still working on MOBO development along with mobile GPU.

Therefore, full use of Direct X10 deployment will be slower then expected, as you can see from a mobile hardware standpoint. Quite honeslty, the REAL use of direct X10 will be more towards 2008 for mobile users. So, if you really want a laptop now, go get one or you could wait another 5 months for initial DX10 release, or better yet, 8-12 months for more refined mobile directX 10 designs.

As for the Dell M1210 - this is the most ultra portable gamer available if you can settle for lower resolution settings on some games.

Crysis Minimum Requirements
CPU: Athlon 64 3000+/Intel 2.8ghz
Graphics: Nvidia 6200 or ATI X1300 - Shader Model 2.0
RAM: 768MB on Windows XP or 1GB on Windows Vista
HDD: 6GB
Internet: 256k+
Optical Drive: DVD
Software: DX9.0c with Windows XP

Crysis Recommended Requirements
CPU: Dual-core CPU (Athlon X2/Pentium D)
Graphics: Nvidia 7600 or ATI X1600 Pro (SM 3.0) or DX10 equivalent
RAM: 1.5GB+
HDD: 6GB
Internet: 512k+ (128k+ upstream)
Optical Drive: DVD
Software: DX9.0c with Windows XP

I Hope this honest and reference supported reply clarifies earlier remarks by others. - GENUINEGI

 

Thank you very much genuinegi for your reply Now i feel much better .

 

Fritz, what are the stats on your desktop?

 

Thanks for the update gen.

On a side note I hate people who make reviews about things and then post fake results, especially when its about tech stuff. I thought those original requirements I posted were reputable because it included a 4 page preview...

Honestly the people who go to great lengths to create fake reviews (i.e. fake R600 benchmark reviews + 12 pages we all remember that) actually have no life whatsoever.

I'll end the rant =/ , sorry for posting fake ones and thanks for finding real ones.

 

anticipated system requirements:

http://www.crysis-online.com/Information/System%20Requirements/

 

I should probably note that notebook GPUs are underpowered compared to their desktop equivalents. So when they say a desktop X1300 vanilla, that's pretty much a Go 7400 or Mobility X1400 in mobile terms. The desktop X1600Pro is also faster than most Mobility X1600s and Go 7600.

The good thing though is that Core Duos and Core 2 Duos are very strong gaming chips, especially compared to Pentium 4s, so that'll help a bit at lower resolutions.

 

IT Commander -

You make a very good statement concerning core 2 duo technology. Many people posting comments comparing one machine and GPU to another are still using older CPU technology (mobile or otherwise). As this thread is concerning the M1210, we must point out that the older M1210 configurations had a choice of core 2 duo or not. In fact, if you go to the Dell outlet to buy a refurb. or scratch and dent, look carefully. Most units listed have the core 2 duo and a very few do not. I almost bought a unit without and caught myself in time.

The core 2 duo will offer processor performance beyond strong desktop models from less than a year ago. Mobile CPUs truly ROCK from a energy usage, heat and performance standpoint. This CPU along with a dedicated GPU (the Go 7400 found in the M1210) will offer a pretty good gaming combination in such a tiny package. Once again, it is not a "Game Killer" or the ultimate gaming notebook, but it will suffice in almost all gaming cases to date (you can tweak the game graphic setting to adjust to your best performance and visual - may not all be on high settings, but that is a trade-off for such a compact and portable unit).

If someone is shopping right now for a true hardcore gaming notebook, you would have to wait another 5 to 7 months for a DX10 unit, and probably a year before a unit the size of a M1210 is available with DX10 support.

And for me ....

XPS M1210: Intel Core 2 Duo Processor T7400 (2.16GHz/667MHz/4MB) Genuine Windows Vista Ultimate
Bluetooth Wireless Card 355
SKYPE Software for For A/V Communications Pack
12.1 in Notebook Screen (Intg. web cam, Mobile Broadband Antenna,)
160 GB SATA Hard Drive (5400RPM)
Scratch & Dent
1500 Wireless Card
ISP Search Assist
8X DVD +/- RW w/dbl layer write capability
2 GB DDR2 SDRAM 677MHz (2 DIMMs)
6 Cell Primary Battery
256MB NVIDIA GeForce Go 7400 TurboCache

(saved almost $1,200.00 - seriously, from Dell Outlet. Took 5 days continual checking before the right combo came available. Downside - 5400 RPM, Upside, 160 GB & saved $1,200.00. Also, read tech studies of newer SATA 5400RPM drives versus current 7200RPM drives. Yes, 7200 is quicker, but the newer 5400 are so close behind speed and access wise, the milliseconds difference is miniscule. I still cannot believe I got a Vista Ultimate machine with these specs for the price I did. The off-the-shelf price of Vista Ultimate alone is almost 1/3 the cost of what I paid for the entire machine)

FYI to those who will only buy new: Search for "Dell Coupon" or "Dell Coupon Codes" online. Two years ago I bought my first XPS notebook. I stumbled upon some 35% off Dell Coupon codes for the XPS on couponmountain.com (there are many more newer better updated sites now). I did not believe that A 35% coupon could be for real. Sure enough, it knocked off %35 in the check-out on my Dell XPS notebook. So, I went back and "Full Featured" the notebook and got what I wanted at a great price without a hardware sacrafice. This coupon was available in mid August when Dell tries to get all of the college bound to buy their first Dell .... and become Dell customers for life. You may or may not still find these coupons during that period? .... just worth mentioning. These discounts can be more common on non-XPS units. I think Dell has slowed the discounts available on XPS's - as these units offer greater margin for Dell.

Hope these remarks help any and and all interested in the M1210. - Genuinegi