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    DDR2 HD2600 OC Results

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by notyou, Nov 9, 2007.

  1. notyou

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    As per the title, I have done some fairly extensive testing on the capabilities of this card in my Toshiba A200-TH7 (specs in sig). If I have forgotten something, please let me know so that I may edit this post to include it.

    Again, if I've forgotten something, please let me know so that I can update this post so that people can get some definite information. Hope this thread has helped you understand the power of the HD2600, now only if I had the DDR3 version & access to voltages....maybe not.

    EDIT: new Crysis results.
    Tests done at 1280x800 w/ fullscreen option checked, no AA, and in DX10 mode (as who doesn't want to shoot down a tree and suicide when it falls on them?)
    First: No OC, All LOW Settings: Min/Max/Avg
    12/33/26
    Second: No OC, All MED Settings except for Object Quality=LOW (as it can only be changed right after the game is first started): Min/Max/Avg
    4/19/14
    Thirdly (This was just for fun): All VERY HIGH Settings w/ 8x AA: Min/Max/Avg
    <1/4/1

    OC Results (All settings cranked up to where it would be the best but provide adequate fps): Min/Max/Avg
    6/29/20 at settings:
    Texture Quality: Very High
    Object Quality: Medium
    Shadows Quality: Medium
    Physics Quality: Medium
    Volumetric Effects Quality: Medium
    Game Effects Quality: Very High
    PostProcessing Quality: Medium
    Particles Quality: Medium
    Water Quality: Very High
    Sound Quality: Very High

    The min fps was achieve while moving and twisting at the flare found a minute or two into the demo. Aside from major particle scenes, these settings were very playable.
     
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    Very nice. thanks. Looks like the 2600 has a lot of potential.

    Hopefully Crysis will be optimized just a little bit more before the final release, just days away.
     
  4. notyou

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    We can always hope for more optimization. Would've been nice if ATI put higher voltages through this thing, then we could really see it fly. And I wish I had the DDR3 version now to see how high I could get that thing, but if I did, then I wouldn't study for my midterm on Tues because I'd be too busy benching for you guys. Doing this one already was more than what I wanted to do, but the people come first.
     
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    thanks, nice scores.
     
  6. Destiny

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    The scores are not that impresive... I was expecting a bit more... Yet I guess Your CPU is a limit here since its 'just' 1.6GHz.
     
  7. notyou

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    Yeah, but still, for a mediocre gaming laptop it sure handles itself well.
     
  8. Zam

    Zam Notebook Consultant NBR Reviewer

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    I hope someone can figure out how to overclock the 2600 in the 8510p as well
     
  9. notyou

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    Does AMD GPU Clock Tool not work? How about ATI Tool/ATI Tray Tools/Rivatuner?
     
  10. supadupa

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    Awesome stuff. Thanks for the scores.
    I am too looking forward for someone to unlock 8510p's potential. I dont think anyone was sucessful with any of those tools... yet.
     
  11. Roby86

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    I've set my HD2600 DDR2 to 650/513...so, I'm just testing...could you tell me which component is more important : core or memory??

    And, why after I set core and memory to desired, after restart I get stock 500/400? I'm using that AMD GPU tool 0.7,that "notyou" said...

    Thanks...

    Cheers...
     
  12. blackbird

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    They are both important.

    The OC is a driver level oc meaning it will be set to default clocks after a restart, driver change/uninstal/reinstall/update. Im not familiar with amd gpu tool as I have a nvidia card but i think it should have an option to apply your clocks at windows startup
     
  13. notyou

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    Personally, I would rather have the clocks reset as I only need the clocks when I'm gaming but I guess it would be a good feature if others wanted the clocks to stay.
    PS. There is a new(?) version of ATI Tray Tools out now (dated Nov 5), maybe that will make a difference.
     
  14. deattan

    deattan Notebook Geek

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    Im only able to run my hd2600 at ~ 600/500 scoring about 3.3k (about 450p increase from defaults) on 3dmark on Asus F3Ka (with the AMD cpu).
    Normal or should i reach higher clocks?
     
  15. notyou

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    I would certainly think that the core could go higher (look at mine, 730 stable) but expect freezes to occur as you try to OC it high though. I had weird results as I said in my first post (would freeze, forcing restart but next time it would clock higher, odd huh?).
     
  16. deattan

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    Very odd indeed. I'll boot and try it now if i'd have better luck this time.

    Oh, and mine does not actually freeze or anything, just isn't stable.

    EDIT: Tried at range between 650-700, wouldn't even try. Near 650 card goes "offline" for a while and resets clocks. Then freezes near 700.
     
  17. notyou

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    It seems I got me a gem then, now only if I could replace the DDR2 mem w/ some GDDR3 stuff. Hardware modification and warranty voidification, not to mention the very likely destruction of the universe for the win!
     
  18. Exodemia

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    Is AMD GPU Clock tool the best tool for overclocking a HD2600 DDR2 with then? I'm going to be overclocking mine when I get it.
     
  19. notyou

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    It is the only one that I found that worked (even if the clocks didn't stay after a restart) but I haven't tried the new(?) ATI Tray Tools (dated Nov 5) and I don't think I will as I've always seemed to have BSODs for the weirdest reasons (resetting my clocks to default, closing the program, etc).
     
  20. deattan

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    Tried newest ati trays. Gave me a heps of bsod and reboots.
    Also messing with settings in ccc, which i basically don't like. I like to have control over things in one place rather than two. :p
     
  21. Exodemia

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    Hmm not too sure if it's worth overclocking then. I'd want to use overclocking profiles etc. Has anyone tried RivaTuner?
     
  22. notyou

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    I had tried it but it didn't allow me to even see any of the OCing options and that's why I've stuck with the AMDGPUCT.
     
  23. Exodemia

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    Hmm well I will give the AMD GPU a go. Doesn't it have an apply settings at startup option?
     
  24. notyou

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    Unfortunately no, but that's the price you pay (for now) for getting to OC.
     
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    I've tried adding into Vista Manager startup entry AMD Clock GPU...but nothing happens...he just shows me the main window after the boot into Vista. I don't know should I put it as startup/all users or registry/all users

    It works stable at 730/570. Everest Ultimate Edition shows me only 45-46 C, and 55 C after about 2 hours of Crysis. :)

    [​IMG]
     
  26. Exodemia

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    Wow nice overclock Roby! What laptop have you got, specs?
     
  27. notyou

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    You lucky bastard, I wish my memory could go that high. Was that with a cooler/Arctic Silver/? And was it 3dmark06 stable? I ask the 3dmark as I found that mine had to go down a fair bit to not artifact during the deep freeze test in 3dmark while it was perfectly stable about 50mhz higher during CSS.
    EDIT: If it was with a cooler, I'll bet that mine can outdo yours (I'll post some pics of it later)
     
  28. Roby86

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    My lap :

    Toshiba A210-128
    AMD Turion X2 TL-56(1.83)
    Ati Radeon HD2600 256 MB DDR2
    200 GB Toshiba(5400 rpm)
    1.3 MP Camera

    This laptop is 2 months old, I've got warranty of 2 years so I cannot touch anything inside. No cooler/Artic Silver! Factory fan inside only... :) I haven't tested it on 3dMark06 yet, I'll post soon results.
     
  29. Exodemia

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    OMG I'm going to die! I'm getting a Toshiba A210-11P like tomorrow with basically the same specs! That means I'll be able to overclock like mad hehe :D have you overclocked your CPU too?
     
  30. Roby86

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    Nope, I'm justing testing it on undervolt...AMD Turion has little bit higher temperatures than Core 2 Duo...now it's working on 1.075 ...just testing on 0.95.. ;)
     
  31. Exodemia

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    Ok Roby keep me informed on your progress. If possible start a thread on both your HD 2600 overclocking and CPU undervolting or overclocking, what you did to achieve it and some benchmarks and screenshots too. Would be really beneficial and informative :)
     
  32. Roby86

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    Ok, soon I'll write whole thread...when I test this...for about a week...when I see it's stable.

    Cheers... :cool:
     
  33. Exodemia

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    Not tonight? :(
     
  34. Yokozuna

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    I have a TL-56, and I'm running it at .95v. It's completely stable at .95v running at 1.8Ghz. You might even get it down to .9v. I got mine down to .9v, and it ran stable for most things, but I did get some BSOD's when gaming, so I've settled on .95v.
     
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    How much less heat does it produce then?
     
  36. Roby86

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    About 5-6 C...
     
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    Wow quite a lot then. And what settings do you play Crysis on?
     
  38. Exodemia

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    Hey that's not fair Roby. Your Toshiba is basically identical to mine but you get the High Brightness display and I don't :( lol. But I do get a 6 in 1 card reader and you only get 5 in 1. But I'd rather have the High Brightness display :(
     
  39. notyou

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    Based on my own testing, I could run Crysis at 1280x800 w/ medium settings in DX10 mode at about 20 fps.
     
  40. Exodemia

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    In DX10 mode? I think in DX9 mode you'd getter a better number of FPS right?
     
  41. notyou

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    I tested w/out OC (I think) recently and I only got a few (<5 I believe) fps difference.
     
  42. Exodemia

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    Ah interesting. I don't think I'll buy Crysis as good a game as it is. I think I'll pick up CoD 4.
     
  43. notyou

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    To each his own. But you have to admit, when the hardware catches up it will be amazing. For now though, I'll stick to my good ol' Age of Empires 2: Conquerors as it's the best RTS ever made.
     
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    The AoE series is the best RTS series ever, I prefer the old school ones though as they're more fun :)
     
  45. notyou

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    Definitely, 2 included all the stuff they should have done in the first and 3 just sucks since it's not even AOE anymore. Anyways, this thread has gotten far enough off topic so let's now try to keep it in relation to the 2600.
     
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    Added new Crysis information to end of first post.
     
  47. deattan

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    My clocks weren't even stable enough. It ran CoD about half an hour, then reseted 'em.
     
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    wow u got pretty good results.....im running on a fujitsu n6460 with a t5250(1.5 POS), 2600 DDR3, and 2 gb's of ram, the furthest clock i got on mine was 800/700 but it seems to be a bit unstable....

    snybody got this laptop and got better results?
     
  49. deattan

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    I guess my highest stables are somewhere around 570/470.
    Seems a bit low '-'
    Something in bios maybe?
     
  50. notyou

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    Check whether you have it set to max battery in the CCC, it shouldn't be. Otherwise, have you just raised the core only to see how far it could go, if you have, then it could be that your cooling is just maxed out.
     
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