DX10 on a 14.1" notebook?

I don't know if it's been asked before, but I couldn't find the answer anyhows, so... Does anyone know if the Go8600 will be put into a 14.1" laptop? If not, then does anyone know an approximate timeline for getting DX10 graphics into a 14.1" laptop? I was hoping for this summer, but it's looking more and more like I might have to wait for 65nm cards, which won't be until the fall at the very earliest.

 

Nvidia should be releasing the Go 8400/8300 this year I think

 

The first 15'4" laptops with the go8600 are starting to be listed in shops.
Look here http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=119191

15'4" and 14'1" is not a big differance so I do think they will make them. I think you can expect Asus to upgrade the A8 and clevo the hgl 30. Both companies normaly are on fast with lunching new technology.

 

I have heard that the a8 with the 8600 doesnt come out until august.

You want just a dx 10 gpu or a mid range one? Because the dell 630 should have like a 8300 or 8400 as well as like dv 2000 and many more.

Theres also a asus built 14 inch model that dell is introducing in june. Its extremely likely that has a dx 10 card.

 

I was hoping for a DX10 card that at least equaled the performance of say a Go7700, as in the A8JS. I don't know if the 8400 will match that, but I doubt it. (Let me know if I'm wrong).

 

Oh well

You should look for a model called f81

what it is is the 14 inch version of todays g1. August. When the new a8 comes out it will have a regular and a "gamer" version, with the eyeball and the fake carbon fiber and the backpack of the g1 and g2. It will be in the 1700-1800$ range

Thats if the one asus is making for dell isnt almost the same thing, something like a xps 1210.

As far as other than asus making a 14 inch gaming notebook, well thats why dell is paying them to make 1 million 14 inch notebooks I would theorize. But it might not turn out that way.

There will be a hgl 30 refresh also. But that will be AFTER the new a8j in august.

 

I don't know, haven't people been saying the GeForce Go 8600 is going to be performance equivalent to the GeForce 7900GS? If that is the case, it seems possible a GeForce 8400 might be on par with a GeForce 7600/7700.

 

http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=113101&page=5

check the post about half way down by Rene (works at zepto).

the next version of the Znote 6214w will be the 6224w - 14.1", 8600 512mb

 

This is exactly what I'm after too - 14.1" with a decent gaming card - Go8600+ would be perfect. Wish it was faster than August though (whine whine).

Petrov.

 

Those are made by compal, right?

 

no, lots of people assume their rebranded compal's. but infact their not, made 100% by zepto

 

speaking of zepto here is a short review of one with a go8600!!!!!
http://www.zeptoforum.com/QuickRev/index.htm

sorry it is in german again but you will get the idea!!!

 

Hmm if that's true then my go 7900GTX is way faster then this go8600. I knew my gpu would be faster, but i didn't expected such big difference.

 

It is a 100% jump compared to the x1700 or go7700. Considering driver support is still lacking I would think it can get up to 4500 if tweaked.

 

Yes, but remember that 3dMark06 is a DX9 program. If you were comparing the Go8600 and the your 7900GTX on a game or benchmark that took advantage of the DX10 abilities of the Go8600, the gap would probably be less significant.

 

they are made by compal.

They are not the same as the computers sold under the compal brand. Zepto does sell the hel 80 though.

I asked the zepto representative

zepto is not a computer manufacturer. computers are not made in denmark using cheap danish labor. All notebooks are made in the far east, all meaning 100%
It is just like dell, this model is made by compal for zepto like compal makes the e1405 for dell. I could even tell you the story of this model because i remember last year i was going to import one.

It was made as an acer aspire but compal sold it to zepto for financial reasons after the order was cancelled. All this means is zepto didnt actually design it...
You can even look at the motherboard it says acer right on it. I think it even says acer somewhere in the bios.
The orignal color, one model before yours, was in acer grey and black If you were to look at the aspire 5670 youd see its long lost cousin.

Acer went with the benq joybook instead so it wouldnt compete with itself it buried this model.
Evesham sells that model also in europe.

 

That's what I thought. BTW, the Compal HEL-80 is the Znote 2425W, right?

 

the 6214w is absolutely not a rebranded compal. its the 2425w (as odin243 stated) that is the rebranded one

 

Asus guys, MilestonePC has reported that the A8 and G1 will be updated with the Go 8600 cards in a month, and the rest of the lineup (V1/V2/U1/F3/VX2/etc.) will have DX10 updates by July or August.

That's according to some of the Asus gurus on the forums who are in frequent contact, but of course, nothing is certain. Stamar, I doubt the A8 will be delayed with DX10 until July; late May or early June would be the most logical course of action for Asus.

 

I've heard that the 8600 is crap as compared to the 6600 and 7600 (mobile parts pretty much mirror their desktop counterparts in a relative fashion). I'd stay away from it unless you REALLY need DX10 and are willing to take the performance hit.

 

I really am not so sure that the performance of the desktop 8600GT can be said to have any bearing on the performance of the mobile 8600.

Other people have been saying that, performace-wise, the mobile 8600 is on par performance wise with the 7900GS, which would be very impressive in a 15" laptop.

I think we'll need to wait for actual benchmarks and gaming performance though to know for sure (not to mention actual DX10 games).

 

No one's saying it's a rebranded Compal whitebook, we're just saying the computer was made by compal, just as compal makes computers for dell and others.

That test looks extremely suspect to me, as the drivers used are known to provide limited performance on DX10 chips, especially the 8600. I would wait until good, optimized drivers are out, as well as DX10 benchmarking programs/games to judge how the 8600GT fares against it's predecessor. Also, as mentioned above, the performance of the 8600GT doesn't necessarily have much to do with the performance of the Go8600, as we do not yet know what optimizations/cutbacks have been made to the mobile chip. Also, the current mobile offerings by Nvidia (Go7600) are so inferior to the desktop 7600GT that even if the desktop 8600 isn't a great improvement, the mobile chip could well be.

 

It is not the one sold under the compal brand, the hgl 30.

It is made by compal the same company that makes the hgl 30. Compal is the second largest manufacturer of notebooks in the world.

Their main business is making the dell inspiron and the acer aspire.

If you are wondering who manufactured your computer, contact a zepto representative. I went through all the trouble of typing out the models entire history for you but if it isnt computing go ahead and ask zepto who makes the chassis for the zepto znote 6214

 

This cards DX10 but seems as if it'll be pretty weak.

 

Why do you say that? It's in the _600 series, and by all indications it will be at the very minimum faster than the 7600/7700, so I wouldn't call it weak. Preliminary reports say that it gets 4000+ in 3dmark06.

 

anyone know what its effect on battery life is (the 8600)? If the G1 does get refreshed with one, would its battery most likely decrease?increase?stay the same?

 

Stamar and odin243, you are both wrong the 6214W isn't made by Compal. The 6214W is made at another ODM in Asia, but we have the exclusive rights to sell it in Europe (and now also Australia). I can't tell you what ODM though, I do know the ODM, I just can tell you which

 

ok I will take your word for it then

I have a email from zepto that said compal made the chassis. So I assumed they were correct.

Let it be a mystery then. For whatever reason zepto needs to try to obscure who makes the machine. It has something to do with Acer though but I dont know what. Im usually keen on figuring things like this out when i have time
If I had to guess then based on this information to be true, then the manufacturer would be a company called wistron/aopen because that is the other company that makes acers laptops.
There is an interesting thread here about this subject, and a representative that said zepto in his name said it was made by compal. This is dated from when the machine was new almost a year ago.

 

Well in a twist

The manufacturer is a company called inventec.

Manufacturer of toshiba satelites.

This is the inventec barebone called w14

http://www.inventec.com/english/product_a01.htm

Not a zepto designed model or an acer aspire, an inventec whitebook I never heard about before


ok and for whoever is following what i said earlier about acer, The benq joybook is based off this model. It doesnt look like it though but it is related to it.


Inventec is one of the 5 largest notebook manufacturers also.

 

Hey so apparently the A8 is supposed to be updated with the 8600go around May/June right? If this is the case, what do you think the price would be? Doesn't Santa Rosa have like this new on-board NAND flash memory? How come I haven't heard of any computers with 512MB installed on the motherboard or 1GB installed on the motherboard? Are there more likely to be some of these on Wednesday when Santa Rosa is officially released?

Thanks,
SamsungFTW

P.S. Whatever happened to the Samsung M60 we saw at CeBIT?