Dell XPS M1730 -- 8019 3DMark 06 Score!

The German website notebookjournal.de has a review of the new Dell XPS M1730, and it looks like it's the new king of gaming notebooks, with a 8019 3DMark 06 score, and similiarly outstanding real game benchmarks.

Full review here:

http://www.notebookjournal.de/tests/327/1

 

Well, the current high for a notebook is the Clevo SLI unit over 10K with a desktop processor and a 7950GTX in SLI.

Granted, it is hard to call it a "notebook", but its the highest score in a semi-portable case.

Still the XPS should perform quite well in most games and even do DX10.

Too bad its another car payment to get one.

 

Ahahhh!!! Suddenly we dont care how fugly it is!!!

Its the laptop 'Honda Element'

 

Sweet score ...BTW I like to see TOSHIBA X205 SLi Score

 

Wow ... the SLI-8700m GT scales almost 200% double from the X200's 8700m GT!

 

Hmmm... I don't think it looks that ugly in the review... However, it did look extremely ugly in leaked pictures surfaced a while ago. Anyway,pictures are hardly accurate sometimes.

Unfortunately the laptop looks extremely thick. How heavy is it exactly?

 

how... amazing notebook

Speaking of which, what is the fastest laptop (gaming performance wise) on the market? I assume the Alienware series?

 

KernalPanic already answered that..

 

I forgot who but sum1 on these forums got 10000+ on overclocked a Clevo D900C (desktop proc + dual 7950GTX)

I averaged 9200 on my overclocked m9750 (8200/8400 stock).

 

Uh... 200% better is 3x the score (100% better is 2x the score).

And the 8700M GT in the toshi is underclocked.

 

Did you overclock the Proc, both video cards, or both?

I have the same machine and I'm thinking of overclocking the two video cards while they're in SLI. Which software tool did you use to overclock?

 

3dmark scales very very well with things like sli and better cards, but in actual game performance its not even close usually. Some games only get like a 5% boost from SLI.

 

Can you provide some links?
or you speaking from your own experience?
5% increase from 2 x gpu and 2 x video ram is really unbelieveable...

 

The GPU's using Rivatuner, AW has hinted at a BIOS update with hardware ocing of the processor (If there is an update I go to an Industrial freezer to break the 10k barrier). As for the 5% increase, its a combi of bad drivers and Vista, in the AW forums all the SLi problems are Vista related, if you're calculating performance vs price then take 50% if you're planning on XP but for Vista take bad drivers into account...

 

Wel saying sli only offers 5% extra is false. At least for desktop it isen't.
I have a sli 680i chipset and dual 8800 gts 640 mb.
Sli is able for me to give me a 90 % advance and most of the time even a 100% advance. Ofcorse the biggest problem with sli is cpu bottleneck even my 2,4 core 2 quad gives a bottleneck sometimes.
When i overclock it to 3 ghz most games offer a 100 % advance.
I am not trying to support nvidia or beeing a fanboy but sli somting that actualy works. Anyway this is true for desktop laptops have other chipsets. but i am shure it will be much more then 5%.

EDIT: 3dmark doesen't give points for hardware it actualy gives points on how hardware renders things.

 

I speak of experience, and of knowledge.

You can find more benchmarks and test for SLI than I can count at well known places like guru3d.com or xtremesystems forums.

SLI does not scale the same with all games, some games get an advantage while others do not, Plus vista itself is not working as well as XP, tho in the last few months it has made very large leaps closer to XP.

Take the time to google up various SLI benchmarks and see for yourself.

 

The Dell has no chance...

The Clevo D900C (Sager 9261) like everyone has said...

broke the 10,000 score barrier in 3DMark06 for both SLI 7950GTX and 8700M GT's

http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=183648

And the other thing is that the Clevo M570RU (Sager 5791) w/ single 8700M GT gets a score of 6200.

So not very impressed with the overpriced Dell.

 

ya got that right. i did a frap bench with a friends m1730 against my m1710, and I matched and even succedded him with my 7900gtx

 

the clevo does kick a$$.

take any 8700 to high res and it can't handle it.


but 3dmark means $hit for realworld stuff.

 

Could it be the drivers? Dell seems not to be on the ball with this sli stuff.

 

the 8700s only have a 128bit bus.

the results are all over.

when the *real successor to the 7900gtx/7950 comes out.

then we will see

 

if something like 8700mgt sli is claiming 8000+ scores then im guessing upcoming 8800m should easily break 10000 in sli. xps heat dissipation suck by the way, the bottom actually scalded my thigh...

 

3dmark doesn't mean ****

it gets that much in 3dmark. but can't beat my 7900gtx in REAL benchmarks in Oblivion, Bioshock, Crysis etc etc.

 

10.6 lbs

really fun carrying it around campus.

 

I have it. The Blue Version.

It's not ugly at all, with the lights on and the keyboard background lighting.

But if this is the "king of laptop gaming", or right up there at the top, then I can see why some people say gaming is much better on desktops. Perhaps when the 8800 cards come out - it'll be much better.

I got a 3D mark 06 score of 7768. A friend of mine bought a desktop over a year ago for about half the price (custom built) that has a score of 8100.

 

You thought about anger management?

Incidentally i find it hard to believe that the 7900 (SINGLE) would beat 8700 SLI in anything. I have already seen proper benchmarks on websites for the desktop 8600 in SLI and it beats a single 7950 GTX even at high-res. What am i missing?

Some people dont, everyone does. Desktops are faster than laptops.

Also i have an AMD Athlon 3800+, 2GB DDR400, with an X1900XTX. Gets about 5700 in 3DMark06. This system is about 16 months old.

 

I have had NO trouble with heat on my XPS m1730 at all! It has extremely good heat disipation, as you can read in various threads and reviews. I OC'ed both my two cards and processor, and it got hot, but nowhere near as hot as I had feared.

 

jebus christen!

thre is a whole bunch of benchmarks.

look at chazez review of the m1730;

the thing sux @ss!

high res can't do it.

high res does the same a smy 7900 can do.

ffs go to the fuxin link in my sig and read there is proof there about my rig beating a m1730.

ffs. get educated.

I preach this stuff all the time and people like you are like...

I find it uh... hard to uh.. believe.

well believe it.


lemme spell it out for you.

the 8700 have 128 bit memory bus. 256 meg in paralel.

my card is 256 bit bus. 512mb.

high res my card can do 30 fps in say obliviobn outside 1900x1200 maxed.

now the m1730 does the same with an 8700 in sli.

my point is that it should do way better but it doesn't

there is tons of reviews.

educated ones.

just read around and go to forums like notebookforums.

 

^ I had an m1710 with a single 512mB 7950 GTX card with 256 bit memory bus.

I exchanged it for the m1730. Why? I realised I'm not that hardout a gamer and thought I'd like a laptop more future proof since I'm spending more than $2500 anyway. With Vista only games coming out and DX10 slowly taking over, I didn't want to get an expensive laptop and have to buy another one in 18 months time.

I'm glad I exchanged. Though I'm having problems with SLI, I feel confident and secure that this laptop will remain a great laptop throughout 2008, and a 'good' one in the years after. Also, if it's upgradeable to 8800 nvidia cards (like that alienware), then that's even beter.

 

It's all about the drivers my friend. Since the 7900 has been out there since the birth of man, the drivers are as updated as they can be. They aren't with the 8700mGT... not even close! Plus, SLi isn't running as i should/could in Vista which is also taking chunks out of potiential power. I know, potiential power means crap because we can't brag about our power if it is only potential. All i'm saying is that it's all a matter of time. Which I incidentally have, since this rig is futureproof.

 

Could i get that again, only this time in english?

 

I scored 10189 6 months ago with my rig. The 9260/9261 are upgrade to the next 8xxx series GPU. I dont believe that the 1730 has mxm either. Sorry Dell its a little to late.

 

I scored 10181 6 months ago with my rig. The 9260/9261 are upgrade to the next 8xxx series GPU. I dont believe that the 1730 has mxm either. Sorry Dell its a little to late.

 

It doesn't have MXM, but it has Dells own connector, allowing it to upgrade if Dells releases a new card. Which they have promised that they will.

And could you delete one of your posts? press edit, then delete

 

it says alienware announced 8800m gtx on their website and then took it down later....probably means its on its way if they already started offering the notebooks m15x and m17x with it. according to their site it has 256 bit interface...i'd love to see scores of it on sli.

 

Wel i must say you are correct.
Some games like sli more then others.

But there are several reasons why sli can give bad preformance.

-Cpu bottleneck: When your frame gets created your graphics cards needs certain bits calculated by the cpu. If your graphics card needs to wait on the cpu, you wil not be able to use the full speed of your graphics card. When we use sli we need a even more fast cpu or you wil notice a cpu bottleneck.

-framebuffer bottleneck: the problem with sli is that it does not double the memory or at least it is stil depend on the framebuffer of the card that is outputing the frames. This simply means if your graphical card gets bottleneck beacusse of low memory installing a other card in sli wil give the same framerate beacusse you are limited to the frame buffer of the first card.

-Chipset: Wel ofcorse the chipset is important don't expect to 8800 cards to work fine in sli on a cheap low buget motherboard with only 2 8x lanes.
Those motherboards gave sli a bad reputation beacusse they where unable to give the graphical cards the full bandwith of pci express instead they only gave half the bandwith so not exactly a fast solution.
If you use a 8800 in sli 680i chipsets is the way to go they have 2x full 16x lanes. You could always use a cheaper chipset but make sure it has dual 16x lanes.

Again i am not defending sli but i am only saying it realy works.