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    Desktop VC Questions

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by USAFdude02, Mar 2, 2006.

  1. USAFdude02

    USAFdude02 NBR Reviewer & Deity NBR Reviewer

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    Hey guys,

    Here is what I need. I am looking at buying a Desktop X800XL for $170 shipped. But is it better than the 256MB AIT 9800? By the way, both are AGP.

    Also, if did do it, what do you think I could be for the 9800 if I sold it?

    Thanks in advance. :)
     
    USAFdude02, Mar 2, 2006
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  2. pbcustom98

    pbcustom98 Goldmember

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    from:

    http://www.ati.com/products/radeonx800/index.html

    "Ground-Breaking Speed
    Radeon® X800 Graphics Technology delivers frame rates that surpass all previous graphics processors and up to two times the performance of the acclaimed Radeon® 9800 PRO. Radeon® X800 graphics technology provides an extremely smooth, responsive HD gaming experience, putting capable gamers in complete control of even the most demanding game titles. A new architecture based on the latest .13 micron, low-k manufacturing process with ultra fast and efficient GDDR3 memory combine to produce extreme data rates and unbelievable acceleration in a quiet, cool, single-slot solution."

    hope that helped your decision...i would check eBay for prices on that 9800..or pop into another pc

    pb,out.
     
    pbcustom98, Mar 2, 2006
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  3. USAFdude02

    USAFdude02 NBR Reviewer & Deity NBR Reviewer

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    Ok...PB,

    Here is one for you...what is the difference between the X800XL and the X800XT?
     
    USAFdude02, Mar 2, 2006
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    I have a 9800XT in my desktop - the X800XL is MUCH faster than the 9800 series. It has a newer architecture, faster memory, etc.

    I would take a look at a 7800GS AGP - that's the best AGP card you can buy. Or, the 6800GS if you want to save money.
     
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  5. USAFdude02

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    Chaz...where do those cards relate...compared to the cards you mentioned. where does the X800XL fit?
     
    USAFdude02, Mar 2, 2006
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    the x800xl has more pixel pipelines and vertex shaders than the 9800. also, is has a 256-bit memory bandwidth against the 9800's 128. also, it was ddr3 and the 9800 has ddr1.

    in comparison.. the 9800 is like the having a toyota camry SE, sure it looks fast but it aint.. the x800xl is to a camry like a toyota supra... newer, faster, better
     
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    Nope. My 9800XT has a 256-bit memory interface and DDR2 memory. The Pro also has 256-bit as well. The 9800SE had 128-bit interface.

    The non-XT 9800's had DDR only I believe.
     
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    good call. i got all kinds of nvidia info crammed in my head, but not so much ATI stuff. :)
     
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    Now you are talking my language. :) The Camry SE...are you talking the 4 or 6? J/K
     
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    the 4 buddy, when comparing a 9800 to an x800.
     
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    look at the chart here:

    http://www.guru3d.com/article/content/196/

    i would copy/paste the chart, but i cant format it nice enough.

    also note..these are PCIe cards...but it is relatively the same.

    http://www.tweaktown.com/articles/768/2/agp_graphics_cards_compared_page_2_ati_offerings/index.html

    will show you the clock speed on an x800xl AGP flavor.

    also, as chazman421, the 7800 agp is the BEST and most likely LAST agp card. if you are going to spend the money for it, i think it would be best to spend the money to get yourself into PCIe, and then get a newer card.

    http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/55228/
    (person is in the same boat you are in now, 9800->x800xl/xt)

    hope this helps.

    pb,out
     
    pbcustom98, Mar 2, 2006
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