Deus Ex: Mankind divided

ive been playing the new Square Enix title Deus Ex: Mankind Divided, iv'e been a fan of the series and was hoping this latest installment was just as solid as the previous..........so far so good.

im trying to a 100% completion and am having a blast, currently 11hrs in and still haven't made it to the first main mission, so much to explore and find, and so many different ways to complete a mission is making for a really really enjoyable time, very rewarding when you complete a mission in the planned manner.

just curious who else is playing the game and how they are finding the game.....

 

http://www.techspot.com/review/1235-deus-ex-mankind-divided-benchmarks/page4.html

"24fps with the GTX 1080 at 4K... enough said, really. For playable performance here you're looking at a pair of Pascal Titan X cards."

 

I plan to get it when I decide which laptop to get. Also a good reason to go for the 1070 instead of the 1060 I was considering.

 

Human Revolution is one of my favorite games of all time, and roughly 12 hours in, Mankind Divided is nowhere near as good. The opening/tutorial mission was fantastic. The first hub world, though, was a slog of mostly dull sidequests that I have to believe were intended to pad out the playtime. It's made worse by the fact that, unlike in Human Revolution, I feel most of said sidequests in Mankind Divided feel like they're required for the best experience, rather than a fun, optional diversion.

Spoiler

For example, the side mission where you need to retrieve the device that lets you use the experimental augmentations without needing to disable your "primary" ones. Why the heck wouldn't I want to have that?

Long as I'm complaining, they really screwed up the hacking minigame. The interface is far more clunky. You can get caught by the computer in the middle of jumping from node to node. A nuke virus still automatically captures a node but now it sets of the alarm 100% of the time. The extra pieces of hacking software feel largely tacked on.

While I haven't gotten there yet, I've read that the ending is a major let-down. Not that Human Revolution's was anything ground-breaking, but this is concerning.

Were the second hub world not immensely better than the first, I'd have been all set to name Mankind Divided as one of the most disappointing games I've played in a long time.

 

for me its the opposite, i feel like its giving more choice to the player, if you want to rush through the game sure go ahead, but if you want to go off the beaten track and enjoy exploration what you can find is great, what im enjoying most about this installment is the feeling of freedom, i enjoyed human revolution but it felt more scripted, less sandbox-y that mankind divided, i don't think either story-lines are superb, they are both good enough to move the game along imo that's about it.

regarding hacking im enjoying this version, its more challenging, you have to use the tools more spontaneously, im failing much more than in human revolution and i see that as a good thing.

cant talk about the ending not there yet, but human revolution wasn't exactly mind blowing lets be honest here.......i am enjoying the journey and that's enough for now.

other than that i think the game is better than Human revolution in every regard.

 

I prefer to think of Human Revolution as more focused. I get why people like the more open-ended stuff, but for me, those types of games always leave me feel like I missed important things. And at the point in the story where I am, Mankind Divided has yet to justify itself as worthy of another playthrough. I sincerely hope to be wrong by the time I finish it.

There's a difference between genuine challenge and changing things to the point of making them borderline unfair. The fact that I can't click and drag to move the layout (the keyboard is not as precise) and that the UI gets in the way of itself have caused me to fail far more often than necessary. The "shrouded" networks are also annoying and pop up with far more frequency than they should.

 

i scroll the view to get a better overview of the whole layout, then i have access to multiple paths at once,

Spoiler: game content

datascan is amazing, as is reveal, both really help me capture more often than not, of course i don't use them for easier hacks but for the tough ones

i dont know, i feel mankind divided hacking seems more fair, more balanced.

i really hope the game improves for you, im already planning a second playthrough lethal to get payback for the huge work needed to do missions stealth/non lethal, the funny thing is im still yet to touch the first main mission 13hrs in, that's class in my opinion.

 

its running fine for me on the laptop in my sig, on a mixture of ultra/high settings, im running it at 1920x1080 and the fps are sitting in the 50's most of the time, occasionally dipping into the low 40's, i don't notice any stutter or slowdown so i don't mind not being capped at 60fps

 

If you had an AMD card at the level of power of your 980M (let's say a R9 290) you'd probably be getting around 80fps on ultra.

 

Didn't see this thread, posted first here:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...scussion-thread.794965/page-115#post-10326568

Deus Ex requires at least a single 1080 to be above 60 fps at Ultra settings with DX11 1080p - 62 fps, 1080 @ 1440p - 44 fps, every other card is sub 60 fps. No mention if SLI support is available.

Very High: 1080 @ 1080p - 76 fps, 1080 @ 1440p - 50 fps

High: 1070 @ 1080p - 69 fps, 1070 @ 1440p - 46 fps

Medium: 1060 @ 1080p - 60 fps, 1060 @1440p - 42 fps

Deus Ex: Mankind Divided - 15 GPU Benchmark, Ultra, Very High, High & Medium


Tough game, and these benchmarks were run without MSAA. Word is MSAA is only for SLI / Crossfire setups.

This is why Deus Ex: Mankind Divided may be running terribly for you
https://www.vg247.com/2016/08/24/th...kind-divided-may-be-running-terribly-for-you/
"In fact, outside of a temporal AA solution, the only hard AA option the game offers (MSAA) is designed for those running SLI or CrossFire. This option, along with Contact Hardening Shadows, will make even PCs with recommended specs suffer."

 

oh wow that's painful.....

i also have MSAA off, rest is a mix of ultra/very high/ high
temporal AA off/ motion blur off/ benchmark min 39 - max - 59 average - 49

the game seems to run ok, but still its a very demanding game, i was quite surprised compared to other games im playing at max setting that seem much nicer, perhaps its not well optimized.

 

I finished the second hub world last night, and the whole experience there was awesome - exactly what I was hoping the rest of the game would be. Though I have to say I'm somewhat disappointed that you go right back to the first world. At least Human Revolution had some variety to the locations (Sarif Factory, Detroit, Highland Park, Hengsha, TYM, Picus, Omega Ranch, Panchea). From what I've read, it doesn't seem like you leave Prague at all. When you've seen one dystopian Eastern European neighborhood, you've seen them all.

Mankind Divided isn't as well optimized as Human Revolution was when it launched. The only major issue HR had was extraordinarily long loading times, and they fixed it pretty quickly. I could play that game smoothly on my Radeon 6770M equipped MacBook Pro under Windows at its native 1680x1050 resolution and mostly high settings.

The new game runs decently enough on my 980M at 1080p and high settings with TAA enabled and stuff like depth of field and bloom disabled (mostly because I don't like those settings as opposed to any performance-related issue). I saw little visual difference with MSAA enabled, not nearly enough to justify the significant performance hit.

 

I loved Deus Ex, DE:Human Revolution, and I really can't put my finger on it, but Mankind Divided just doesn't seem to have the same magic. It could be that it has loads of performance issues, which it doesn't look like a very visually demanding game. Textures on clothes\augs look nice but organics look horrible (maybe intentional subtext?). Pacing on the game is way off, dialogue is too boring. I'm to the point where i'm just pressing the skip button for most dialogue scenes. Don't get me wrong, I'll sit through every single Mass Effect dialogue, which is as wordy as it can get, but for me Mankind Divided's dialogue/plot is not gripping me like getting my balls caught in a bear trap.

Still in the 1st Hub, but right now I can only play for a little bit of a time before I get bored and go back to Fallout 4 Survival Mode. Will try downgrading my graphic settings a bit to see if that might improve the performance issues, see if that has any effect on improving the experience where I can... not sure there is anything I can do about the story.

 

I dunno, I remember HR ran like turd back in the day. Granted, I ran it on 240m, but I recently played HR DC on 970, and it still ran like turd, so many stutters, so I'm somewhat not surprised that MD is also an unpolished turd.
Hopefully Nixxes will fix some of the performance issues, and maybe disable the crappy mouse acceleration! Seriously, has HR taught them nothing?!? People hate that crap!

Sorry to hear that some of you don't like it that much. I myself loved a lot of things about HR, so I was happy when they announced MD. And if I haven't been stuck with the 240m again, I would have probably bought it on release.
But I'll see how the game is myself, once I get it during Christmas Sale or so.

 

Performance issues aside (I don't remember any), I was a day 1 buyer of Human Revolution, played through that, and felt it was an improvement over the original Deus Ex and would recommend it to anyone who was a fan of the original Deus Ex. I can't say that for Mankind Divided.

 

I haven't been able to free myself of FO4, but I was tweaking Deus Ex's settings just to see what I can get, ...how does the in game benchmark compare to the demand of the game?

1080p, No MSAA, Vsync off/"Fast" in Nvidia control panel:

 

Turn off contact hardening shadows, and you should see a boost.

 

While turning off CHS increases my average fps by ~3, it doesn't do anything for my minimum, that's why I kept it. I can get my minimum above 36 by moving to high shadows, but I'd rather not.

 

In my experience, the benchmark is much more condensed and intensive in terms of performance demand than the game in general.

 

I can't even play the game. It won't update and won't start.

 

WTF, that's strange, there was a patch (update) today, i noticed that they have a Beta Patch that reverts the patch to the previous version, perhaps you could try that.

they can be found in under properties/betas: drop down then select the version i think there are two previous versions the 1.0 and the 2. something

 

So, just watched some gameplay vids on Youtube... Dem NPC face textures... Dat lip syncing, or rather lack of it...

 

I had to change my download location to Paris. Then it worked.

 

ohhh ok, that was going to be my next suggestion

 

Super excited to play this game. Absolutely loved HR, still haven't played the original though. I've already got MD as a gift on Steam, now I just need a computer that can play it, which should be here in a few days. Hopefully my little 1060 will handle it decently enough; I'll share my results soon.

 

This video shows a Clevo P375SM-A playing Deus Ex: Mankind Divided in Ultra, not so bad after all, PC specs are close to my GT80 Titan SLI...perhaps it is not yet time to throw it out the window.

 

Eww he hits below 40fps at some points. Disgusting. His system is damn cool though.

 

900p on high settings is the best experience i can muster for this game!

 

Wow... yeah I've kind of put this game to the side for now. I'll probably try again after some more polish and performance improvements.

 

Does this game also punish you (in terms of XP rewards) for not being stealthy like Human Revolution did?
I mean does this also have things like "ghost" and "smooth operator" type rewards?

 

Yes.

 

I only started the first mission but up front it asks if you want to go non-lethal or lethal. So not sure what paths you can take throughout the game and what bonuses you get.

 

Those bonuses do exist, but they don't seem to be as "important" as they were in Human Revolution. I've tried to be stealthy whenever possible in my first playthrough here, but the few times I've screwed up and gotten in a hostile situation haven't had a noticeable negative impact on my overall progress from an XP standpoint.

 

nVidia's new GeForce Game Ready Driver v372.70 has come out and supposedly "provides the optimal experience" for Deus Ex: Human Revolution: http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/107014/en-us

Has anyone tried it out yet and noticed any difference in how HR performs?

 

No difference in performance for Maxwell, according to Octiceps

 

Ugh. One of the side missions (The Harvester) seems to be bugged. The game crashes to desktop within 60 seconds of receiving the first set of instructions. Tried a couple driver sets and rolling back to previous patches, no dice. I'm going to re-load one of my older save files, which will have me re-playing about an hour of content, and try again. This is really disappointing because Nixxes, the company who did the PC port, has a pretty decent track record.

 

While I managed to work around the issue I posted about above, I've run into it again, this time for one of the main story missions, so I cannot progress any further. Bang-up job Eidos/Square Enix/Nixxes Software.

 

Apparently the DX12 update comes out tomorrow. This should be interesting.
What a shame this game runs like a$$.

 

all DX12 means is no multi gpu support lol. I hate DX12 cause of this very reason. I also highly, highly doubt they made use of explicit multi gpu.

 

I was hoping it would magically improve the frame rate since a gtx 1080 can barely hold 60fps @ 1080p.

Anyyway some results since came out and Nvidia is performing worse under DX12

 

I just read that this dx12 update is the preview. Later this month is the final dx12 update for the public and WILL include multi-gpu

 

Just wow...

 

This is what I've seen from the benchmark videos. Absolutely ridiculous. Slap dash PC port with Zero optimisation. Disgusting.

 

I know this is supposed to be a DX12 patch, but after the update I did gain ~2fps to minimum in DX11 on the same settings as my post on page 2.

 

Yeah I saw that. Better than a kick in the a$$. It's a shame the game still isn't optimised like it needs to be.

 

Agreed. I give it something of a pass because it is a new engine and it is rather pretty, but it is a CPU hog.

 

just bought this game and uninstalled it after 2 hours. Aside from the performance issues, the game is very boring. I hate 100% stealth, and this game requires it. I couldn't ever get to Koller!

 

Then you're doing it wrong because I could blast my way there without much difficulty.

BTW, the game still crashes making me unable to complete story mission M14. I've submitted crash logs to Square Enix and posted them on the forum for Nixxes to (hopefully) download. I've uninstalled the game for the time being and will pick it up again once I get my P775 up and running next week.

 

if the cops/thugs detect you they kill you in an instant, what am I doing wrong? The entrance to koller is all guards. Mission M3

 

played some more, getting the hang of it. I never played deus games before so its a big change for me.