Diablo 2: Resurrected

To be fair, I've paid for BG1 and BG2 way more times than D2 at this point, even with my preorder for D2:R. I think this will be the third time I've bought D2. I don't mind paying for this massive rework, took a lot of time and resources to do it. And as others have stated, D4 has been in development for some time, and they have publicly released a bunch of info about it, surprised you didn't see it.

This isn't a big deal to me, but I could see that being a problem for people that like mods. It's all against Blizzard's TOS anyway, they have just been letting it go, clock might be ticking on that.

 

Not sure just how well this will do but I'm pretty sure the word million is going to be needed when quoting sales figures.

As to D4 I don't do online with strangers so no chance I'm buying into that one

To go back to D2: I find it's still a fun time killer, even today. Mo purty isn't going to change that and it will be... Mo purty. Not going to be for everyone though; possibly not for me without TCP/IP.

 

Wait, you can do that?
Have you preordered D2R?

 

Yeah, there's a public beta for those that preordered it this weekend. I think next week or something they are opening it up to everyone whether you preordered or not.

 

Should probably make a Battle.net account for that...

 

Without the cheats and dupes the Battlenet economy is broken; no one will get the runewords needed to play at a high level in a ladder. Solo or with a group of friends they're a must have because the balance is designed to accommodate for all those cheats and mods. This is what I was talking about earlier: Fix the cheats and duping and you have to rebalance the game. They claim to have done one but not the other. Irregardless of that many modes such as speed running need TCP/IP to work. There is also the factor of QOL improvements afforded by Glphy and all that; many will not want to give those up. I know I don't.

Hard to quantify where that leaves sales numbers; the only thing we can say for certain is most current active players are running mods but are a small minority of hardcore types. The plodding tedium probably don't even know what TCP/IP is or why they should care.

 

It was fun, great job on the rework. You can easily tell it looks great but is the same underneath without even switching to the original renderer.

 

I would have paid full price for the new version if it had a full offline mode with LAN. I just cant get into games where in a few years when then shutdown the servers I lose all my progress.

 

To anyone of interest, public open beta will start next weekend.

 

I wish I was more of a hardcore gamer like you guys I don't seem to be so into video games now that Diablo 2 peaks my interest it does look a good game and it sure is beautiful but on there is beautiful but on the other hand or the other side of the coin it is an old game and it's outdated it kinda reminds me of shanmo the remake being an older game that was good at the time but now in 2021 it's a 21 it's outdated boring and it absolutely sucks sometimes it's best to keep games down


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There is also another cool feature, which actually is built into this forum. It's called post editing.
Instead of spamming posts you can just edit your existing one. Amazing isn't it?

You can find it below your signature. But just in case adding image in case you have trouble locating the button (used my post as an example)

 

Sounds like something you could say about Crysis Remastered.

 

Hold on a sec, they've removed the fully offline mode?

 

fair enough yeah this will be a good release....kill kenney it take time......not everyone wants to edit like 50 words out of a hundred when the message gets across

thats not on tapa talk....sorry bro but your sarcasm....it was my first time using tapatalk

 

No idea, my comment was "fully offline with LAN" on PC. However I would doubt they have an offline mode with the way Diablo 4 does not on PC.

 

It was alleged to be there and most people think the reason they removed TCP/IP: Some played that way during the first outing without ever connecting to Batttlenet and used it to play locked character classes which they imported in from D2 vanilla.

 

Tapatalk also has a post edit feature.

 

oic im new....just got it...cant find edit

 

Well you already managed it once! Keep going!



Anyway. preload for D2R open beta has started.

 

yeah i figured it out its under settings

 

I hope they create a native version for M1 Macs like they did for WoW.

 

A cut and paste from the patch notes which may be of interest...

Over the last week, we have seen much speculation and reactions from the community around the subject of Ladder play releasing post-launch. We wanted to take this opportunity to share that Ladder Only Rune Words, Unique Items, and Horadric Cube Recipes that were once restricted to Ladder rank play will now for the first time be included in non-ladder multiplayer and single player play. We understand these items complement prominent builds and playstyles cherished by the community. Furthermore, we have heard the community ask to include these items into the single player experience for quite some time. Now players playing solo can also partake in the metas that have become popularized from the original multiplayer Ladder experience. Furthermore, single player will now also include access to the Pandemonium Event and Uber Diablo content.

 

I wonder if the good old "players 8" command will work with this as well. Farming alone with that was way more efficient and I'm 100% sure I won't have as much time as I had for D2 back then.

 

Excellent question...

 

I just want to play it once or twice through solo, I think most of that isn't going to matter to me I never bothered farming anything in it.

I guess you could call me a box-of-chocolates D2 solo player.. whatever RNG handed me on a playthrough is what I used.. lol

 

If you want to do the end game content (Ubers and so on) you have to have the Gucci stuff; not much choice in the matter as you can't do the content without it. Never saw any numbers on how many people go after torches, annis, or even put in the time to get the high end (Louis Vuitton?) runewords?

Back in the day I did some Ubers but never got a really good torch; always somewhere between crappy and mediocre.

 

Eh? I've never had a problem playing the campaign all way through just using whatever dropped.

 

Yeah, that just takes you to the end game. Wanna do the end game content (Ubers and so on) you need serious gear. Remember for many people the campaign is just a speed bump between them and the real game.

 

Killing the Cow King will no longer prevent a character from opening portals. No word on whether exp will still be nerfed after the first run.

 

So played open beta during the last weekend. Played through act I and some of the second act and yeah, strongly considering picking this up.
There's just something warm and fuzzy about Diablo II game, like putting on an old cozy sweater, and the fact that they pretty much just upgraded the visuals and some other things around but didn't touch the core of the game makes it even better. Obviously this means the shortcomings are also there, like the horrendous inventory management, and having to teleport back and forth to sell all the junk for cash instead of having a pet, but it's a part of the charm for me, I guess.
Could be nostalgia, but other slashers just don't tickle me in all the right places like Diablo II does. Also could be that Diablo 2 has the right combination of setting, world, music and a bit grounded gameplay. Considered grabbing D2R+D3 bundle, but then looked at the D3 gameplay videos and holy hell, almost gave me an epilepsy...

Yup, don't care for the grind, just like to play the game.
Maybe that's the reason why something like Diablo 3, Path Of Exile and others didn't really grab my attention (together with over the top visuals looking like Slimmer is constantly puking).

 

I now kinda wish Bliz would also consider to “resurrect” OG Diablo as well.

 

There was some rumor about it, but I have a feeling it isn't happening.

 

https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/di...-ultrawide-support-because-it-breaks-the-game

Real shame… I did enjoy the open beta a lot.
But no ultrawide support is a dealbreaker to me.

 

I get you on the ultrawide but still think they made the right choice in that regard. If you can walk through the game and kill un-triggered and unreactive mobs with impunity that is rather game breaking. You also have the PvP angle where ultrawide would give someone a significant advantage over another player with a lesser monitor.

 

There are number of ways they could remedy that.
For offline they could have included ultrawide support and doing their job of fixing the AI accordingly.
For PvP or coop they could have remained it limited or let people create/join a game where people play on ultrawide monitors.

I have no interest in PvP, but would gladly buy this game to play offline or coop with a buddy of mine, who also has an ultrawide monitor. PoE lets us do it without a problem, VV could have done it too for D2R…

 

Right now your either offline or online and the latter means Battlenet, no more hosting your own. That's my big knock, I've no interest in Battlenet so to my mind there is no multiplayer. I'd probably be more distressed about the ultrawide but I don't play this one on my desktop and seldom hook up the laptop.

As to fixing it that's not quite so easy. Since you can attack at a greater range that means hit points, targeting range, health, the works, have to be adjusted for players and mobs. Do that and only players with ultrawide monitors can join the game because the balance will be whack for those who don't have it. It also cuts into the "oh crap" moments that occur when you run into elite mobs as you have more time to prepare.

All that said I think it should have been enabled for at least offline play.

 

I do miss Diablo 2 but for now I'm holding off. I don't feel like throwing $40 at them just for some nicer graphics... maybe at some point later in the future.

 

I have always maintained a large stash in my Blizzard Balance just by how I play wow and gold falls from the sky so I used that to buy it (same as the last few Xpacs too and some swag).

I didn't play the beta, so this is all new to me relatively speaking. I spent years playing D2 before switching to WoW when it launched then playing D3 and WoW. I still play D3. Last time I played D2 was probably late 2004.

Everything feel so....antiquated with D2. It is amazing how much more refined and polished D3 is vs D2 but I'm still enjoying it. Switching to original mode, the graphics are so cringy. We've come a long way.

 

Like I’ve said, they could unlimit the aspect ratio in offline mode (fixing AI/gameplay issues at the same time) and limit it in PvP or let people create lobbies for ultrawide users, you know, like you can choose control inputs these days (controller/KBAM only or free for all).

That’s what I pay my hard earned money for - for them to release a functioning product.

 

Just started playing, PURE BLISS!

 

No, it's not that easy. Play balancing these games takes years, they still don't have it nailed in D2 or D3 and never did in the first. This would just be more and to placate a very small group at real cost in time and money. I'm possibly skipping it for a different reason but I don't pretend that my needs actually matter; I get that TCP/IP is used by a very small group and does help (some) cheaters. In the end we'll both vote with our wallets.

 

Yeah, I'm sucked right back in. Actually took me a bit to re-acclimate myself to the controls but by level 5 it was all flowing like butter.

 

That's the nail on the head. The work required to support that would cause way more maintenance complexity than the upside in sales. In they end they have to do a realistic cost benefit analysis on it. If they publicly stated they decided against it, at least they seriously gave it consideration. It also sounds like they didn't shut the door on it:

I'm having fun playing it again, the added detail and sharpness is welcome. (full disclosure I'm just playing through it in offline char mode..) I don't think I ever played an assassin, so trying that out..

 

I didn’t say it was easy. But I think it would be possible, but probably a lot of work that’s why they decided against it. That’s their decision and that’s fine, so is my decision not to pay still a hefty sum of 40 Euros for a 20 year old game which didn’t get a critical for me function upgrade.

Sans ultrawide support I liked the game. Gameplay is right up my alley when it comes to ARPG. Maybe I will get it once it’s like 10-20 Euros.

 

all 2 people that own ultrawide monitors should get their own version of the game because they are more important

https://www.reddit.com/r/ultrawidemasterrace/comments/67feju/ultrawide_monitor_popularity/

in the ball park of 0.56 percent


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So you are one of those - “if I don’t have something someone uses that means those features are not important.”

All what was mentioned (in a civilised manner) was said a feature was absent, a thought that the feature would have been achievable with some effort, and the absence of the feature negates all interest one had for the game.

But if you so want we can start a flame war about it and throw insults at one another. Seem like you prefer to do so and throw those little dictionary quotes all around the message board.

 

So we talking Trapper, kicksin, Phoenix?

 

Would be nice if they had fit it in: I don't disagree with you; I'm only saying I understand why they did it.

It also falls into one of the big traps they created for themselves when they decided to remain almost enjoy faithful to the original. I never like having the ridiculously small inventory and durability just infuriates me. These kinds of seudo-gameplay mechanics have been banished to the dustbin of history for good reason. The play balancing was terrible and predicated on cheats that they say are not going to be available. While there is no ladder yet what happens when it opens up and no one can create a hammering bot because no one can possibly get the necessary high runes. Those bots generated a lot of the items players used and more; traded for the high runes that no one will have because they were nearly all cheats. Yet there is no meta character that can be created without high runes.

This ultrawide is party to that, they kept it faithful but there are going to be problems alienating players for a lot of reasons.

 

I never said I don’t understand their decision either. Am I disappointed by it - yes (I think it’s quite noticeable). Do I understand why they made the decision they did - also yes.
I work for a living, I know how things are done in real life

And with that said, I hope it’s the end of this discussion

 

you're talking like I have any expert strategy or care to follow a build guide.