Different between Go7400 and 7600 GS (PC)

I need some of your opinon on the different between the graphic card for laptop and PC, especially between the Go 7400 and 7600 GS. The story is I'm planning to upgrade my PC video card to a 7600 GS, however, I already have a laptop which contain a Go 7400 inside. In general, are there such huge different between the two cards beside the obvious that one is for laptop and one is for desktop, the reason why I'm asking this is I really don't want to spend money on a new card if it only a little better than the best one that I'm currently having

 

Further clarification. How does the 7600 GS differ from the 7600 and the 7600 GT?

 

Performance relation:

7400 < 7600GS < 7600 < 7600GT

The 7400 is close to the 7600GS, but slightly slower from what I understand. But remember that the desktop part isn't comparable directly to the laptop part. The desktop cards tend to be a bit faster than their mobile counterparts, from what I can tell. I haven't seen any direct comparisons, though. So the desktop card will be a decent speed bump up over the 7400 Go, but nothing you'll really drop your jaw over, perhaps just run at a little higher resolution, or be able to increase the details a bit. It won't allow you to run AA on a game you aren't currently running AA on.

 

They are in the same range. Games that you cant play on a go 7400 you might be able to play on low on a 7600. I would say that you can play everything one step up. Low on 7400 can be play with medium settings on a 7600.

 

Sorry but totally untrue.

I own both a Go7400 and a 7600GS in my 2nd desktop. The 7600GS tramples all over the Go7400. It is wrong to even say the two are even close.

Memory bandwith:
Go7400: 7.2
7600GS: 12.8

Data Width:
Go7400: 64-bit
7600GS: 128-bit

Pixel Pipelines:
Go7400: 4
7600GS: 12

Vertex Shaders:
Go7400: 3
7600GS: 5

also there is no vanilla 7600, so it's basically 7400<7600GS<7600GT

but to be honest even though the GS is much better then the 7400, if you're buying a new card you might as well fork out a few more notes to get the GT model which is light years ahead.

 

In general, laptop components are roughly two-thirds as fast as comparably branded desktop components. So, a Go 7600GS would be roughly two-thirds the power of a desktop 7600GS. Now, the Go 7400 is roughly half as powerful as the Go 7600GS based on 3DMark benchmarks. The desktop Geforce 7600GS, then, will be maybe three times more powerful than the Go 7400.

Keep in mind that all these numbers are pretty rough, since you have to factor in processor, RAM, and hard drive performance, too, but the simple conclusion is that a desktop component will definitely be faster than a lower branded laptop part.

The following part of my post is specific to desktop components: Geforce 7600GT is a refresh of the Geforce 7600GS, I believe. 7600GT sports more pixel pipelines and updates to GDDR3 video RAM, instead of GDDR2 used on the 7600GS. The price difference between 7600GS and 7600GT now is almost negligible ($80 for GS, $100 for GT). If you're shopping for mid-range graphics cards, go with the 7600GT.

 

As others have said there is a large difference between the Go 7400 and the desktop 7600GS. The deskop 7600GT is a phenominally fast mid-range GPU and runs circles around the desktop X1600XT. Only the recent desktop X1650XT can compete agaisnt it. The desktop 7600GS is clocked lower than the desktop 7600GT and uses reject cores that couldn't make the higher speeds. The desktop 7600GS competes against the desktop X1600XT/X1650Pro. The Go 7400 on the other hand is a mobile version of the desktop 7300. It's performance level is probably close to the desktop 7300GS. There is also a desktop 7300GT which is actually based on the same core as the desktop 7600 series, just with fewer operation shaders. There is no Go 7600GS, only a Go 7600 which is probably slower than the desktop 7600GS depending on clocking and a Go 7600GT which is probably somewhere between the desktop 7600GS and desktop 7600GT.

In summary:

Go 7400 < 7300GS < 7300GT < Go 7600 < 7600GS < Go 7600GT < 7600GT

 

This comparison should help:

http://www.gpureview.com/show_cards.php?card1=408&card2=387

 

Although i agree with HAvok that the 7600gs is MILES ahead of the Go7400 and there is simply no comparison between the two..

The Laptop 7600 Go is NOT only two thirds the power of the 7600GS..or even three-quarters!. The power difference between a desktop 7600GS and a laptop Go 7600 is almost unnoticable!!
You see when the manufactures put the Go 7600 into a laptop, they underclock the card usually to around 350/400 or even less.. THis is to avoid excess heat generation.And when you look at a standard desktop 7600GS, the clocks are usually around 450/450 or maybe a little less..
The only real differnece between a Desktop and a laptop 7600 is CLOCKSPEED.
AND you can get over that by overclocking you laptop 7600 OR as it should really be called "simply setting the clocks to what they were designed to be at.."

In my case my laptop had a 256mb 7600 GO as standard but was slugghish as the clocks were set at 350/400.. I immediately set the clocks to 450/450 (Or there abouts) and the performance shot up! I can easily get a 3D05 Mark of between 4000 and 4300 depending on what my clock settings are at.. and that is exactly what a standard "desktop" 7600 GS is expected to score!

On top of that, actual gaming performance between the two is practically identical.. I bought a 7600 GS for my dad for his bday and i tried playing a few typical games such as FEAR and Call of Juarez.. FEAR ran just as it does on my laptop and Call of Juarez STRUGGLES at the same frame rates as it does on my laptop!
Both my laptop is clocked at or below 450/450 and my dads 7600GS is also 450/450..
Both cards are the same people!

 

Yeah but the difference - overclocking is not for everybody.

So at basic stock levels, the 7600GS would be better.

I'm not saying you aren't right, I'd overclock too! But some people harbour a fear of overclocking and prefer to leave things as are...

 

Don't bash nVidia's GS line of cards, they're just their GT/GTX versions with a few disabled pipes. The desktop version of the 7600GS should pwn the 7400Go, easily.

 

But thats the thing..the basic stock clock settings of the cards themselves is suppose to be 450/450.. It depends on the manufacturers who put the cards into the laptops..

For instance..: The same 7600 that is in my Tosh P100 is what is put into the Tosh Qosmio, but Toshiba leave the clocks at 450/450 in the Qosmio and put them down to 350/400 on mine.. So what i did with mine couldnt really be called overclocking....

Basically what im trying to say is that from a Design standpoint, both the alone 7600 GS and the 7600 Go are identical to each other in performance..BEFORE the laptop manufacturers get their hands on the them...!

 

Whos bashing the 7600GS? Im just stating the the 7600GS is the same performance as the 7600 Go.. Both are excellent cards

 

what dose GS/GT/GTX etc. stand for anyway?

 

I'm pretty sure GT stands for grand turismo (it does for Ati cards anyway), so the S in GTS might stand for super and the X for extreme. Don't know what the GS stands for, but it denotes a lower tier version of a card (as you most likely know).

Anyways, a fast 7300GT is better than a 7600gs, but not as good as a 7600GT. A go7700 is at about the same level.

GDDR2 memory was a big bust (geforce Fx anyone), what is used is the full ddr2-memory specification.

Th 7600GT was launched at the same time as the gs as a higher end version (like x1650Pro and Xt).

And yes, any 7600 (plus the 7300GT) pwns the go7400, an oveclocked go7300 (which i believe is a 7300gs). The fun part is, there are even worse version of the 7300: the 7300LE and the bottom pick, 7300SE.

 

Basically the monikers represent the power of the cards, from lowest to highest, GS,GT,GTS(it seems to have comeback from the geforce2 era)and GTX. The difference between the 7600GS and GT is clockspeed, and memory, typically the GS uses DDR2,where the GT uses DDR3, the cores are the same, the GT is just hot rodded a good bit.

 

DDR3 is not out yet. I don't think it's been even fully spcified. GDDR3 is an early version that GPU manufacturers have optimized for graphic cards.

 

Clock speeds aren't the only things that matter ... there's pixel pipelines and graphics performance to think about. Laptop components are meant to be mobile. Thus they're small and energy efficient. That translates into a handicap on performance. A desktop 7600 is not only larger than a laptop (imagine trying to cram a desktop card onto a 14-15" laptop), it also draws much more power. A single 7600 will probably take up as much power as the laptop uses power itself. My Toshiba has a 65W power brick.

Clock speed is not the only thing that determines video card speed.

 

a go 7600 is cut from 12 Fragment Pipelines and 12 texture units to 8 of each. The go7700 and go7600 gt however are not. That is why th MBR x1600 is better than a go7600: it's the same as the desktop.

The 7300GT is cut similarily as the go7600. It's Raster Operators has also been cut in half to 4. I'm not sure where i read it was better than a 7600Gs, so I might be wrong, but it seems that only models with gdd3 are better.

 

I NEVER said that clock speed is the only thing that determines video card speed!.. Read my post properly.. I said the only real difference between a mobile 7600 and a Desktop 7600GS that determines performance is the clock speed.. The amount of vertex shaders etc between the two is Identical!

 

I assure you that you are mistaken.

Go 7600:
Memory Interface: 128-bit
Memory Bandwidth: 16 Gb/s
Fill Rate: 3.6 billion pixels/s
Vertices Per Second: 550 million
Pixel Pipelines: 8

Desktop 7600GS
Memory Interface: 128-bit
Memory Bandwidth: 22.4 Gb/s
Fill Rate: 6.7 billion pixels/s
Vertices Per Second: 700 million
Pixel Pipelines: 12

 

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
THOSE ARE THE SPECS FOR THE 7600GT!! Not the GS!!
http://www.nvidia.com/page/geforce_7600.html

The performance of the 7600 Go and the Desktop 7600GS clocked the same is identical!!

 

The 7600 Go and the GS both have 8 Pixel Pipelines! ONLY the GT has 12!

 

http://www.gpureview.com/show_cards.php?card1=387&card2=409
The GS has 12 pipelines.

 

Thanks for that link..COZ according to that site, the 7600 Go actually has superior specs to the 7600GS!....

hahaha

 

that has to do that the go7600 is clocked higher than 7600gs. On that site you can change them to what's stock for the different cards. I'm pretty sure the GS is clocked higher than that and the GO is clocked lower.

 

Those specs I posted are for the 7600GS. The 7600GT was updated to GDDR3 memory. That's the major difference between the 7600GS and 7600GT.

Want more proof?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125028

http://www.sharkyextreme.com/hardware/videocards/article.php/3650821

The Geforce 7600GS has more pixel pipelines than the Go 7600. Just by itself, that makes the desktop 7600 GS faster. Indeed, clock speed is NOT the only reason why the 7600GS is faster.

 

More proof.

http://www.amazon.com/GeForce-7600GS-512MB-DDR2-PCI-E/dp/B000H6Z2G4

Check out my post above.

Exactly the same.

Don't call me a "waffling looser" (which is not how you spell "loser" anyway). You come off sounding like a 12-year old boy.

 

THAT is where you are so completely wrong. My point from the very beginning is that the 7600 Go in real world performance is exactly the same as the 7600GS. The two can vary as much as they want in pixel shaders and then make up for that with higher clock speeds. The 7600 Go has fewer shaders, but compensates
for this by being able to have higher clock speeds.
Overall, the 7600 Go performs the same as a 7600GS!
I SHOULD KNOW COZ my laptop has a 7600Go and my Dads PC has the GS. Both
gpus set at the same clock speeds (450/450) perform the exact same with the 7600Go actually getting slightly higher scores in 3D Mark 05, but both get identical average/max/min frame rates in games like FEAR, Call of Juarez and GRAW. 'As was said in my earlier post'!

 

I'm done here. There's just no reasoning with some people.

 

Hahahaha unreal

 

I think this thread has gotten its point across.