Direct comparison of 260m and 4850?

Anyone got any benchmarks comparing the GPUs more directly? Everything I'm seeing is with fairly different laptops (different cpus) so I'm not certain how big of a difference there is in real world situations (games).

 

GTS 260m or GTX 260m? I know that the GTX 260m > HD 4850, not sure about the GTS 260m though.

 

The 260M and 4850 perform similarily. You can look through the last few pages of the MSI GT725 thread for some 280M and 4850 comparisons.

 

What anothergeek said. Especially if you are using the Asus version stock clocks. The 260m may win out in some games, but to say it's better overall is not accurate. My benchmarks are probably running ~10-20% under anothergeeks 280m, and that with a P8600 v/s a QX9300.

 

Im talking in reference to stock clocks given by Nvidia; the GTX 260m in the G51 is no more than the 9800mGTX with an overclock ( IMHO ) due to how low the clocks are. Given reference clocks from Nvidia and ATI, the GTX 260m will perform better in most all games. There are very few that it wont perform better in, but overall, GTX 260m > HD 4850m.

 

Really, it's a lot closer than you give it credit for. But Nvidia unarguably has better driver support, so I'd give it to the 260M.

But right now, the MSI GT729 is the best bang for the buck, and I would recommend it over the Asus. $1300 with a WSXGA+ screen, 1GB 4850, 4GB DDR3, 320GB 7200 RPM, and an overclockable P8600... not bad, not bad at all. The Asus just runs too hot for its own good, factory underclocked at that. The most important trait in a gaming notebook is its cooling...And if you don't mind paying extra, the Sager's are worth it

 

yeah, the asus is in the red zone.

 

It doesnt matter if the GTX 260m is better by an average of 1 frame or by 100 frames, overall, its still better. The fact is, even if the HD 4850 is nipping at the heels of the GTX 260m ( which it pretty much is ), its still behind the GTX 260m. Thats the only point im trying to make; that overall, the GTX 260m is the superior GPU ( at reference clocks, not the neutered G51 ).

 

4850 Gddr5 > Gtx 260m
4850 Ddr3 = Gtx 260m

 

If it's the 512mb version of the 4850, I'd say things would be even with the GTX 260m give or take. The 1gb version of the 4850 would probably be faster overall, especially with Catalyst 9.8.

 

That extra RAM won't do squat unless you're talking about WUXGA..

 

Even at WSXGA+ it will help because there are games that will utilize the extra VRAM (examples: Far Cry 2, GTA 4, pretty much anything from Capcom, etc.).

 

Give me some GTX 260m Benchmarks with average CPU's to compare against. Crysis Demo, WIC demo, RE5 Demo, X3 demo, GTA IV (comparable CPU's only), DMC4 Demo.

 

There is no GDDR5 4850 for notebooks. Only the 4870 uses GDDR5 and that has yet to be released in public...

 

Basically I'm trying to decide between the bestbuy Asus G71 or one of the many 4850 laptops. The 4850 laptop I really have my eye on is a dv7 2170us I saw at Frys. Beautiful screen, decent cpu, and a little less than $1k. I've been hemming and hawing about the difference. The MSI does look to be a pretty good option as well.

 

Well I'm pretty sure a GDDR5 version of the 4850 is at least slated to be released. IIRC, an upcoming MSI laptop supposedly has it.

 

There are not "many" 4850 laptops. I think you're looking at 4650's. It's a good midrange card, but very different. 4850's are basically just in MSI's and M17's.

 

Curses! You are right I got the numbers jumbled up. I guess I'm either going for the bestbuy or waiting on the 4850 to become more ubiquitous. I'd really rather at least see a laptop in person before I buy it.

 

If you consider my T9800 an average CPU, we can do this.

 

You can limit the CPU by locking into a lower multiplier.

 

I don't know how it will effect the scores, but a T9800 with a reduced multiplier will still have all its L2 cache.

 

My notebook has locked multipliers, I can't change the clocks.

 

A 4850 with GDDR5 is a 4870. Just like a 4870 with GDDR3 is a 4850.

They use the same GPU.

 

Its not the 4850 that has it, the 4870 doesnt yet either, if it does get released, its most likely going to be the 4860, but that has gddr5 and a 128bit bus if i recall, very much like nvidia 2**gts range that i believe will be released.

I think the 260 does have the upper edge, we definitely know the 280 does and since Nvidia offers crazy driver support that gives it an edge also.

And phin, the 4850 is based off a different core to the 4870 if i recall, but the new msi will not support gddr5, only 1gb (which will only truly make a difference in full hd games at 1080p res)

Cant seem to find what the 260m got in vantage gpu score though.

 

Use RMClock to disable the upper multipliers.

Are we talking about GTX or GTS for 260M?

 

The gtx as its out now, and will retain its position against the other cards if im correct.

 

I'm not ready to go there yet. I will give the overclocked title to the 260m, but for someone who wants to buy a notebook and use it at stock performance (but updated drivers) or someone looking at a temperature limited asus, I can't concede to the 260m. I know the stock GPU vantage score favors the 4850, and I would bet most games would too. Again, not massive Sager overclocks, but stock Sagers and stock/Sager speed Asuses.

 

I can't right now, but later I can do a stock clocked MXM 2.1 run with vantage's best driver, 185.20.

An extra 16 shaders and 33 core speed shouldn't make much difference. I'd suspect it will be in the low 5000's, a 260M high 4000's.

 

This is starting to confuse me with this GTS 260M and GTX 260M bull$hit.Can we please type the full the name instead of just "260M" It get's irretating when every 2 post there's a guy wondering wether someone is talking about the GTS or GTX.

 

We're talking about the one that currently exists and is available. That would be the GTX 260m. All of this thread is about the GTX 260m. We will now continue to call it the 260m since the situation has been clarified.

 

Here's Vantage, bone-dry. I didn't install 185.20 because I'm feeling lazy, but this is the score to be expected from a stock 280M with typical drivers.



With overclocking and tweaking, I've gotten GPU over 6100. Just at 600/1500/950 with this same driver I did a run for 5374 GPU.

 

They both use the RV770 GPU.