DirectX 10.1 will make current DX10 card obsolete...

There has been news about the upcoming DX10.1 making the current graphics card that supports DX10 "obsolete", such that games that make use of DX 10.1 requires a GPU hardware update.

Info: http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/speculation/directx-101-leaving-directx-10-cards-in-the-dust-288507.php

What do you guys make of this?

 

A really big reason for Nvidia 9 series cards. Microsoft has done this before. DX9 finished with DX9c that had shader 3.0 support.

Yes, current cards are not forward compatible in this instance. Now if you had a 10.1 card, you get the benefit of backward compatibility.

 

awww u mean my brand new laptop that hasnt' even reach my door yet is outdated already?

 

I know... seems like hardware upgrade is required not in years but months!

 

No. If you card does not support DirectX 10.1 then it will simply use DirectX 10, and considering how DirectX 10.1 does little more than make some features such as AA mandatory, its really not a very big loss. Plus, there has already been numerous threads on this subject.

 

http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=153995

 

Dang, sorry for the double "thread" guys.. I searched for this and didn't find it...

 

whew I don't feel so bad now haha. my g1s is in omaha nevada getting loaded into an UPS plane right now

 

Nah...I had to search for 10+ minutes to find it. Its old and dead, but useful info thus my post.

 

this whole dx10 thing is getting out of hand. first it was the new 600 dollar standard for video cards, next the vista ordeal, and now before any solid real dx10 games come out the next ones are upon us. honestly, it seems like microsoft and nvidea are trying to kill pc gaming...

 

No, this crap always happens. 6 months from now they'll be taking 10.2, and 14.843 will be here in about a year.

As of right now, DX10 is a joke...DX10.1 isn't going to be any better. I'm happy with my XP and DX9 thank you very much.

 

Agreed with gReg.....
dx10 hasnt even started crawling yet, the microsoft pushes out dx10.1
well, call me back in 2010 when these things really get off the ground

 

No games are going to be written that work only with 10.1 and not with 10.

I feel fairly sure about that.

 

So true. So true.

 

no games are gonna be written that work only with direct 10 and not 9, well not for a while at least.

 

Yea, but I think DX10 is here to stay. It brought (supposably) better optimization, and a new pixel shader # capable of running more gfx with less power.

No one knows much about DX10.1 other than it forces 4xAA and uses 32 bit filtering instead of 16 bit. That doesn't seem significant enough to require new hardware, or something that game devs will care about.

 

Het guys read this news

Microsoft: DirectX 10 Hardware WILL Support DirectX 10.1

 

I think we pretty much already knew that. It doesn't say anything the other article didnt.

It STILL says in the bottom of that article that for the new features of DX10.1 you will require new hardware.

So basically, your DX10 GFX card will be able to run DX10.1 games, and DX10.1 should further optimize your DX10 card, but for all the features of the new 10.1 you will require a new GFX card.

 

Let them make DX 10.1 I say. Then when the fancy new DX 10.1 cards come out the high powered regular DX 10 cards will get real cheap then I can afford to put one in my PC

I don't know about some of the other PC gamers on NBR but my budget is always tight so I'm always looking to save a bit of money and I don't mind using something slightly outdated either

 

Microsoft should have made this DX10.1 to DX11 for Vienna/7. Having a .1 increase and requiring newer hardware that supports it is too lame.

 

DX10.1 features a new sound system that will easy X360 to PC port and expend some features of DX10 (32 bit floating point & 4xAA always on), that's all

stop dramatising, no new effects.

 

Well it's "supposed" to bring up gaming standards. But I what I find is, microsoft will work with the vendors to always make software updates that require hardware updates. How will nvidia or ATI continue to run if they have to wait 4 years for your video cards to become obslete?

 

i wounder what they change in the next DX 10.1,,,
i was reading about the geforce 9 somewhere,

apparently it has a built in translation unit and Embedded DRAM...
Both which my 2900xt has,
so i am fingers crossed my 2900xt will be forward compatible....

Unless they change something really big....

 

they constantly work with devs to make better and more graphicly intencive games. that way your forced to buy a new video card every couple of years to keep up with the games.

 

Thats why console gaming is so much more popular, and why I stick to older PC games leaving new titles for xbox and such. To be honest there is too much turmoil in PC gaming hardware/software for me to buy into it. I HATE the fact that if I want a new video card to replace my x1650, I have to "upgrade" to vista. Being forced into a OS because I want to improve my gaming is ridiculous. I for one and sticking to XP pro and DX 9c, as Im not going to let M$ force me into buying that crap hole of an OS they are selling now. Plus there are already plans in the near furture of relasing a new OS to replace vista...can anyone say ME??

 

the 2900xt wont be fully DX 10.1 capable

 

Interestingly the new XAudio2 is not a DX10.1 exclusive and will be available to XP too.

https://connect.microsoft.com/XAudio2Beta/content/content.aspx?ContentID=5127

What's amazing is that Microsoft didn't cripple XAudio2 on XP either and any differences are just due to inherent differences in how XP and Vista implement audio. Maybe Microsoft isn't ignoring XP afterall.

 

I hardly find it a problem as I don't really see my 8600GT doing much more than DX9 and maybe some med quality DX10.

Id only be upset if I had a 600$ 8800 ULTRA that I just bought that is supposedly soon to be outdated..

Thats not the case though with my desktops 7900GS..

Ill update my comp when I can get a 45nm processor and Vista with SP1.. maybe even sp2 if gods willing..