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    Directx 11 Laptops???

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by johnnyman27, Jan 7, 2010.

  1. johnnyman27

    johnnyman27 Notebook Lover

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    i want to buy a new laptop.which laptops will support directx 11 and when they will be released??thanxxx and sorry for bad english!!
     
  2. notyou

    notyou Notebook Deity

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    Only ATI based laptops will support DX11 in the near future. A few models carrying the GPUs include:
    HP Envy 15
    ASUS N61JQ-A1
    ASUS N71JQ-A1
    ASUS G73JH-A1
    More should be announced soon since the mobility Radeon 5xxx series was officially announced today.
     
  3. sean473

    sean473 Notebook Prophet

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    Wasn't the 5000 series announced yesterday already?
     
  4. stefanp67

    stefanp67 Notebook Consultant

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    I browsed a Swedish price comparison site and there seems to be a lot of laptops with HD5000 gpu's on the way see attachment for listing. Divide prices by 10 for us dollar. I'm already sold on the HD5650 or HD5730 models.
     

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  5. Bog

    Bog Losing it...

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    Keep in mind that DX10 hardware also has support for DX11 features.
     
  6. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    Well it depends what the game designers do.

    DX10 to DX11 is going to behave like DX8 to DX9.
     
  7. OneCool

    OneCool I AM NUMBER 67

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    Doesnt the GPU have to support dx10.1 not 10?For it to take advantage of certain dx11 features?
     
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    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    To support DX11 you need all of DX10, and DX10.1's features anyway.

    DX10:

    a,b,c

    DX10.1:

    a,b,c,d

    DX11:

    a,b,c,d,e,f,g
     
  9. Galdere

    Galdere Notebook Consultant

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    It's not like DX11 has twice as many features as DX10, and some DX10 hardware can support some of the differences between DX10 and DX10.1. Parts of the DX11 enhancements will work on DX9/10/10.1 hardware anyway.
     
  10. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    Certainly not DX9, thats a completely different arch.

    It was an example of what I meant. Its unlikely coders will take advantage of DX11 features in their DX10/10.1 code paths as they are not in the spec.
     
  11. Galdere

    Galdere Notebook Consultant

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    "DirectX 11... Parts of the new API such as multi-threaded resource handling can be supported on Direct3D 9/10/10.1-class hardware."

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DirectX#DirectX_11
     
  12. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    More of the operating system tweaks than the hardware iteself. You install a DX9 game on a DX11 OS and it will multithread some of the CPU load. Grand, they may help in some single threaded CPU limited DX9 games... Nothing to do with the actual GFX hardware however.
     
  13. Galdere

    Galdere Notebook Consultant

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    What is DX if not a tweak of the OS for the hardware? :)

    The quote says it refers to more than just the example stated.
     
  14. Galdere

    Galdere Notebook Consultant

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    Well you edited to include more than one sentence when I had replied, which is confusing.

    It has everything to do with hardware, because it allows post DX9 capable HARDWARE to be able to deal better with multithreaded capable software.

    That is not enabling non CPU multithreaded DX9 games to magically become so.
     
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    You might get these minor tweaks but you wont get any major changes. This is not going to make a DX10.1 card run DX11 mode.

    You might see the situation as with the radeon 8500, ti 4200 and radeon 9700.

    Radeon 9700 runs DX9, all fine.
    Radeon 8500 runs DX8 with PS1.4 and gets a performance edge of the ti4200 which had to use PS1.1 (and do certain things in multiple passes).
     
  16. Galdere

    Galdere Notebook Consultant

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    I didn't and wouldn't disagree with that. :)

    I hope you understand what you were confused about mate.
     
  17. Meaker@Sager

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    Did you mean that DX10 is a subset of DX11 or that for example the radeon series has supported tessalation (as now used in DX11) since the HD 2x00 series?

    In the latter case its unlikely to actually be used.
     
  18. Galdere

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    I said your abc description was misrepresentative and you that didn't get the multi-threaded resource handling in DX.

    That's all. Don't want to go all over the place with it so you can prove something else. It's not that big a deal mate. I guess you know what I mean. You seem to know your stuff otherwise.
     
  19. Meaker@Sager

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    Well actually it would be more of a feature "a" lol.
     
  20. dalingrin

    dalingrin Notebook Evangelist

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    DX10/10.1 class cards will not support DX11's tessellation or shader model 5.0. These are the two of the 3 new features in DX11 that will have a major impact on a games visuals.
    So saying:
    is very misleading without further explanation.
     
  21. Bog

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    My intention was not to mislead, merely to remind people of a simple fact. The detailed research I leave up to them.
     
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    ok this might be a little irrelevant but is 9600M GT a DirectX 10 card or DirectX10.1 card and doesn it full support directx 10.1?
     
  23. OneCool

    OneCool I AM NUMBER 67

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    All Nvidia chips are DX10, not 10.1 unless they are the 40nm process ones.
     
  25. sean473

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    what's the diff between DirectX 10.1 and DirectX 10 GPU's?
     
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    Pitabred Linux geek con rat flail!

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    Asus has a DX11 laptop coming soon though considering my 5870 on my desktop just can barely make the cut for maxing out a DX11 game I dont think it will do any good for a notebook.
     
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    Laptops were never about maxing though....

    Crossfire mobile HD 5870 will just about equal an HD 5850 -> 5870 desktop (maybe with a little tweaking).