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    Dirt 2

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by spradhan01, Dec 1, 2009.

  1. spradhan01

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    Anyway.. you can try the demo!
     
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    Just did some benchmarking. With SLI Off and 88m GPU, 1920X1200 resolution,4XAA,Vsync on and everything on ultra, I got 30 FPS avg.And with SLI On and all the same settings, I got like 41 FPS. The graphics is really cool and nice. I must say it is really optimized. It is a must have game.
    The only thing that sucks is this game runs on either Dx9 or Dx11. So for Nvidia users, its DX9. :(

    Just go and get it next week.
     
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    I got it free with my 5770 :D. Can't wait to see DX11 in action! Steam says December 4th
     
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    I can still use my Desktop to play it with DirectX11. :D
    I hope DirectX 11 will boost everything.
     
  7. JCMS

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    Hey we have the same motherboard :)
     
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    DarkSilver MSI Afterburner

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    LOL. :D
    Why your RAM downclocked to 1333(667MHz) from 1600(800Mhz)?
    Izzit this MSI Board caused that? Because my place have some people with similar problems too.
     
  9. JCMS

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    It's the chipset. Doesn't support over 1333 at defaut bus speed.
     
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    This's strange. You can adjust it at the BIOS setting. So, it can read 1600(800Mhz) speed. However, please do take care of the Latency of your RAM too. I mean must match it up with original 1600(800Mhz) and Original RAM CAS Latency. Else, it won't boot the Windows.
    Mine was originally 1333(667Mhz) but it's downclocked to 1066(533Mhz). After that, I went to BIOS and adjust it. Now, it on 1333(667Mhz) and with faster CAS Latency(I overclock it LOL).

    EDIT: LOL why are we discussing desktop here. XD
     
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    Well, DiRT 2 just launched a few hours ago.
    I am downloading it via Steam(slow connection T.T).
    Hope this games is good.
     
  12. JCMS

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    Dunno lol. My RAM has the same CAS in both 1333 & 1600. CPU-Z lists PC3-10700 for max bandwidth but I have a timing reading for PC3-12800
     
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    That doesn't matter. As long as you can change the Frequency of the RAM in the BIOS or when you're OCing the CPU, the RAM can support up to 1600Mhz, then, you're alright. BIOS reads wrong but you can tune it. XD
     
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    Well yeah, The P55 supports the 1333 at defaut speed but "1600 or 2000 is recommanded for overclocking usage".
     
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    heck, i don't care... LOL.
    the reason why they set it so high is because for us to set it lowest as possible.
    So, when we OC the CPU, the RAM will no exceed the original MHz.
    For example:
    you have a 1333Mhz ram
    you OC the CPU by 0.6Ghz, then, the ram will become more than 1333Mhz which mean OCed RAM. Take note that CPU increase Ghz, ram also increase Mhz.
    So, before tat, you need to downclock the RAM Mhz to lower value, so, when you OC the CPU, the RAM will not more than the original/peak Mhz(example here is 1333Mhz).
    Thus, higher the RAM Mhz(example 1600Mhz), there will be more space for CPU OCing because you can set the Mhz value to very low and then OC the CPU and it's will be slower or harder for the RAM to reach the peak Mhz(1600Mhz).

    By the way, P55 supports upto 1600Mhz.
    My 1333Mhz RAM has been OCed to 1450Mhz due to I didn't downclock the Mhz before doing the OC. But if I downclocked it and do the minor OC, I can't get 1333Mhz, instead I get only 1150Mhz. I rather have it OCed also don't want something slower. LOL.
     
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    OMG! Dirt 2 requirement and graphic is too gay. My HD5870 also can't support it. I mean when I set to MAX resolution, 4X AA and Ultra Graphic Setting.
     
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    lol, whut!? so far Dirt 2 doesn't support SLI. It only uses one of my cards, and with 16xAA it slows down under 60fps!! very lame!!
     
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    Dirt 2 supports SLI just not out of the box. There is a work around.
     
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    DiRT 2 needs at least 45++ FPS to maintain smoothness of the gameplay.
    I wonder it's so strange. Usually, a normal games will be 25FPS or 30FPS as smooth-stage. But DiRT 2 is crazy. I see the graphic of this game, I feel like OMG! LOL. Especially those models details, textures, lighting and environments.
     
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    did you try turning on v-sync and 75Hz refresh rate? it helped me a lot. got like 2fps less but the overall game feels much more smooth and without screen tearing.
     
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    That much? I remember BF2 needing that too but that's a lot! My single 5770 may not be able to cut it at 1080p :(
     
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    . . .I don't think it 'needs' 45 minimum. The motion-blur helps the 28-35 average FPS that I am getting with a single card. In fact, I'd say it's one of the few games that does appear somewhat smooth at a 30 FPS rate.

    Nice looking game!
     
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    Runs fine for me 5760x1200 with the none hotfix 9.11 on the 5870. I found a way to play it early on Steam but cant go online or save my progress :/

    I only played a few rounds today with my keyboard and the 360 controller. When it officially comes out I will hook up the wheel and really have at it.
     
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    It's up now, downloading.

    The game seems to scale well with resolution from the benchmarks I've seen. While the 5770 gets 38fps at 1280x1024, it gets 34 at 1680x1050 and 32 at 1920x1200. Seems more heaving the GPU than the memory.
     
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    Oh my god, why is that kind of resolution necessary dude? Do you really demand that kind of fine res? Wow..
     
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    You don't know ViciousXUSMC. He's an OCD video freak.
     
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    He's probably got 3 screen for Eyefinity :D

    The only DX11 thing it supports is Tesselation, still running shader 3.0 . I can't max it DX11 1080p so I'm playing 1360x766 and since it's a console port, you don't notice the lower resolution.

    EDIT: Hmm? The only difference I saw between Dx9 and 11 was that the later pushes my GPU 100% load versus 90% and does not run smooth maxed out 1080p.

    EDIT:2 Nvm, it was running DX11 in both. Just tesselation on/off. How do you switch between the 2? Modifying the config xml files does not seem to work.
     
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    I am waiting for next CCC Driver, current CCC9.11 and CCC9.11Dirt2HotFix are not good for me.

    Anyone here know how to switch between DirectX 9 and DirectX 11 of Dirt 2?
     
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    Does anyone know if you have a DX10 card like the one in my sig, that it will use DX10 by default? Or is this either DX9 or DX11? Going back to the extremely high res gaming, why is this necessary? It's just putting unecessary stress on the GPU to me. Thankfully you don't notice lower resolutions much. I wish you could switch between DX9 and the max DX supported by your card, sort of like CoD2 being able to switch between DX7 and DX9 render method in-game.
     
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    For Dirt 2, it's only either DX9 and DX11 version. There's no any other version you can switch between.

    That's why I am asking how to switch between them, as far as I know, I am using DirectX 11 to play now. I want to try the DirectX 9's.
     
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    I played some today. I was waiting so long for it to release and it was late. Steam store had it say it was out but the game manager did not have it released.

    I found a post on steam forums on how to find your CD key in your registry. With that I was able to launch it manually and play the full version before it was released. Was able to save and go online and everything.

    I have not launched it through steam yet now that it is released to see if I have to start a new save or anything like that.

    I really like the game, graphics are top notch the flow of the game is great, has a energetic soundtrack.

    Seems to be a mix between sim like and arcade with plenty of challenge.

    Apparently I suck at this game though, the only event I am good at is land rush with my big truck, stuff like rally I really suck at.

    Not sure if I should be listening to my navigator and keeping my eye on the road or trying to eye down the map display while I drive. I went online and because I was playing early I was playing against guys from another country and they were all much better than me. I dont think I even finished my first 4 rally races....

    Id like to try DX9 also, from what I heard there is a pretty large performance hit using DX11 instead of DX9 and those few effects its good for I think I would rather have the high frame rate.

    My game is set to all High w/ 2xAA but I found out just before I quit playing that High is not the highest, it goes to Ultra on each setting and in DX11 at the res I use my card can not handle Ultra settings at all, infact even just the post processing or Ultra water setting drops me from 42fps to 10fps.
     
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    Cheer man. 1st, turn the Post Process to Low(most critical). Set Water and Object to Ultra. It won't kill the FPS for sure after turning Post Process to Low. The rest you can set High or Low or Medium and don't go for Ultra already as they will kill some FPS again.
     
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    Tell me, do I need DX11 on my Geforce GT 230M ? Will it work?

    If so, where do I find DX11?
     
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    You do not need it, game will run DX9 for you.

    DX11 is for those with the newer high end ATI cards only as of right now.
     
  36. DarkSilver

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    You can't find any DirectX 11 using your Geforce GT 230M as currently there's NO NVIDIA GPUs can use DirectX 11.

    DiRT 2 can run on either DirectX 9 or DirectX 11. If you don't have DX11, it will run on DX9 basically.

    Windows Vista and 7 both support DirectX 11 GPUs while Windows XP only supports up to DirectX 9. Sad for XP.
     
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    But does that also matters to Tesselation and other effects?
     
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    yeah there are some DX11 only effects, they wont matter to most people though and you would need a really strong rig to run them with a good frame rate.
     
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    Wow, thanks for the info.. thats sucks. lol
    Pretty impressive technological-related facts though.. tell me, what games are using the DX11 advatages besides Dirt 2? Dont think MW2 uses it, does is?
     
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    MW2 no, there are like 2 or 3 games that use it to some extent with more on the way.
     
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    2 or 3 atm? omg.. thats why u dont hear that much about 11..
    Just read that that latest Batman game also uses it, kinda.

    But why ATi, and not the "leading innovator" Nvidia?
    Seems odd for a Microsoft run company to join forces with ATi instead of their 'trusted partner' Nvidia?
     
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    As usual the all mighty google and wikipedia knew more than any one man could.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_games_with_DirectX_11_support
     
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    Ultra is tesselation. So at your res it must be crazily hard.
     
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    Anybody else getting stutters while racing?? My framerates are fine, and the benchmark test in game runs at 55avg, and 45 min, but I get constant stutters and even some brief pauses.

    I'm not sure it's graphics related either, as even on 640x480 and all low, it stutters just as bad. From some tweaking with everything I could think of, I seem to have reduced them a bit at the begininng of a race, but by the end they are back.... memory leak maybe? I have no idea, but it's very frustrating.

    UPDATE: It's wierd, one time a race will run smooth, then the next it'll stutter, with no real ryhme or reason... same track, settings, etc... Just ran a rally and all worked great, but the next one, stuttered the whole time... played again, and was smooth. confused
     
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    I think you didn't turn on the V-SYNC.
    Turn it on and you won't have any screen shuttering or tearing anymore.
    However, V-SYNC is resources hog.
     
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    I thought Vsync was just limiting the frame rates to the refresh rate?
     
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    The Microsoft Xbox 360 uses a custom ATi chip.

    So they joint forces there too!
     
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    It does, that what cases the tearing on the screen, the frame rate not limiting to the refresh rate if it's not turned on.
     
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    Yes but he also said it is a ressource hog. How?
     
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    It's not a resource hog, it just sets a fixed FPS, and your FPS can drop in half if it falls below that fixed FPS. So if you're over 60FPS it'll run at 60 FPS, syncing to your refresh. If it drops below 60 fps for a few frames, it'll run at 30FPS. No resource hog, just nature of the beast.
     
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