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    Dirt 2

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by spradhan01, Dec 1, 2009.

  1. DarkSilver

    DarkSilver MSI Afterburner

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    It's not really "resources hog" but it's virtually a "resources hog".
    Reviews shown V-SYNC uses some resources too.
    Y-SYNC is good when the natural FPS is more than 60(example 100FPS), so, it will reduce it and make it same with your screen FPS to reduce shuttering and tearing. Take note that, more than 60FPS will causes your images to be teared or jagged.
    However, if the natural FPS is lower than 60, for example 40FPS.
    If you didn't turn on Y-SYNC, it's running fine because it's below your screen FPS now. Yet, if you turn the Y-SYNC on even it's now 40FPS(natural), you will experience serious LAG. Because the 40FPS will get reduce to a very number due to Y-SYNC. Obviously, very low FPS will make LAG.
     
  2. be77solo

    be77solo pc's and planes

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    nah, it's not V-sync related... I know what tearing looks like. EDIT: Also, it stutters equally both with and without vsync enabled.

    It's an actual stutter, ie everything pauses for a split second. Haven't run into it in a while, but back in the hayday of flight sims, we fought it fairly regularly. The basic framerate is fine, but it goes something like this:

    50fps for 2 seconds.....pause......50,50,50.... pause.... etc

    Then entire game engine just pauses for an ever so slight bit, ie stutter... sound, control, and graphics. Very annoying, and like I said, intermittent.

    Played some more last night, ran 3 rally's perfectly, then the next stuttered. Then, out of desperation, restarted the race, and the exact same race, settings, etc ran smooth. Then a couple races later, the stutter was back. Very wierd. EDIT 2: As mentioned in my past post, it is not dependant on settings, ie, low stutters the same as on medium or high settings and resolutions.

    Thanks for any ideas, baffled on this one.

    If it was just my hardware not being fast enough, it would be consistently slow. This is like something game engine wise slowing everything down randomly.

    EDIT #3 Anybody remember Need For Speed Most Wanted on Xbox 360, it had a very similar problem and was why I couldn't play it. Here's a snip from a review online that describes the problem in that game, which is the same basic problem I'm having with Dirt 2:

    "This game has a big problem on the 360. There is something wrong with the framerate, it's not that the games framerate constantly gets low. The problem is that it stutters for a fraction of a second, but it does this all the time making the game almost unplayable for me. I've tried this at normal res, 720p and 1280x1024 via VGA cable and they all stutter.
    Maybe it's only picked up by certain people who are more sensitive to this kind of thing but it completely spoiled what looks to be an above average racer.
    The graphics themselves seem nice and crisp, the cars handle ok, obviously very arcadey but they seem solid enough.
    Unfortunately the problems with the framerate mean I just cannot bring myself to play the game."

    I know, totally different, but it was the last game experience I've had that was like this.

    Sorry for the novel!
     
  3. ViciousXUSMC

    ViciousXUSMC Master Viking NBR Reviewer

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    I finally got some game time in today after not playing the day before.

    My skill level went up 3 fold compared to when I last played so that makes me happy.

    Its probably in part due to experience, but also largely in part I think to my new settings. On the offical dirt 2 forums somebody had the settings they used for there logitech wheel and I copied them.

    So if you use a wheel I would try these settings I think it helped me a lot.

    From top to bottom in the advanced wheel config screen.

    0
    65
    2
    0
    100
    10
    90

    I just wrote the settings in order I didnt label them on my sheet but I remember most of them.

    0% Steering Deadzone
    65% Steering Saturation (was 100% I think default)
    2% Something for Steering I think linearity (was 4% default)
    0% Throttle Deadzone
    100% Throttle Saturation
    10% Brake Deadzone (was 0% default)
    90% Saturation (was 100% default)

    Game is good fun, hope next time I go online I dont embarass myself so much :D and I still stuck at rally with the navigator and the faster version of it.
     
  4. hanming

    hanming Notebook Evangelist

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    Hi guys, I recently got the 5770 for my desktop and paired it with another 4850. If i play dirt 2, will the game use both cards or just one? Is it gonna work?
     
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    ViciousXUSMC Master Viking NBR Reviewer

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    Just one, you CAN use CrossfireX with different cards in the same generation like a 4850 and a 4870 but you cant cross generations and use a 5000 series card with a 4000 series card.
     
  6. hanming

    hanming Notebook Evangelist

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    Thank you for pointing out...that's depressing...
     
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    ViciousXUSMC Master Viking NBR Reviewer

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    I had to sell my two 4850's to upgrade to a single 5870, the actual performance increase is not very great and it came at a significant cost but the eyfinity technology and DX11 support make up for it in spades.

    If my case was large enough I would have been better off spending just a bit more money and getting two 5850's though, but crossfire support is not working in eyefinity yet so I opted for the 5870 single, and its just not as good of a card for the money.

    Now the 5890 did not exist yet it would have worked well eyefinity is working with its internal crossfire but it doesnt have the 4 outputs and I use all 4.

    So guess I may need a bigger computer case and another 5870 down the road :D

    Honestly I am waiting for a 4gb version of the 5890 to upgrade too, id rather keep it just 1 card but for 5760x1200 the card really needs 2GB of ram not just 1. In crossfire you only use the amount of ram of one card. So 2 1GB cards = 1GB of usable ram thus the need for a 2GB card or a 4GB dual card.
     
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  9. spradhan01

    spradhan01 Notebook Virtuoso

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    The game is nice. All I hate about this game is missing DX 10. Its lame to play it in DX9 when my GPU is DX10 capable.
     
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    hanming Notebook Evangelist

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    Hi guys. i recently got the dirt 2 to play with it but i have a problem. it seems that the game runs in dx9 mode even tho i have 5770.... I think it is in dx9 mode because i don't see the tessellation in the graphic option.... can someone help me?
     
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    It's better for you to run it at DX9 Mode actually.
    DX11 is laggier than DX9 because DX11 is very heavy.
    You can set-up high-ultra setting on DX9 but I think DX11, you can't.
    My HD5870 can't too.
     
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    hanming Notebook Evangelist

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    Yeah.. i can turn everything to the max.... but compare to dx11... is dx11 better than the all high dx9?
     
  13. hanming

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    hi.. can the dirt 2 dx 11 players list all the options in the graphic options? i want to double check whether it is in dx9 mode or dx 11 mode. thx :)
     
  14. ViciousXUSMC

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    Pretty much any of the "Ultra" options are DX11 Tesslization and only on DX11 mode.
     
  15. Cheeseman

    Cheeseman Eats alot of Cheese

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    Half of my settings are on Ultra and the rest are on High, so I'm guessing people that have DirectX11 cards have an option for Ultra with the settings that I'm limited to High?
     
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    Probably, or you just getting part of the effect of Ultra.
     
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    Hey guys, what exactly is this "tesslization" thing I keep hearing about in dx11? Can someone explain/show a picture of what it does to the graphics?
     
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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9p3PYOX1Vc

    http://hardocp.com/article/2009/11/06/unigine_heaven_benchmark_dx11_tessellation/

    Basically a way to add a lot more polygons and stuff to make more complex shapes without needing to actually render more polygons for the entire game, its done on demand based on your view and location.

    Think of it as the next level of AF except its for polygons instead of textures.
     
  19. DarkSilver

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    Bear in mind that the more the Modeling details and edges(lines), the heavier the resources needed.
    Similar in Workstation, my lecturers always told us to avoid many lines when building the models, so, when "test render", it won't take a lot of time(heavy resources).
    Only add all those lines, when going to render the final or complete version.
     
  20. be77solo

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    Sounds impressive, but why can't they fix the dang stutters? Killin' the experience for those of us with them... about six threads on the Codemasters forums about them, but nobody can fix them
     
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    Studders? I dont have any well I do now with the new 9.12 drivers I get a small slowdown near water I think and at random but it was rock solid on 9.11.
     
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    be77solo pc's and planes

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    Yeah, its driving me nuts. The framerate is fine, but the game will pause for a brief moment. It's wierd because it's not all the time, but once it starts, it does it for the entire race. Settings don't really seem to change it, especially once it starts, but hi, low or anything in between, certain races stutter throughout. But, it's not always the same race, ie if I shutdown the game, and try the race again, it may play perfectly smooth.

    Some are blaming a memory leak, others think it's sound related. I'm not sure. Very annoying though. And, it seems to happen on both NVidia and ATI hardware, so don't think it's a specific driver issue for those of us with the problem.

    But, not everyone does. Weird.
     
  23. DarkSilver

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    You mean those "lag" on the brushes or trees areas?
    I get those shuttering problem when I am using Original CCC 9.11.
    After I changed it to CCC 9.11 hotfix, the problem gone.
    When Original CCC 9.12 released, I installed, the shuttering problem strikes again but not as much as Original CCC 9.11.
    After that, CCC 9.12 hotfix released, I install it and it cures the problem and it's BEST driver for me currently as it improve my 3DMarkVantage and real game play performances.

    TS, when installing 9.12 or 9.12 hotfix, remove the previous driver FTW. It fixes some bugs.
     
  24. be77solo

    be77solo pc's and planes

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    Nah, I'm running Nvidia hardware, and it's not really graphics or terrain related... just starts and continues throughout the race. Very annoying.
     
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