Do you recommend me Qosmio F60-14Q for gaming

Processor: Intel® Core™ i7-740QM Processor @1.73 / 2.93 Turbo
Front Side Bus : 1333 MHz
6Mb L3 Cache

8GB DDR3 RAM @ 1066 GHz

Toshiba TruBrite® HD TFT High Brightness display with LED backlight with 16 : 9 aspect ratio @1,366 x 768

NVIDIA® GeForce® GT 330M with CUDA™ technology
1,024 MB dedicated VRAM (available graphics memory can be expanded using system memory, through TurboCache™ technology: up to 4,606 MB with 8 GB system memory installed and pre-installed 64-bit operating system).
memory type : DDR3 Video RAM (resp. Video RAM and system memory combined)
connected bus : PCI Express®

max. resolution : 2,048 x 1,536
max. refresh rate : 100 Hz
non-interlaced resolution with max. refresh rate : 1,920 x 1,200

750Gb @ 5400 rpm

 

It will play games on medium..

 

which laptops will play it on high graphics?

 

the GT330M is ca. HD5650M/HD5730M level. At this resultion it will run most games on medium. I would recommend getting something better to run with a i7 quad core. GPU will run at its limit but CPU isnt used at all. This is very unbalanced since i5 480M CPUs are paired with this GPU. Go for a HD5870M or a GT555M.

 

Or even better:
GTX460M
GTX485M SLi

 

You do realize the insane power difference between a single 460m and 485m sli?

A better option would be 460m/560m or 460mSLi/485m if you're a nvidia fan.

6970m for AMD fans

 

You should be looking at something like this for high settings:
custom gaming laptops - Welcome to Sager Notebooks

Don't actually buy it from Sager. Look for a reputable (I'm presuming you are in the European area) European reseller, and buy it.

 

I think this processor is good since it has 4 cores! what do you think? is there any better recommendations?!

 

Omar you're getting it wrong.
You can have an hexacore but with a crappy gpu you don't go anywhere.
So a gt330m will delude your aspectations as soon you're into your first half hour.
In 4 moths the laptop will not be able to run anything and you'll be forced to sell it for cheap.

So a fast advice: choose either i5-460m + hd5870m, i7-620m/820qm+hd5850m/hd5870m.
If you like nvidia then replace all the Hd's with a gtx460m/gtx560m.
Forget about optimus like GT420/425/520/525/555m because if gaming is your main thing then those cards are a low/medium gaming cards.

 

Kingpinzero, what about GeForce® GTX 460M with CUDA™ technology (1.5GbDDR5)
GeForce® GTS 360M with CUDA™ technology (1GbDDR5)
NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 560M w/NVIDIA® Optimus™ Technology (1.5GbDDR5)

like on the Qosmio X500-14H

what do you think? are they capable of high graphics experience?

 

Kingpinzero, what about GeForce® GTX 460M with CUDA™ technology (1.5GbDDR5)
GeForce® GTS 360M with CUDA™ technology (1GbDDR5)
NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 560M w/NVIDIA® Optimus™ Technology (1.5GbDDR5)

like on the Qosmio X500-14H

what do you think? are they capable of high graphics experience

 

If your set on a Qosmio, you need to dismiss the very outdated F60 and x500.

Toshiba just released the x700 series which comes with the GTX 560m 1.5 GB card.


As others have stated, if you need an even more powerful gaming system (GPU wise), get a CLEVO based laptop or Alienware.

Good luck

 

how is gaming and your graphics performance with this qosmio?

 

x770 has a GTX 560m, so it is comparable to any laptop with the same card.
Here's the USA Toshiba page for the Qosmios (they also sale the x505 series in addition to the x770).
Toshiba Direct | Qosmio Laptops & Notebook Computers

Here's some data on the GTX 560m card. Scroll to the bottom of the page and look at game benchmarks. The GTX 560m is only marginally better than the GTX 460m GPU.
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 560M - Notebookcheck.net Tech

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Like I said, the x770 will perform like any other laptop with the GTX 560m GPU. That includes ASUS G74, msi GT683. This card is also faster than what the HP Envy has to offer.

Again, the fastest laptops would be Alienwares and SAGER/CLEVO based laptops (with ATI 6970m or GTX 485/GTX 580 GPU). However, these will also cost more.

Good luck

 

the m14x has 1.5GB DDR3 NVIDIA® GeForce® GT 555M using NVIDIA Optimus™ technology

OR

GeForce® GTX 460M with CUDA™ technology (1.5GbDDR5)


which is better?

Again you didn't tell me about yur gaming experience in you q8102X

 

the m14x has 1.5GB DDR3 NVIDIA® GeForce® GT 555M using NVIDIA Optimus™ technology

OR

GeForce® GTX 460M with CUDA™ technology (1.5GbDDR5)


which is better?

 

The 460m is the better card you can compare them here.

Mobile Graphics Cards - Benchmark List - Notebookcheck.net Tech

 

The Qosmio x505 q8102x is a very fast gaming machine. BUT, the x770 is slightly faster with the GTX 560m card and has EXTRA hardware upgrades for the same price (1 TB drive, more ram, aluminum chassis vs plastic chassis, but smaller 17.3" screen).


Again look here to see game benchmarks for the GPU card. This will give you an idea the the gaming performance you will get.
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 560M - Notebookcheck.net Tech

As "Kennies" has mentioned: GTX 560m > GTX 460m >>> GT 555m [GT cards are a different class from GT X cards].


You never mentioned your budget. If it is higher than the vibe you've given here, then get an Alienware m17x or m18x with a ATI 6970m card, or SAGER NP8170 w/ ATI 6970m.


Good luck

 

my budget is around 1250->1450$ max

 

Sager NP8130 (Built on Clevo P151HM1) Custom Sager Laptop

Start here.

 

^o) it's the first time I hear about this computer manufacturer!! What's its status? Are they well cooled? Do they overheat! Even If it's fluent there is no service for this brand! (I live outside the USA)

 

1: Clevo is one of the best known gaming OEM's and have made them for years. other than SOME business class units they make the best cooling. they are more known for making laptops and having other manufacturers put their name on them.

2: I believe Clevo has resellers all over the world I know in the Clevo forum there are people in all corners of the world.

unlike Toshiba, HP, Dell, Apple etc they actually MAKE their own laptops ( Clevo - Sager is a rebrand of it )

 

lol. I mentioned them 3 times; CLEVO/SAGER

Sager is a good highend laptop manufacturer [they use CLEVO laptops as their base]. There are some pitfalls to a SAGER: not well known, availability of parts for self repairs (in future), and they only offer depot repairs vs Onsite repairs. However, they do offer lots of customization to your laptop build; which I view as a huge plus.


Good luck

 

The 460m and 560m are high level gpus. They will be able to play most games at high-max settings, and in a few years, probably med settings.

Don't even bother with the 360m. It'll game at 'medium' at best, and in a few years will be obsolete

 

im certain they are mid level. and its pretty easy to make a 560 choke on games comapred to a 470/480 or 6870/6970

 

6870 = 5870 = 560M. Also 470M/480M < 6970M < 485M by 5-8%.

 

I think I will stick on these two laptops:
Qosmio X500-14H & Qosmio X775-Q7270

Here are the specs:

Qosmio X500-14H
-Intel® Core™ i7-740QM Processor 1.73 / 2.93 Turbo GHz 1333 MHz 6 MB L3 Cache
-8GB DDR3 @1066 MHz
-1.5TB @ 5400rpm
-Toshiba TruBrite® Full HD TFT High Brightness display with 16 : 9 aspect ratio
internal resolution : 1,920 x 1,080

-NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 460M with CUDA™ technology
1,536 GDDR5 Video RAM MB dedicated VRAM (total available graphics memory using TurboCache™ technology can be up to 5,118 MB with a 64-bit operating system and 8 GB system memory) PCI Express
-max. resolution : 2,048 x 1,536
-max. refresh rate : 100 Hz
non-interlaced resolution with max. refresh rate : 1,920 x 1,200

Qpsmio X775-Q7270
-Intel® Core™ i5-2410M Processor 2.3 / 2.9 Turbo GHz 1333 MHz 3 MB L3 Cache

-NVIDIA GeForce GTX 560M with NVIDIA OptimusTM Technology
1.5GB of GDDR5 discrete graphics memory
NVIDIA OptimusTM technology automatically switches graphics
Total Available Graphics Memory = 4095MB
-6GB DDR3 @ 1333MHz
-640GB @ 7200 rpm
-17.3" TFT Display (HD+) 1600x900
Supports 720p content
16:9 Aspect Ratio
LED Backlight

What do you think which one is better since both have the same price!!!

 

Why not getting better gaming laptop for the same price, with better specs and sexier style Qosmio is so bulky.

or

Get better model of Qosmio if you want to play on high details. 330m is outdated.

 

Where do you see now talking abt 330m? i was talking abt GTX 460M and GTX 560M many guys told me these are one of the best graphic cards on the market and are high end!

You told me "better gaming laptop with the same price" like what alienware m14x and sager!
Sager doesn't have maintenance/service support in my area! I don't live nor in usa nor in Europe! So it will be high risk buying it incase it needed maintenance. About Alineware they also didn't release yet in the middle east! If I want to buy one I'll have to buy it from the us and shipping it to the middle east (area where I am living). Also Alineware doesn't have yet maintenance/service support in the middle east because as I said before they are not yet released in the middle east! (risky as for sager).So I chose qosmio where all services are available in my area including maintenance!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
lol!!! again my bubget is around 1250->1450$$$$

That's my whole whole story!

 

Qosmio X500-168​

Qosmio X500-14H
Intel® Core™ i7-740QM Processor
1.73 / 2.93 Turbo GHz 6MB L3 Cache
8GB DDR3 1066MHz
1.5TB HDD @5400 rpm
Full HD TFT High Brightness display with 16 : 9 aspect ratio
1,920 x 1,080
1.5 DDR5 Dedicated GTX 460M with CUDA™ technology​

Intel® Core™ i7-720QM Processor 1.60 / 2.80 Turbo GHz 6MB L3 Cache
8GB DDR3 1066MHz
1.1TB HDD @5400 rpm
Full HD TFT High Brightness display with 16 : 9 aspect ratio
1,920 x 1,080
1 GB DDR5 Dedicated GTS 360M with CUDA™ technology​

Which one will perform better for high graphics? Many users recommended me the 460M GTX!

 

the Qosmio x500-14h will outperform the qosmio x500-168 slightly, this is due to a 740qm-720qm and the 460m-360m. The x500-14h should be roughly 10-20% faster.

These may run some games at High settings, but more realistically it would be a med/high machine

 

Where in the middle east are you located? I would go for whatever you can get that will have service for you. Alienware does service some parts of the middle east, but not many.

 

You don't need to make 2 threads.

 

Lebanon/Saudi Arabia! (lebanese)

 

Marhaba, I am Egyptian, but the service in Saudi Arabia leaves a lot to be desired. It is not as good, as you will have to send it in to Dell to repair which can take anywhere from 1-2 months.

 

This Is what I give conclusion!
GTX560/460M>>>>>GT330M
because the fact that GTX have a DDR5 vs a DDR3

As GTS 360M has a DDR5 memory capabilities which is actually 1GB DDR5 it beats a GT 330M.

Now a GTX 560/460M beats a GTS 360M because
GTX have a total memory of 5GB vs a 2GB for a GTS 360M

right?

So In Big CONCLUSION!

GTX 560/460M>>>GTS 360M>GT330M

what do you think of my thinking guys?

 

That is right, but the Vram doesn't make a difference beyond 1 gb
good to have, but not earth shattering performance difference. I would go with the Qosmio X500-14H. Since the higher gaming systems service contracts are out of reach.

 

Yes, I think X500-14H and X500-101 will perform @ high graphics

What about the GTS 360M @ 1GB DDR5 will it be capable of high gaming? I know that the GTX 460/560 will perform better!

 

memory amount (vram) it's not the right indicator of performance comparison;
go for the 460m, and do your homework learning that 192 vs 96 shaders and 192 vs 128 memory bus it's what you need to look at;
Also cpu it's slightly better on the model that have gtx 460m;
cheers

 

Get the GTX 560m/460m. The GTS 360m is not only 30% slower than the 560/460, but has heat issues: look up "Qosmio heat issues". I believe the 360m is a poor choice and was a blunder by Toshiba (as the GTS 360m was an OVERCLOCKED GTS 260m). A lot of laptop didn't even use the GTS 360m to begin with.

The GTX560m/460m has a proven track record to be very fast, very reliable, and very COOL (no heat issues).

Good luck and have fun with your new laptop.

 

The GTS 360m is not worth buying IMO. I would go for the x500-14h, that wil get you Med-high gaming not very high or ultra which would be something similar to my R2. I can run any game ultra/very high @ 1200p AA 4-8x and AF 16x. The Qosmio will not be able to run games like that, more like medium high settings no AA maybe 8-16x AF@ 1080p. This is not bad, but it will show it's age faster than my R2 will.

 

what quality GTS 360M @ 1GB DDR5 will it be capable? will it be capable of high quality? maxx

 

No way at all will the 360 be capable of high quality, go for the 460 and don't put any more thought into the 360m anymore. You will not max out any really demanding game on that system. Depends on what you play really, What games do you play?

 

For the 4th time, look here:

Comparison of Laptop Graphics Cards - Notebookcheck.net Tech

GTX460 [class 1]: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 460M - Notebookcheck.net Tech

GTX560 [class 1]: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 560M - Notebookcheck.net Tech

GTS360 [now classified as a CLASS-2 card]: NVIDIA GeForce GTS 360M - Notebookcheck.net Tech

Class 1 > Class 2

 

right the 460 will for the most part perform similar/better than a 5850 which is one step lower than one of my 5870's and will even match or beat one of my GPU's in some games.

"The GTX 460M was on par with the DDR3 based Mobility Radeon HD 5850. In actual game benchmarks and tests, the performance was better than a HD 5850 with GDDR5 on average. In some cases (e.g., Unigine Heaven 2.1 and Dirt 2 Demo), the card even beat a Mobility Radeon HD 5870"

 

What do you think about those?

Toshiba Qosmio X505-Q894 -
Core i7740QM 1.73 GHz 2.93 Turbo 6MB L3 - 18.4″ TFT 16:9 Aspect Ratio 1680 x 945 - 4 GB DDR3 Ram 1066 MHz- 500 GB HDD @ 7200 rmp- NVIDIA GeForce GTX 460M TurboCache 1.5GB DDR5 with ® OptimusTM Technology
1250$

Toshiba Qosmio X505-Q892 -
Core i5-460M 2.53 GHz 2.8 Turbo 3MB L3 - 18.4″ TFT 16:9 Aspect Ratio 1680 x 945 - 4 GB DDR3 Ram 1066MHz - 500 GB HDD @ 7200 rpm - NVIDIA GeForce GTX 460M TurboCache 1.5GB DDR5 with ® OptimusTM Technology
1000$

Toshiba Qosmio X775-Q7270 - Core i5-2410M 2.53 2.9 Turbo 3MB L3 - 17,3″ TFT 16:9 Aspect Ratio 1600x900 - 6 GB DDR3 Ram 1333MHz - 640 GB HDD @7200rpm - NVIDIA GeForce GTX 560M 1.5GB DDR5 with ® OptimusTM Technology 1200$

If I would like to stick with i5 I would go with the X775!
As I mentioned before all have the GTX graphics card which will be able to operate with high settings/performance right?

What do you think about these three Sytems? I need your opinion!

 

What do you think about those?
Toshiba Qosmio X505-Q894 -
Core i7740QM 1.73 GHz 2.93 Turbo 6MB L3 - 18.4″ TFT 16:9 Aspect Ratio 1680 x 945 - 4 GB DDR3 Ram 1066 MHz- 500 GB HDD @ 7200 rmp- NVIDIA GeForce GTX 460M TurboCache 1.5GB DDR5 with ® OptimusTM Technology
1250$

Toshiba Qosmio X505-Q892 -
Core i5-460M 2.53 GHz 2.8 Turbo 3MB L3 - 18.4″ TFT 16:9 Aspect Ratio 1680 x 945 - 4 GB DDR3 Ram 1066MHz - 500 GB HDD @ 7200 rpm - NVIDIA GeForce GTX 460M TurboCache 1.5GB DDR5 with ® OptimusTM Technology
1000$

Toshiba Qosmio X775-Q7270 - Core i5-2410M 2.53 2.9 Turbo 3MB L3 - 17,3″ TFT 16:9 Aspect Ratio 1600x900 - 6 GB DDR3 Ram 1333MHz - 640 GB HDD @7200rpm - NVIDIA GeForce GTX 560M 1.5GB DDR5 with ® OptimusTM Technology 1200$

If I would like to stick with i5 I would go with the X775!
As I mentioned before all have the GTX graphics card which will be able to operate with high settings/performance right?

What do you think about these three Sytems? I need your opinion!

 

It's up to you. If just gaming, an i5 should be fine with most games.

But remember, the x505 has a 18.4" screen and weighs 11 lbs (about 5-6 kilos).

The x775 is 17.3" screen and weighs 7.5 lbs.

 

Is this laptop going to be used purely for gaming and will you be moving about a lot. Its just you seem to want to play games on high settings and if you dont move aroung a lot a desktop might be a better solution as you can get far more performance for your money. Out of those i would choose the last one as it has a sandy bridge processor which will run cooler and will possible support switchable graphics so that you can get some decent battery life out of the system. It also has the more powerful GTX560m. The first one of them has the most powerful processor although its a last generation i7 so will run hotter than any of the other processors.

What kind of games do you play The i7 in the first one would be good for strategy games and games like WOW. Some games on the other hand might run better on the more powerfult gtx560m in the last system.

Edit: Im not sure but if it is you might be able to upgrade the last of the systems to a sandy bridge i7 at a later date which would give you a far faster system than the other two.

 

Definitely go for the X775!