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    Does CPU performance help/hurt integrated graphics performance?

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by slayerfaith1982, Oct 24, 2007.

  1. slayerfaith1982

    slayerfaith1982 Notebook Evangelist

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    I have heard that integrated CPUs put more workload on the CPU then dedicated. This made me curious about if you had 2 identical integrated GPUs, would the performance of one be better say if one were configured with a dual core CPU and the other a faster single core? Or are they completely seperate, and it doesn't matter as long as it's a fairly fast CPU, integrated GPU performance will be the same?
     
  2. adinu

    adinu I pwn teh n00bs.

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    Dual vs single core won't matter in terms of IGP performance.

    But a slow cpu vs a fast cpu will most definitely affect gaming performance with an integrated gpu.
     
  3. slayerfaith1982

    slayerfaith1982 Notebook Evangelist

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    So if it were between a 2ghz single core with integrated GPU vs. a 1.9ghz dual core with an integrated GPU, performance would pretty much be equal?
     
  4. Eleison

    Eleison Thanatos Eleison

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    Equal as far as pure graphical power, yes. Not so much as far as general computing power, since the dual-core will handle multi-tasking and multi-threaded applications much better than the single-core.
     
  5. slayerfaith1982

    slayerfaith1982 Notebook Evangelist

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    Okay cool. Just was curious cuz I used to have those specs (single core turion 2ghz and ati 1150 graphics) but now have 1.9X2 turion w/ ati 1270 graphics.

    I played that downloadable 10 day WoW demo thing on my old lappy, and it ran ok but chopped up anytime you were in cities where there were a lot of people (sometimes kinda severely), and was thinking this one would perform better. Thing is though that I was gonna run out n buy the $40 WoW battlechest w/ burning crusade bundled in, and didn't wanna drop the $ if the performance was still going to bite the big one lol
     
  6. Eleison

    Eleison Thanatos Eleison

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    Honestly, the choppiness in WoW, from what I've seen, has more to do with RAM than it does with video power.

    You may want to register another trial account and try again on your new laptop, just to see if the performance is any better on your new system.
     
  7. slayerfaith1982

    slayerfaith1982 Notebook Evangelist

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    Hmm last lappy had 2gb ram and so does this. I might try the trial version again and uninstall it or whatever I guess when I'm done to strat fresh. Wonder if you have to have individual email accounts each time though? Hope not. I hate creating new yahoo/gmail/hotmail accounts for stupid reasons like that lol
     
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    crinzema Notebook Evangelist

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    There are new games that are taking advantage of multiple cores.
     
  9. IntelUser

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    Not only your new laptop has a dual core CPU, it has a faster integrated GPU also. ATI X1150 is based on the Xpress 200 on the desktop, and X1270 is based on the AMD 690G. Wow benefits very little from dual core if at all so if there is any performance increase it will be from the GPU.
     
  10. slayerfaith1982

    slayerfaith1982 Notebook Evangelist

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    I've tried reading reviews of the x1270 versus the 1150, but having difficulty finding good comparisons. I tried to redownload the 10 day demo but it wouldnt let me for some reason or another. So if the 1270 is at least a ...oh I dunno...5-10FPS improvement in WoW over the 1150, then I'd be game. I'm just worried about taking the plunge n dropping $40 on the WoW battlechest.
     
  11. Splave

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    I cant imagine you would have worse performance at all.
     
  12. slayerfaith1982

    slayerfaith1982 Notebook Evangelist

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    Then again there's the other option of the fact i JUST BOUGHT this laptop for 599 on sale, but its back upto 799 at best buy. Just for sh*ts and giggles i posted it on craigslist and have someone offering $700 for it. Since I havent really had time to put much personal stuff on the laptop, I could pull a very small profit, and instead save up for a couple weeks and get something w/ dedicated video so i could assuredly run WoW at max settings with 30+FPS lol

    I just felt that the x1270 wasn't any more powerful then the 1150 cuz the windows experience score is still 3.0. It was 3.0 with the 1150, and the graphics score is still 3.0 with the x1270. Is that a very good measuring tool?
     
  13. slayerfaith1982

    slayerfaith1982 Notebook Evangelist

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    Think that'd be more trouble than it's worth?lol
    I could snag a Vostro 1500 w/ dedicated video for that much $$$. But those are kinda bulky and ugly (just goin by pics). Hmm

    Hell I could get a 8600GT and have more power then i dreamed of (i realize its a mid range card but I've never had a laptop powerful enuff to pay ANY modern game EVER)
     
  14. odin243

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    I'd say it would be worth it to sell the current one and save up for a dedicated video machine.

    And to answer the original question, IGP performance can be highly dependant on CPU (depending on the specific IGP/mobo and the game). And yes, an IGP will benefit from a dual core CPU, if the performance is CPU dependant (which as I said above is determined by the IGP and the game).
     
  15. adinu

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    The x1270 is definitely better than the x1150.

    The 11xxx series is based off the x300 core, while the 12xx series is based off the x700 core.

    But the thing is, if all you play is Wow, then the 1150 is enough. I have the 1100 and it played wow at max res and medium settings pretty smoothly.
     
  16. slayerfaith1982

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    Why is my windows experience graphics score the same between the 1150 and x1270 then? Not that I doubt you, but that's all I have to go off of until I buy the game.

    And when you say you play WoW at those settings, are you always above 30FPS? Or you do regularly dip down into 20-25fps?
     
  17. fabarati

    fabarati Frorum Obfuscator

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    WEI is a reaaaaally bad performance benchmark. It doesn't reflect real world performance at ALL. And your 1,9 GHz Turion X2 is faster than a 2GHz singe core turion.

    But yeah, if you can sell it and get a Vostro with a 8600M GT, do it.
     
  18. slayerfaith1982

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    Thanks for your help. Okay well if everyone is so sure I'll be able to play WOW at 30+ FPS constantly (have 2 gigs of ram as well), on at least medium settings at 1200x800 or 1067x798 (or whatever that 1 resolution is), then maybe I should stick with what I have n take the plunge n pick up the WOW battlechest already
     
  19. odin243

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    Why don't you just get the battlechest, try it on your Gateway, and if the performance is not what you were hoping for you can still sell your Gateway and get that Vostro.