Does anyone have the vbios of Eluktronics MAX 2060? 115w TDP?

The description on Eluktronics website tout the

• 6GB GDDR6 VRAM NVIDIA® GeForce® RTX 2060 Max-P (TDP: 80~115 Watts)

So the limit tdp of this 2060 is 115w? That's a shock! Does anyone have the vbios of that 2060? Or has anyone bought that laptop and extract vbios by nvflash?

I have also tried to modify and hexedit my own vbios by different approaches to restore the checksum but eventually blocked by BIOS certificate 2.0

 

The vBIOS itself has the same low TDP as others.

The power adjustment is done on the fly via low level firmware code being injected between GPU and driver.

 

Thanks for reply, I'm a big fan of you! Used to use some Clevo barebones and familiar with you godlike mod Bios.

In this case, You mean by inserting some power management firmware between the level of bios and OS to adjust the tdp? like some interpretation from Bios to OS driver? Then can we just modify the NV driver to enhance the power?

Also, I found you are at the top of 3dmark notebook ranking, no matter firestrike or timespy. you almost boost the mobile card to the same performance as desktop card. How did you do that? Have you successfully unlock the bios certificate and flash it? Could you give me some key hint? Thank you so much!

 

+1. I, too, am wondering how he achieved such a high score. Is it modded vBios? Or is it hardware related and how to do so?

 

I was reaaallly getting my hopes up when I found this in a google search... The TDP of my RTX 2060 in similar laptop build is locked at 80 and it would be absolutely awesome if this "unlocked" VBIOS could up that to like 90-100. Saying that it seems there isn't much info on this...

 

There is a way to increase the cap to 90W by flashing vbios of other brands which use the 90W version. Also nvidia has launched the "renewed" version of 2060 with 115W but I have not seen any brand equips their new laptop with it atm.

 

This I am aware of. But I am unable to find a vbios that has 2x miniDP functionality. When I flash to another vbios for example from MSI I get perfect 90w tdp BUT I lose miniDP functionality because the laptop the vbios comes from doesn't have those ports.

Finding a vbios with 2x miniDP that is 90w is no easy task. If you have any ideas fire them my way! Thanks!

 

Hey Guys,

Been eyeing this thread for a while.. created an account to ask if any of you found anything functional?

I can see that the 2060 mobile is rated for max 115W...but we're here stuck with 25 less watts.

Thanks for answering.. hope we can figure a way to boost these things up... especially that the gpu on my end doesn't get over 62C... seems like there's headroom.

Cheers

 

The "max" 115W is achieved either by the trick mentioned by Prema on the old 2060 or, currently, by using the refreshed version of 2060 with the rated 115W by Nvidia themselves afaik.
So perhaps when the 2060 refreshed laptops are out, we can use their vBios to flash onto the old 2060 model to increase the TDP allowed, maybe?

 

Nope. Already checked in with @Prema about that. I was hoping the same. Not gonna happen. The hardware ID and firmware signing has been changed by NGREEDIA to make the firmware intentionally incompatible to circumvent any possibility of doing the right thing by last gen GPU customers. In other words, another selfish shafting right up the old posterior orifice from the Green Goblin. The only thing anyone can count on is getting screwed over by tech giants that don't give a damn about anyone but themselves. That's just how they roll.

 

Wow, it almost sounds like the refreshed version's main deal is the increase TDP and not the new memory or regulator and whatsnot and they do not want to see that previous cards can achieve close to the performance of their "upgrades/refreshed". Welp, there goes my hope.

 

It looks like the refreshed GPUs may not offer an improvement in performance anyhow. So, it may not even matter. If fact, the non-Super refreshed GPUs seem to have lower benchmark scores. Perhaps to widen the gap to create an artificial impression of greater superiority for the Super crap.

 

No improvement or even lower scores with the non-Super refreshed GPUs? I hope not. Otherwise the refreshed ones gain nothing but also drawing more power.
I thought about doing a shunt mod but still have not because of the risks of locating the shunt resistors, short them, temperature... and also because of the new promising vBios. But now it is even more tempting to do a shunt mod.

 

Also found the vbios of the new version 2060 actually got shrink in the sum bytes. So it is seems impossible to flash it on the old one. The only fluky thing which the old 2060 users can console themselves could be the emasculated bandwidth on new version.

 

so say i have y msi model with a 2060 80w thats been flashed with a msi x model of 90w....and now i have my hands on z vbios which is 115w ...so i cant flash anymore?

 

If it is not modded you can flash it with NVFLASH. If it is modded you cannot flash it using software because it breaks the Nazi signature crap.

 

no its off a gl65....straight out of it...one thing to note...if u see we have a bit of mismatch and id...is this aproblem?

 

No, the ID mismatch is a normal warning. Just answer "Y" to continue. I even get that flashing the original stock vBIOS on all GPUs now. It's probably just a lame scare tactic the control freaks use to make people afraid of doing something to mitigate firmware engineering failures.

 

so u reckon this could work? they are both 2060 mobile gpus.....its on a gs65 2060 which now has a 90w bios...thinking bout tryig this one since its form another msi....im not too sure bout it though

 

Probably so. You could end up with some weirdness of some sort, but nothing that you cannot undo. For example, if I use a Clevo 2060 vBIOS with my TongFang 2060 the DisplayPort output does not work, but the laptop screen does. With the Intel Graphics you should still be able to get screen output even if the 2060 vBIOS doesn't work well. Just be sure to save the stock vBIOS first in case you need to flash it back.

 

yeah i saved when i went fomr 80w to 90w

 

WARNING: None of the firmware image compatible PCI Device ID's
match the PCI Device ID of the adapter.
Adapter PCI Device ID: 1F11
Firmware image PCI Device ID: 1F15
WARNING: Firmware image PCI Subsystem ID (1462.12B8)
does not match adapter PCI Subsystem ID (1462.1274).
WARNING: None of the firmware image compatible Board ID's
match the Board ID of the adapter.
Adapter Board ID: 00EA
Firmware image Board ID: 01D4
NOTE: Exception caught.
Nothing changed!
ERROR: GPU mismatch

 

Is the vBIOS you are trying to flash from MXM or BGA? Is the VRAM capacity the same? If the answer to either question is different than what you have then it will not wirk.

 

all the same

 

Are you using -6 in the command? If so, then I'm not sure what the deal is. The only other thing that might be the issue is one having Gsync and the other one not.

 

115W VBIOS taken from the MSI GL65-10SEK

Left image is the MSI GS65-8SE with a flashed 90W VBIOS taken from another MSI Laptop.
Second image the GPU-Z output on the MSI GL65-10SEK

Spoiler: COMMAND PROMPT LOG

Code:

C:\Users\Pablo\Desktop\nvflash64_patched_5.590.0>nvflash64_patched_5.590.0  -6 TU106.rom
NVIDIA Firmware Update Utility patched by Vipeax
Copyright (C) 1993-2019, NVIDIA Corporation. All rights reserved.


Checking for matches between display adapter(s) and image(s)...

Adapter: Graphics Device      (10DE,1F11,1462,1274) H:--:NRM  S:00,B:01,D:00,F:00


EEPROM ID (C2,2534) : MX MX25U8033E-MX25U8035F 1.65-2.0V 8192Kx1S, page

WARNING: None of the firmware image compatible PCI Device ID's
match the PCI Device ID of the adapter.
  Adapter PCI Device ID:        1F11
  Firmware image PCI Device ID: 1F15
WARNING: Firmware image PCI Subsystem ID (1462.12B8x
  does not match adapter PCI Subsystem ID (1462.1274).
WARNING: None of the firmware image compatible Board ID's
match the Board ID of the adapter.
  Adapter Board ID:        00EA
  Firmware image Board ID: 01D4

NOTE: Exception caught.
Nothing changed!



ERROR: GPU mismatch

C:\Users\Pablo\Desktop\nvflash64_patched_5.590.0>

Both 1023 kb in size, I have attached a zip file containing the working 90W VBIOS with functional DP for the RTX2060, along with the VBIOS of the 115W variant.

 

Yeah, same for me. Something about the 115W is incompatible. Probably mismatched for something dumb like G-Stink. The 90W vBIOS is totally worthless for me as well. Same as a Clevo vBIOS. My mini-DP ports become non-functional and without the ability to use both of my external monitors this machine becomes totally worthless to me. I bought it for work and can't use it for work with only the laptop screen.

 

Funny, this was the only 90w VBIOS that got my mDP back, possibly because it was from another MSI laptop. I have another 3 90W VBIOS, if you want to try, 2 Razer and one Asus.

Probably dumb question but, did you make sure to reinstall NVIDIA drivers after flashing (only way I could get mDP back)?


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Really? If it works on your TongFang it should work on mine. Thanks for mentioning that.

I will try it again and see. Maybe it will work if I use DDU rather than reinstalling over the top of the existing driver. I did reinstall it but did not use DDU because I was installing the same driver version. Maybe something in the registry needs to be removed using DDU after the firmware flashing.

It is really a shame most if these turdbooks have Optimus. Would be much better with a mux switch to disable the Intel Graphics.

 

No, it still didn't work even after removing drivers with DDU and reinstalling. There is one vBIOS that @Prema provided that works with the mini-DP but the laptop display will not work as a third monitor. The only vBIOS that I can get both mini-DP to work along with the laptop display is the stock one. I rely on using all three display 5 days a week for work, so I will just have to stick with the stock vBIOS. But, that's OK. I am probably going to do a shunt mod anyhow and then it will not matter what firmware it has. The power limit will be more than what the 2060 is capable of drawing. I am hoping that it will draw enough power to exhaust the capacity of the AC adapter and I will have to use my leftover 330W AC adapter for gaming or benching.

 

Interesting read with regards to injecting low level firmware code to increase watt usage. Is there any particular method of this that can be applied to other laptops? I always heard thats where you need a bios programmer and hence the famous pascal TDP tweaker here.

 

The exception could be caused by device ID mismatch, perhaps? The old one is 1F11 while the 115W is 1F15.

 

any update on this thread? same boat with u all on my ge75 8se, got 90w working but not 115w, even the modded nvflash doesnt work

 

I gather that the BIOS listed here with "boost" 1200 are 80W, right? and the 1350 are 90W?

https://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios...&version=&interface=&memType=&memSize=&since=

Where are you guys finding a 115W BIOS?

 

So far the only 115W I/we have found has board ID mismatch no luck flashing with Nvflash.


Edit: DEVICE ID mismatch
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I found a 115W MSI BIOS in this thread, and it seems the guy flashed it successfully to achieve a boost clock of 1560 Mhz.

He did say that he lost some of the output ports though!

https://www.win-raid.com/t5087f16-Requesting-a-modded-vbios-for-Rtx-max-Q.html#msg121135

https://www.win-raid.com/t5087f16-Requesting-a-modded-vbios-for-Rtx-max-Q-1.html#msg121945

 

OK, looks like you're using the same MSI vBIOS as from that link.

The issue you guys are having trying to use it is the cards are 1F11, which is the older 2060 mobile.

The newer models have ID 1F15, which is the refreshed version.

I suspect that my laptop, when it arrives, will be the refreshed 1F15 variant, but I suspect it will be 80W out of the box...

 

Flash with 115W MSI BIOS worked.

 

on 1F11? if so teach us master

 

No, sorry - 1F15.

 

This is all pretty confusing which versions are which, I'm pretty sure my version is the refresh but how do you know the version of that you have 80-90-115? Is it the boost? I've seen a max of 1860Mhz for the gpu in game but on gpuz it's the 1005/1350 which is below the 1560 boost on techpowerup.

https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-rtx-2060-mobile-refresh.c3567

Edit: NVM, mine looks to be the max-q refresh 115w version from the specs, very confusing naming.
https://videocardz.net/nvidia-geforce-rtx-2060-mobile-refresh-max-q

 

Check sustained GPU Power in HWINFO while the GPU is under load.

GPU-Z sensors tab will also show total board power.

 

Yeah while playing cp77 it got up to 95w so it's the middle option. Guess the full 115w is for higher performance or larger laptops.

 

I'll just join this thread so I can keep track of it.
So I got a XMG Core 15 (Tongfang GK5NR0O), which is supposed to boost up to 110W.
(Has 2 mDP and stuff ...)
But currently I'm talking to support, why mine is stuck at 90w, despite me enabling the overboost/ turbo mode which should enable the 2060 to use 110W.
Quite annoying, but whatever, I hope they manage to solve it ...

So if it finally works in future, and there is a way for me to dump the bios and you guys want it, then just tell me how to do it

 

GPU-Z Lets your export your vbios, it's a little arrow symbol on the right hand side of the GUI.

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Well here's the vbios on mine which is the refresh 1f15 90w-95w if it helps anyone. I usually do a msiab light oc of 160/500.

https://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/226698/226698