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    Dox's 180.84.1..Does it provide for Overclocking?

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by stonesrubber, Dec 30, 2008.

  1. stonesrubber

    stonesrubber Notebook Consultant

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    Dox's 180.84.1..Does it provide for Overclocking?
     
  2. SymphonyX

    SymphonyX Notebook Evangelist

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    I suggest you avoid this driver. I've been hearing from a lot of people back in L2VGo that it's killing, yes, literally killing their laptops. If it's not killing their laptops, either they become extremely hot even in idle mode or other features such as wake from sleep, Powermizer and Smartdimmer aren't working.

    Try Nvidia's official 181.00 drivers. They're good and all the functions for laptop GPUs are working properly.
     
  3. stonesrubber

    stonesrubber Notebook Consultant

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    do the official 181s provide for overclocking with riva tuner?
     
  4. SymphonyX

    SymphonyX Notebook Evangelist

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    No. They haven't supported overclocking since 16x.xx Forceware drivers. And why overclock? You're going to kill your laptop for an additional 1-3 FPS? I'm not trying to be self-righteous or anything, I'm just warning you.
     
  5. naticus

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    Where are you getting this info? I have been using dox's drivers without issue. link me to this forum plz.
     
  6. SymphonyX

    SymphonyX Notebook Evangelist

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    LaptopVideo2Go - http://www.laptopvideo2go.com/forum/

    I've used Dox's 178.24 before and it didn't seem to have problems except for the Smartdimmer not working properly. I was supposed to download his latest, the 180.84, but after seeing a lot of people complaining about it. I decided to opt for the official 181.00 instead.
     
  7. stonesrubber

    stonesrubber Notebook Consultant

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    have you tried the 180.70 by him?
     
  8. Dox@LV2Go

    Dox@LV2Go Notebook Consultant

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    unfortunately the more my drivers become popular the more less knowledgable people try to use them, those who have issues with other drivers will try and use mine.

    Since the thread 180.84 is a support thread you will find people writing in there with issues, and all their issues will be compiled in that threadm which makes for messy reading :eek:

    Its not everyone who has issues, if it were the majority, you'd think there would be more uproar that my driver killed their laptop?

    You also have to remember that the older nvidia G86 gpus etc had heat issues with them ;)

    People tend to remember the negatives of the comments in that thread but they never highlight any of the postive comments.

    Since I opended up beta testing, people have emailed saying how much they enjoy using my drivers, they just never post it in that thread since they dont have an issue.
     
  9. stonesrubber

    stonesrubber Notebook Consultant

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    Dox.Let me put it this way. Since i am relatively new here, what do you think i should do? Should i use any of your drivers or the 181s? P.S i intend playing GTA at frame rates close to 35
     
  10. Mormegil83

    Mormegil83 I Love Lamp.

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    Boooooo!!!! Symphonix!!! :frown:
     
  11. stonesrubber

    stonesrubber Notebook Consultant

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    Mormegil. You don't have to say that. May be symphonix experienced an issue with the drivers. which is why i decided to ask dox what i must do.
     
  12. naticus

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    well i have never had an issue with the 180.84.1. They run cooler for me and have better IQ than other drivers.
     
  13. stonesrubber

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    Oh. then i guess i shall try the 180.84.1 too. if i have an issue i shall shift to the 181s
     
  14. Satyrion

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    why did nvidia stop making overclockable drivers anyway?
     
  15. StormEffect

    StormEffect Lazer. *pew pew*

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    As far as I know, they still overclock just fine on desktop GPUs.

    They probably decided to make sure mobile systems couldn't overclock because they don't want people frying their GPUs, requiring Nvidia shell out cash to the OEMs that must fix them. You know how it is, mobile systems have crappier heat exhaust and overclocking them is slightly more dangerous, especially for the average joe who doesn't know to monitor his temps.
     
  16. kal360

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    that explains a great ****ing deal, gta4 became playable but temps were ridiculous lol
     
  17. 0.0

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    I'm confused here, when did they stop making their drivers overclockable? I tried 179.28 and it overclocked fine, if a 9200M GS counts that is.
     
  18. KernalPanic

    KernalPanic White Knight

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    /Sigh

    Dox's latest are quite frankly the best out there overall.

    Completely fry their laptop?

    I have a hard time believing this... as someone who has been in the IT field for 15+ years, I am going to have to call shenanigans on this... inept users tend to blame everything but themselves.

    "I tried overclocking to double stock clocks and my GPU fried, it MUST be the drivers' fault!"

    Mine runs cooler better and everything works on Dox 180.84.1 than any other driver set available to me. This is not to say they are perfect, or that they will be so for every make and model, but they are extremely nice.


    Nvidia's drivers DO allow overclocking... you just need to download the tools which include the correct control panel or get Rivatuner.
    It is possible the laptop manufacturers are indeed placing hardware barriers to overclocking.

    Overclocking within reason is not likely to destroy your laptop if you do so with caution and monitor heat. Do not be fooled, you are shortening the overclocked components' life, but honestly the CPU and GPU are NOT the first things to go on any laptop I have ever worked on. (It's always the power coupling....)
     
  19. SymphonyX

    SymphonyX Notebook Evangelist

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    True that. People always remember the negatives more often. It takes only one bad thing to ruin a reputation, as they say. We can't really blame you if your drivers are working for your video card. But it's just not the same for all video cards. Most of the people who posted in L2VGo complaining about your latest drivers have a Geforce 8600M or Geforce Go 78xx/79xx series GPU. I speculate that your modified 180.84 isn't working too well for anything older than the Geforce 9 series or G92-based GPUs.

    I'm not saying this to defame Dox. I'm just saying this because I want to warn people. Better be noted and safe than be sorry. Feedbacks aren't there for nothing you know.

    EDIT: To those still blabbering about dumb users. Go to LaptopVideo2Go forums and go to Dox's section. He has a stickied section just for his own modded drivers. Some of the people who have complained don't seem to be dumb.
     
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    KernalPanic White Knight

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    Even usually intelligent people sometimes do dumb things and blame something other than themselves. :)
     
  21. Dox@LV2Go

    Dox@LV2Go Notebook Consultant

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    not sure about that one, since I have emails from the betas testing app saying they are on 8600MGT dell, 8600MGT sli, 7950GTX, 790gs etc saying they would like to beta test,
    but I do agree on that seems to be more users with heat issues with those cards, 8600 especially.

    But like I said, that those cards (the older revisions) have a known issue with the bump thermal material which fails causing heat issues. ANd I guess thats what they are experiencing.

    Yah, no hard feeling mate, everyone is entitled to his/her oppinions and comments :).
    Me doing it for fame? Nah, its for personal satisfaction and curiosity, I guess its a hobby.
    A faceless guy on the net cant be classed as truly famous :D
     
  22. Dox@LV2Go

    Dox@LV2Go Notebook Consultant

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    Yeah, its onlt two or three users posting heat issues (last I remember)
    its not like EVERYONE has that with my drivers.

    Also:
    glad you are enjoying the drivers :)
    I'm itching for nvidia to release new drivers since I found some more new nice little stuff to do with them :D
     
  23. Shaythong

    Shaythong Notebook Evangelist

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    Making the GPU run to it's full potential will cause higher temperatures. Some modified drivers can cause this, which is completely normal. The majority of people have different laptop components which means that not all experiences will be the same. Did you even try the stock 180.84 driver, SymphonyX? NVIDIA has a few revisions of the 180.84 beta driver which might affect results. Most of the 180.xx series cannot resume from standby and it isn't the cause of Dox's optimized drivers.
     
  24. Drew90

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    I haven't tried 180.84.1, but I am overclocking great on 180.84. And as for temperature issues maybe a 2-3 degree increase, but its negligible for the power increase. So far no problems for me -- great drivers dox keep it up!
     
  25. stonesrubber

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    Dox, a suggestion. Please do something about the Texture clamps in you 180.84.1 Besides that the Driver is simply amazing. For those whose who has issues, well you are the minority.
     
  26. shadowpocalypse

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    Actually you can fry a video card. I had an emachines T6212 desktop that came w/ an onboard ati x200 integrated video processor. The odd thing is, that when upgrading using the pci-express slot, nvidia cards malfunctioned and the computer would repeatedly shutdown from game use.

    A few different nvidia cards were tried. The ati upgrades worked fine, but the nvidia cards had compatibility issues. They provided a BIOS upgrade which held little if any remedy.

    Anyways, these same few nvidia cards were permanently damaged due to their prolonged exposure to the oddly incompatible issue having motherboard, even while swapped to other, compatible motherboards. The card with the most exposure, had the most persisting problems, the card w/ the least exposure, didn't.

    So yes, you're card can be permanently damaged due to compatibility issues. ESP if it deals with heat.