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    Dragon Age 2 Leaked, But Wait!

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by insanechinaman, Mar 3, 2011.

  1. insanechinaman

    insanechinaman Notebook Evangelist

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    But wait! PS3 version was leaked as well!
     
  3. MagusDraco

    MagusDraco Biiiiiiirrrrdmaaaaaaan

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    suddenly.

    PC version.


    ...

    sometime after it's out.
     
  4. Richteralan

    Richteralan Notebook Evangelist

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    PC

    (10char)
     
  5. Richteralan

    Richteralan Notebook Evangelist

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    ur wrong...the almighty console never gets hacked and no piracy.

    /s
     
  6. JohnnyFlash

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    Sigh... the "everyone else is doing it" argument is never a good one. :(

    You still need modded hardware to use backups, where as any 10 year old can get a pirate PC game running in 10 minutes. I understand the sentiment, but this point is just going to make dev's invest less money in SP games all together. Then it would be equal, just not in the way you're hoping.

    I'm not hard-line anti-piracy, it's just that these threads are always misguided in my opinion.
     
  7. Saisei

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    Why are you guys so surprised....Games on Xbox always leak early before the actual release data, just as crysis was leaked a while ago. When a game is leaked it's to be expected and has been going on for quite some time. :rolleyes:
     
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    no surprise for me there, and I don't think there are lots of people with modded consoles so it's not even serious when compared to PC.
     
  9. stevenxowens792

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    Wonder which Gamestop they are gonna try to trade in their "backed up" copy of Crysis 2 before it's official release. LOL

    But dude, I swear it's not a backup. Wont you give me some store credit for it?
     
  10. insanechinaman

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    Cause... like... you um... you need a PC to go on torrent sites right?!?
     
  11. Richteralan

    Richteralan Notebook Evangelist

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    of course...common sense, right?

    and u'll google for torrent, too...see they sued google?

    /s
     
  12. Kevin

    Kevin Egregious

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    2010 Xbox 360 Piracy Numbers

    1) Dante’s Inferno (1,280,000)
    2) Alan Wake (1,141,000)
    3) Red Dead Redemption (1,060,000)
    4) Halo Reach (990,000)
    5) Call of Duty: Black Ops (930,000)

    Not as bad as PC #, but over 1M is pretty significant.
     
  13. Richteralan

    Richteralan Notebook Evangelist

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    I don't know how they check.

    But the real numbers is far greater than this since modded console is impossible to count if not connected to internet.
    And counting torrent downloads? as LOL as counting one torrent download equals to one lost sales.
     
  14. KernalPanic

    KernalPanic White Knight

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    I remember telling people some time ago that recent consoles were not immune to piracy.

    Almost no one believed me.

    Maybe now they will...
     
  15. daranik

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    If they are basing this number from the number of times a file has been accessed, it doesn't factor in multiple downloads froma single IP. That Said Alan wake still sold tons of copies regardless. If you were to compare the sales figures of units sold of a pc vs console game, the console game beats it always by a large margin. Developers go were the money is, and rightfully so, this is a business, not some after school club that a few guys get together and hang. Now thats not to say they are charging too much for their games, because they are, but they have to weigh the potential amount of revenue lost from dropping the price due the same out of people buying the product + a few people who will buy a cheaper game VS. the amount of money they'd make from gaining maybe half of the million people that pirated it.

    It was never the case that people thought the current consoles could never be pirated, it was a question of how bad it would get, and sony seems to be king of the hill singest it took what 4, 5 years to finally beat the system. XBOX 360 used dvd and that was a huge mistake, insta-pirate!
     
  16. overseer07

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    Piracy is a really small concern in the pricing structure. The 'they charge too much so I steal it' justification doesn't truly hold out, either. People who are going to pirate it are going to do so regardless of the price, and publishers know it. The resale market on these games is far more damaging to the bottom line than piracy, as that's quantifiable money lost from a paying customer. Hence the prevalence of pre-order bonuses and premium DLC; it's designed more to entice those not already committed to purchasing a game from the publisher than it is to reward those that already do.

    Pricing has far more to do with good 'ol supply and demand. The price of games that don't perform as well as expected tends to drop much more quickly than that of blockbuster games.
     
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    Agreed, wasn't arguing that at all, I was more talking about support for pc rather then console, and it comes down to money, and pricing schemes, everyone here feels the gaming industry owes them something and they should get something vastly superior then the rest of the gaming world.
     
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    Gotcha. And absolutely true. The PC market doesn't remotely compare to the console market. As much as I'd love to see the PC market get more love, you can't blame a company for focusing on the more profitable console sector.
     
  19. daranik

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    Exactly, This year should be a nice step in the right direction for pcs, with the new frostbite 2 engine, Cryengine 3, those things, but most players are plaing on consoles. Its hard to justify a pc if you only play casually. Its also great for optimization in the industry, when a console has a 5 year life cycle, you can see just how much developers learn about the current hardware and find new ways to push the hardware father. Look at some of the first games released on PS3 and 360, then compare them to Crysis 2, Resistance 3, Killzone 3, Uncharted 3, Skyrim. They have managed to push DX9 farther and father and father!

    Not saying PC doesn't have its place in gaming, I see laptops really breathing some life into the PC market, games are generally sharper, and have more/better features, not to mention modding really adds to replay value. Also you see the newest technology first gets supported and tested out on the pc, which brings in new features. They both go hand in hand consoles and pcs, one brings hardware change, and the other utilizes it and maximizes performance.
     
  20. tetutato

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    sighh another EA Game leaked? :p
     
  21. Kevin

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    Under development for over 5 years, with huge financial backing, and possibly didn't reach 1 million sales? Alan Wake was a bomb, and one of a large magnitude.
     
  22. daranik

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    My bad, looked at a few sites and didn't realized it bombed, I just wanted to include 360 in the conversation. Regardless :p point is console games sell better.... :)
     
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    Not all consoles, I believe PC games still generate more revenue than Wii games.