ETA for the HD6990m

There have been very little rumors or info about the supposed 6990m(or Blackcomb XTX). Any guesses as to when it might be launched?? And how much more powerful than the 6970m will it be??

 

4Q 2011, supposedly a fully unlocked Blackcomb part with more shaders and higher clock speed according to the AMD roadmap. Ask Phinagle for more details.

You've posted this already in the Clevo forum, if you need a high-end card now the 6990m is not going to be a feasible option.

 

I made no such post in the Clevo forums, you must be confusing me with someone else. I was just hoping the 6990m releases mid july but according to what you said it seems highly unlikely. But how much of a performance improvement, if any, over the 580m can we expect??

 

Apologies about the 2nd part of my last post.

The chatter on other threads is that the 6990m will be officially released Q4 2011, but no retail outlets will ship with the card until next year.

 

It's all pure speculation, so it's pretty pointless to guess how much better/worse it will be compared to another card. We just don't have the details.

Mr. Mysterious

 

Well I have a fully unlocked Blackcomb XTX with 1120 shaders and I get around 12800 GPU points in Vantage on stock. I almost get 15k GPU points with an OC but I'm still working on it. The M15x struggles to power it sometimes.

 

Hello.
widezu69
I have a small question.
I have a MSI GX660, and I plan to purchase HD6970M.
But I see that you have HD6990M.
Do you know where these graphics are officially sold?
Can I buy this card somewhere?
Thanks.

 

He doesn't have a 6990M. He has a 6970M engineering sample, which happened to have not been cut down from 1120 shaders to 960.

 

Try MXMUpgrade for the 6970m, dont think you can get the 6990m from anywhere. He got his by chance.(i think)

 

Ok, thanks.
And do you know when you might be officially announced 6990M?
At present I am forced to buy the 6970M, but it scares me that he is supposedly slower than GTX570M: (

 

Dell part nr. for AMD Blackcomb XTX DN0PD ( Source)

Call Dell and see whether you're lucky.

 

I'm not sure where you got that. The 570M has the clocks of the 485M (a card equal to the 6970M), but with 12.5% less shaders.

It will, at best, come close to matching the 6970M in some games.

That said, you might as well wait it out for the 6990M.

 

Notebookcheck? lol, they rank 570M ahead of 6970M, 570M doesn't only come with less shaders, but also less bus bandwidth, it's 192bit ONLY compared to other high end 256bit cards. I would be honestly surprised if it matches the performance of 6970M.

 

A tech document which was released when the embargo ended, shows the 570M @ 256-bit.



I'm not yet sure who has it right.

 

I would trust Nvidia's words on this, it says it's 192 bit: GeForce.com - Get the Most Out of Your GPU

 

Think the best answer you're going to get is "soon"

 

i'd say very soon, have heard rumors NDA is over on the 12th for 6990m

 

what's the basis for the speculation that the 6990m will outperform the 580m?

 

What's the basis for the speculation that it won't ?

Whatever, I'd say one might as well wait for 28nm if one's going to wait for the 6990M.

 

K here goes my first post on this forum.

But i was about to order my Alienware M17x R3 laptop the other day with the HD Radeon 6970M but it wasn't available anymore on the website itself.
So i had a chat with one of the sales persons of dell and they told me it wasn't available anymore.

So i asked him what are the different options.
And he recommended me the HD Radeon 6990M so it must be out there but why is there almost no info about this card available on the internet?

I even have a ( Offerte ) The bill where it say HD Radeon 6990M.

Greetings Rowan.

P.s None of you know if its better than the 6970M i quess?

 

Word has it, that the 6990M will be formally announced around the 12th of July.

It's safe to bet on the new card being 15 to 20 percent faster than the 6970M, depending on its clock speeds.

 

I'd say at least Kevin on that, if clocks are increased as well, could be bigger jump from the 6970.

 

Well it has been launched now - AMD announces the Radeon HD 6990M, has some pointed words for NVIDIA -- Engadget
and holy @$#% -

 

Judging from the comparison, looks like it will be 10-15% faster than a 6970M? Less than I expected.

I haven't had my 6970M for a month and now it's already topped by 6990M, such is technology, I guess, the good feeling of making a purchase never last long, oh, well.......

 

Amazing, now Nvidia needs to launch its GTX 590m

 

did you see the foot notes? take it with a grain of salt since it's not compared to a true GTX 580m, just a desktop running on a Phenom with GTX 560ti 1GB underclocked to 580m levels.

 

The anandtech entry claims up to 17% increase on the 6970m making it much more competitive and possibly cheaper than the 580m. However no card is yet available for comparison testing.

For those who bought the 580m (like myself), not that much to angst over since both cards will remain top of their respective trees for a few months to come.

 

Certainly, there isn't need to worry since both will be quite close. It is nice you opted for the best card, it will last powerful for quite some time.

 

Now is it worth it to grab over the 6970? Alienware has them both atm, the 6990 for $100 more...

Also is it safe to assume most sellers having it in their configs by the end of the week?

 

Except with the M18x a pair of 580ms costs $1200 and a pair of 6990Ms cost $500.

 

AnandTech actually called it a 23% gain over the 6970m ...

 

Intriguing.
I was actually planning on getting a SB quad core with 16GB RAM and an AMD high end gpu.
Kobalt computers up until a couple of weeks ago had 6970M in their 15" offers, however they removed it due to what they claimed was 'a high failure rate'.

I'm worries slightly over the failure rate that Kobalt computers mentioned.
Then again, we still hadn't seen the 6990M in action, so we don't know what's going to happen.
But if the estimates were correct in the sense that it will be priced the same as 6970M was, then we will be getting 15% to 25% speed increase (remains to be seen) for no extra cost (unless the manufacturers decide to get obscenely greedy).

Though one thing I noticed in earlier Kobalt offers before the 6970M was removed, is that it could have been gotten for £45 extra cost (the original config comes with 560M 192bit version - GDDR5 if I'm not mistaken).
Followed up by 480M (which was about £250 extra) and 580M (roughly £350 extra).

Can someone actually explain this kind 'chasm' between the price tags?
Especially when we take into account the premise that Nvidia's gpu's were slower or marginally 'better'?

 

^^its just the nvidia pricing schemes.

eventually the price of the gtx 560m, might drop, but since its new tech its going to be at a premium.

The 6970m, I dont believe that there were such a high failure rates, we have 2 major OEMs using that card (dell and apple), thus its hard to believe that they would continue to support that, for one I believe that clevo discountinued it due to the 6990m launch, which is going to be distributed by clevo and dell, apple we dont know as of yet.

the 6990m has a premium over the 6970m, at least on dell, or they are just getting some more cash over the novelty, and trying to flush the 6970m sotcks, or they are going to keep the 2 lines and just go for the higher price tag for the 6990m, basically the 1st option is that they have made some gains on cost by ordering only 1 card, thus supporting it also, and the 2nd option means that they have made a good deal with AMD, to keep both cards, and lower the cost, the word is always cost

 

Apple uses the 6750, there is no way a MBP can handle a 100w GPU

the 6970 was Clevo and its rebrands, Dell and HP

 

the imac uses the 6970m, and incredibly enough in a mxm slot

 

true I never think of the iMac, just MBP and Mac Pro but this isnt Desktop Review either

 

indeed it isnt, its just that the imac uses a laptop gpu, and because people have discussed to the hearts content (or not) that the 6970m was a bad card (which for me its far from it) that I include the only high end laptop gpu from apple, although its in an all in one format

 

O I understand fully, an I have never peronally heard of any issues with the 6970, im actually not suprised it went short supply with the 90 coming out so quick and so close in price

 

the rumor was established based on a post from kobalt, that due to high failure they were discontinuing the card, nothing else has been said, however when clevo stopped supporting it, the rumor gained enough proportion to give life to several threads about it

 

Truth be told, Kobalt may have scapegoated the 6970M, as a way to explain why their shipping is so delayed.

 

Kobalt was the only reseller that said anything about the failure rate of the 6970m, none of the other resellers have mentioned anything of that sort. I would think that if the failure rate is so high, we'd be hearing it from every reseller out there.

 

Only the company knows, however it's ironic if the latter is true since it would have paradoxically delayed my order unnecessarily.

Pricing wise, if past pricing information is any good indicator then it may well be GBP50+ difference between selecting the 580m and the 6990m, that's going to be quite the factor in decision making especially since the 6990m isn't just an overclock.