Elder Scrolls Online!

The Elder Scrolls Online is Real - PC News at IGN

ETA 2013. Looks like Blizzard's WoW is about to get its kicked if this is a hit. But damn jesus that looks promising.

 

They said the same thing when TOR came out aaaaaaand blah

But yeah - I'm not looking forward to this at all, I really wish dev's would quit taking good RPGs and turning them in to MMO's in a feeble attempt to get a piece of the Blizzard pie.

 

lmao which is why i dont play mmo's.

 

I used to play WoW for like...6 years? Too long, too long for any game. Which is why I quit, I refuse to play a game anymore where I have to allocate certain nights and time in order to "progress".

 

Haha yeah. They said that about TOR, Warhammer, Aion, and a few others where it looked like it had promise to overtake WoW, but the final product flopped hard.

 

I remember when WoW came out one of my friends was so excited about WoW and wanted me and another friend to play all the way.

I am glad to this day that I never immersed myself in any Mmo (except Ultima Online, which was truly great in it's prime days) as it would have certainly taken more time from me than I am wiling to spare.

My other friend (my best friend really) refused to play it too

 

hmmmmmmmmmmm

I did like dark age of camelot ...

This could be interesting !

 

No, PLEASE don`t let this end up like Final fantasy did. Got greedy so they released half good games included MMOs

 

Anyone here play Dark Ages of Camelot??! I loved that game. Maybe this will be similar for pvp.

 

I read on another forum that, given the track record of buggy Elder Scrolls games, we can expect universe endings game play bugs when assemble a massive raid party of grossly overpowered characters...or something like that. Probably true .

 

Honestly, I am really unimpressed with this. The very foundation of what makes an Elder Scrolls game cannot be translated into MMO form, so why bother? By the sounds of things, they are just tweaking the mainstream formula a bit and throwing in some lore. Not everything needs to try and offer itself to massively multi player game play, it just doesn't work sometimes.

Now, simple 1-4 person multi player properly implemented in something like Skyrim would be exciting. This, not at all.

Thankfully this is a different studio, and not Bethesda Game Studios. I'd much prefer they focus on making innovative games, and not taking steps backwards.

 

I wonder how it would fit given the amount of lore already present in the Elder Scrolls universe.

 

The Elder Scrolls Online - Announcement Trailer - YouTube

Very simple announcement trailer.

 

Totally different developers.

These guys worked on Dark Age of Camelot, City of Heroes, Star Trek Online, Tabula Rasa. Never played any of those myself, but if you are familiar with those games it should give a better idea of whether it will be buggy or not and how the combat will be balanced etc.

Also they are using the Hero Engine which is the same as TOR.

 

The concept/ingame arts don't live up to the expectations of what a TES game should look like.

 

The mmo that ever compete with WOW is MS

 

Tabula Rasa was an epic fail because it was a 100% carebear game.

Where can I watch these Special MMO Olympic games you speak of?

 

First screens up:
http://www.gameinformer.com/games/t...etails-surrounding-elders-scrolls-online.aspx
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that looks...

horrible

 

Don't get me wrong, it's an interesting idea. But having a few thousand Dragonborn floating around is going to result in a whole lot of NPCs being launched into space when the Fus Ro Dah choir comes to town .

 

Darn. I hate MMOs. Me want Fallout!

 

Probably some kind of announcement for FO4 coming at the VGA awards in December.

 

umm Guild Wars 1 has 5x better graphics and that was in 2004.

 

This looks totally uninspired. They are using the same engine as SWTOR, they are trying to do a fully voiced story based MMO, and if the SWTOR devs are telling the truth the engine literally CANNOT do things like cross server LFG.

I am not very hopeful for this game, and I think it is inexcusable after a game like Tera to claim you can't do real time MMO combat, or you can't do a good LFG tool, or whatever. License a better engine, it can be done.

 

I think TES games are boring and ugly. I'd probably feel the same about an MMORPG.

I am really looking forward to GW2, though.

TOR I never tried simply because I'm not a fan of the SW universe and prefer fantasy over science fiction.

 

I don't think it's fair to judge the graphical quality on screens of the game a year or more before release. They could create an entire new set of textures by then.

 

What is cross server LFG?

 

I think it is less about the graphic and more about they using the same old engine(if that is the case).

 

Cross server looking for group, so like in WoW, Tera, other modern MMOs you just select the dungeon you want and it automatically matches you with a group that can include players from all the other servers to insure the wait time is low. You are able to do other stuff while getting matched, and you get teleported to the dungeon when the group is ready.

SWTOR had no LFG tool at all, and it probably killed the game, it quickly became spending hours sitting in the capital spamming LFG to get a group. Supposedly they don't have LFG because the engine cannot do it (restrictions with the client server architecture used). Bethesda is apparently licensing the exact same MMO engine as SWTOR.

 

Dark Age of Camelot was Developed by Mythic Entertainment and Published by Vivendi Universal...

I.E the team doing this has absolutely nothing to do with the titles you mentioned.

This game will be a mess, everyone is trying an mmo after blizzard completely blew the market wide open, the problem is, they cant do it as good as blizzard. Frankly nobody can, there isnt a single studio out there that puts out games as polished as blizzard, mmo or not

 

Can't you just go to the area you want to explore and click on people passing by?

Forgive me, I have no experience with MMO's, but I would have thought there would be lots of other players walking around that you can talk to.

 

This works when the population is high and really concentrated in a few areas. Thus, SWTOR worked AT FIRST, the problem is the population quickly gets spread out over the entire game world. Then you might only have 50 or fewer people in your area. If you ask those people to come to the dungeon and they don't you are out of luck, you just sit and wait for people to log on, or do something else (and there are often parts of the game where basically every quest is for a dungeon, so there isn't anything else to do but grind).

You also need a specific set of heroes, so you need a tank, a healer, 3 dps. Maybe you get a healer and 3 dps but there simply is not a tank at the right level who wants to go, you just wasted 10 minutes getting a group that will fall apart as you wait for a tank.

The LFG tool solves all of this, can't find anyone to go? Hit two buttons and in a few minutes you get a full group assembled from players from all servers. Have a partial group? You can still use the tool and it will find the missing roles, so if I have 4 people but we need a tank I can let the tool find me a tank, probably from another server, and we are set to go. Quite honestly the LFG tool, at least for me, is central to my enjoyment of an MMO game. I don't want to waste time trying to put groups together, I want to kill giant monsters and get awesome loot, the LFG tool helps me do that. The lack of a LFG tool is why I never even went beyond month 1 in SWTOR.

 

From reading what TESO promises in its MMO functionality, it is going the GW2 route, where it's trying to dissolve the holy trinity I think.

 

typically most game have a guild system is to solve that LFG problem. And playing with ppl you know for a while is much better experience that playing with stranger per say.
sometimes you dont want to play with unknown player X cuz X is a @#$
and sometimes guild system is not enough to handle the lack of players on.

 

There are lots of possible ways to combat it, but at least during my play I still get the problems an awful lot. Spamming for a group, unable to get one, bored wasting time. It was acceptable 8ish years ago, when WoW first released. But now, after seeing how nice a LFG tool is, I just can't take it anymore.

I ask my guild if they wanna run, I ask the general channel if anyone wants to run, then I queue up. Within 10 minutes or so I have a group one way or another, which is much better than just sitting around spamming and praying for the right people to show up.

 

Anyone know if the world will be all of Tamriel, or only those that have been shown to us (Skyrim, Cyrodil, Morrowind, etc)? I wish the developers just put little, but polished content in the beginning and expand the world rather than have a large, glitchy world that everyone will hate. Even if they only recreate the world of Morrowind, I will play the game for a very long time IF the lore, art style and game mechanics are polished. "Elder Scrolls MMO" has been talked of for such a long time, that I really wish this doesn't let us down.

 

It will eventually be all of the provinces, but some areas are not going to be finished in time for the launch.

 

The Elder Scrolls Online

The Elder Scrolls Online - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

To be released in 2013? And just announced it? Or am I just really late to this news?

Very little info about. So far looks uninteresting, considering GW2 doesn't have a monthly fee.

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It's legit and has been in development or some time.

 

Think its based on the same engine as Star Wars: The Old Republic, but still not interested.
Add some limited coop to the game, not make it a MMO.

MMO does not equal money in the bank. >_>

 

thats a title i am definitely looking forward to

 

TOR with a TES skin. Yawn.

 

The were originally going with the Hero engine, but they ended up just using it to prototype the look and feel of the game then going with another engine.

 

I've tried a couple of MMOs but I found them to be a bit boring. When I played WoW and TOR, the game world seemed to be dead. There are all these monsters that just stand around waiting for you, and the world seemed fake compared to single player RPGs like Skyrim.

The only one I liked so far was The Secret World, which actually had some good quests with puzzles that were really hard to solve.

I'm willing to give ESO a shot because it's Elder Scrolls, but I don't think I would ever pay a monthly subscription for any game, and if it turns out to be free to play, I'm guessing they would have to make the game more about trying to find the best loot? That would be nothing like the history of the TES games, which are more about just exploring the world and doing your own thing.

Or are there free to play games that are not about finding loot? The only F2P games I've ever tried so far are TF2 and Tribes Ascend.

 

Few snippets I could read and watch, they keep emphasizing the social integration. That makes me shudder. Just seems like it's a glorified Facebook game so far.

Also Zenimax takes the time to compare their new MMO to the current. But they don't address these facts:

STOR was a failure. They are releasing F2P 1-50 in the fall to try and get more users.

WoW subscription has fallen to record lows. And in Asia they pay by the hour, so the actual numbers are probably only 4 million subscribers. Maybe less.

Rift released F2P very soon after release and has not been a success yet.

Tera Online launched almost unnoticed.

GW2 has no monthly fees.

Zenimax claims ES Online will differentiate because you can just wander around and do whatever you want. You can already do that in GW2. Claims NPC will run to you with quests etc. Happens in GW2. It will have world PvP, GW2 already has that. I just don't see what is appealing about their game yet, as since it's Zenimax, it will likely be monthly fee. We just saw a DLC being sold for $19.99 from them and the price of their games at launch been 59.99 and really buggy. GW2 is just unmatched for me, since I'll be able to just buy it and play for a bit and if I stop, forget, no matter, no monthly fees.

If Zenimax can't release a SP game without it being almost unplayable or being a disappointment due to bugs and poblems... Imagine the launch of an MMO from them. OMG, nightmare, brrr, *shudder*

 

That's how I feel. I've tried a bunch but they all got boring fast and tend to be tedious . I'll probably give this one a shot but I can't see myself paying a monthly fee.

 

Keep single player games single IMO. This is a bad idea and I hope it dies a quick death so Bethesda learns a lesson

 

WoW used to be a lot more fun when there were lots of other players in the zones to fight/group up with. Now everyone sits in the capital cities waiting for their queues to pop and the world seems dead. Or if they need to go out into the world they just hop on their flying mounts and avoid any interaction. GG Blizzard.

And this Panda expansion isn't exactly stoking my interest to re-sub.

 

That's an interesting point. Didn't realize there was also a "buy to play" model for some MMOs until you mentioned this. So essentially, the model for GW2 is you buy the base game and then they keep releasing expansions each year? Seems like that kind of approach would be perfect for an Elder Scrolls MMO. The world of Tamriel is so huge, they could keep releasing expansions for years to make all the provinces explorable, and then there are other continents in the world beside Tamriel.

If it's free to play, I think unfortunately they would have to make the game about collecting loot, in order to convince the "whales" to spend money in a virtual shop, which is incredibly boring for most of us who like the single player TES games. When I play these games, I don't care about powerful loot, in fact, I enjoy them most when I'm just starting out and very underpowered. I just like to explore the world and interact with the NPCs, etc.

On the other hand, if it's a subscription model, personally, I'd try it, but I really don't like the idea of paying a fee every month for a game. Maybe if it was incredibly cheap, like below $5 per month.

But I'd be happy to pay $60 for the game and another $60 or so every year for an expansion. Hell, I'll probably spend a few hundred dollars just on Skyrim and all the DLC (bought the collector's edition).

 

New video with lots of gameplay footage including combat!

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What do you think? Never played too many MMOs myself but I have played the Elder Scrolls single player games. Hopefully this will turn out to be fun (and not too expensive). I just don't think I can bring myself to pay a monthly fee for any game.