Expected release of next gen of Nvidia GPUs

Hi, rumours seem to generally be pointing to an announcement of the 11/20xx series graphic cards imminently with shipping starting in July. Do you all think this is true or not? I'm thinking of getting one of the new thin and light laptops like the MSI GS65 or Aero 15 but would much rather get a 1160 or 1170 inside because I feel the 144hz screen is wasted with a 1060 driving it since very few games can hit the high frame rates.

 

The 11xx series is a refreshed pascal version.Honestly it's likely to be around the same as the "jump" from 600 to 700 series.

 

it will jump at least 50 percent, and have less power requirements(run cooler) so the big jump this gen will be ultra books capable of gaming. I say 50 because v100 is proved to be a 30 percent jump and thats pretty typical. and don't forget 8th gen cpus are just a refresh, kabylake refresh but the performance jump is significant

 

I mean it all rumors at this point but based on everything I’ve read it looks to be a decent bump, but I seriously doubt it’ll be 50% as that is a massive bump. I also don’t recall readings anything about lower power requirements / temps, considering the temps on the coffee lakes, it’s probably similar temps.
Everything is also regarding desktop releases so I'd expect manufacturers to stick with the newer 10 series a little while longer until they liquidate their stock.... And with the lack of any competition on the mobile front I don't see them rushing it out until q4 or even 2019. I could also be dead wrong haha

I think it’s the perfect time to nab a 1060-1080 on the cheap! Waiting it out is also a viable option...

 

What I am curious about, were TSMC's last ditch attempts to keep Nvidia enough, or will more business move to Samsung? The 1050ti and below are already fabbed in Korea (the 3rd ever foundry Nvidia has contracted with).

 

50% jump in performance? start in july? lol what are you guys smoking?

dont expect anything before end of this year, november at the EARLIEST. also, the 20% average jump weve seen to far gen to gen should also be applicable here.

dont get your hopes up too high guys, uve been warned

 

I wish gpu's life cycle the same as console so it means by 2020

 

The lack of competition literally means Nvidia can do whatever they hell they want at this point haha.

 

While I know AMD needed to do something, I think the APUs were a bit of a mistake. Not in concept, but in how they were laid out. Intel did it right. The GPU has its own HBM stack, rather than fighting the CPU for its small 64bit memory bus. We know the 64bit bus is limiting, since even Intel IGPs can note a consistent (though small) performance decrease from running on single channel RAM vs dual channel. An APU with more compute power than a MX150 should not be bested by a MX150, but even a downclocked MX150 is still faster than most (all?) of the APU notebooks in NBC tests (albeit with a higher power draw under load. Optimus still has the advantage outside of gaming on battery power). AMD had a head start with HBM, but both of their competitors have really beaten them at HBM implementations, IMO.

TL;DR, the damn APUs should have used HBM like the Intel Kaby Lake-G did. With that, I feel like AMD could have really smashed Intel and Nvidia out of the ultrabook class. As it stands, the APU is competition for Intel's practically nonexistent Iris Pro (for a practically nonexistent market).

 

Seems SK Hynix will be shipping GDDR6 memories for Nvidia according to their latest contract.

 

https://www.pcgamer.com/get-an-asus-geforce-gtx-1080-ti-graphics-card-for-dollar568/#comment-jump

gpu prices dropping in general and this is a shockingly low price. maybe retailers know something already

 

LIVE!
Maybe this time!??

 

Naah...
Just Deep learning, DGX and stuff.

At least some excited about it.

 

Well Xavier is finally available. 12nm FFN instead of 16nm FFT. Looks like after the 40nm fiasco, Nvidia is getting closer to the fab to get what they want.

 

Responding to questions from press at a Q&A session in Taipei, Nvidia’s CEO said the highly anticipated GPUs won’t launch for “a long time from now.”

 

If Nvidia is making Pascal on 7nm TSMC process (same as refreshed Vega and Navi from AMD), then the process change would allow for 35-40% increase in performance (according to its technical specs) vs 16nm - and if Nvidia clocks Pascal refresh further, then 50% might be doable... but 35-40% might be more realistic as we should likely stay within the expectations of what the process allows.

AMD on the other hand should be able to achieve parity with refreshed Pascal in that case when it comes to clocks and efficiency, since 14nmLPP was not good for yields or high clocks and refreshed Vega will be made on 7nm TSMC too (though, consumer version is likely expected to be Navi, whereas Vega on 7nm is more of a AI GPU replacement for FE). I still expect AMD to draw a bit more power due to having 40% higher CU's than Nvidia, but undervolting could take care of that.

 

sure, sounds all fine and dandy... but WHEN is that gonna happen? plus, a lot of "ifs" here... and nothing is stopping Nvidia from releasing a Pascal refresh based on tweaked 14nm / 12nm with a bit higher clocks and a few more CUDA cores... should be enough for that extra 20% and keeping the lead over AMD

 

Vega refresh (the AI version) is already undergoing sampling (as they have a functional silicon in the lab)... and Navi I think is expected sometime next year.
If Nvidia releases a refresh on 12nm in the interim and achieves 20% better performance, that's fine, but that doesn't mean they would get another 35-40% increase by refreshing Pascal again on 7nm (by which time, consumer AMD GPU's on 7nm will be released and achieve parity with Nvidia's GPU on 7nm... unless Nvidia releases a completely new architecture on 7nm, and that hadn't materialized as of yet - at least, not to my knowledge).

Also, there are no indications that Nvidia is planning a refresh of Pascal on 12nm.
7nm refresh of Pascal seems inevitable... but I expect its release will be pretty much be the same like AMD's Navi will due to both using TSMC fabs.

In the meantime, AMD is only planning on releasing Polaris refresh this year... and it will likely be on 12nm... but that process is still limited to low clocks and mobile parts... though it does allow for lower voltages and slightly higher clocks (mere 10% performance increase) - or simply better efficiency/power draw with no performance improvements.

 

30\July
Probably "D-DATE"!
Less than 2 months.

 

But will that be desktop and notebook or just desktop? Or are they all the same now?

 

We won't see any desirable GPUs for mobile (1170/1180) until into 2019

 

yep, as far as ive seen rumors point towards desktop cards this summer and mobile end of year or beginning of next.

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Yeah we're looking at Q4 of '18 or Q1 of '19. I'm betting on the latter.

 

Didn't Lenovo leak info about their next laptops with 11xx series?
Sorry I can't find a source that's isn't aids in mobile, popups everywhere

 

NotebookCheck reported on it. Looks like November/December.

 

It is common knowledge that NGreedia was a bit greedy recently (or more greedy than usual? ) and produced too much Pascal GPU units which they wanted to sell to miners. However their plan flopped at the last minute and and miners don't really care about buying GPU units now.
Because of this NGreedia has warehouses with surplus amount of Pascal GPU units.

However according to a new rumor Ngreedia has figured out how to get rid of these stocks with decreasing the losses.
According to the new rumors NVidia -despite having working Turing units in house- has postponed the release of the new architecture.
Instead the GTX 11 series will be a Pascal refresh. (maybe with GDDR6 memory)

Or maybe even just a rebrand, something similar like this:
1180 = 1080ti
1170 = 1080
1160= 1170
etc
We all know that Ngreedia knows no shame, just look at GTX 680 + GTX 770 fiasco or for us mobile gamer GTX 780M+880M.
Same card with boosted clocks and new name.

But hopefully this rumor just popped out from a troll's mind and NVidia will not try to clear out their stock this way.

 

What I would like to know actually if the next generation GPU for laptops will be like the current ones which are almost identical with desktop GPUs or will there be again an ''M'' addition which will be much slower than usual desktop cards.

If so, I simply don't want to wait in vain to get a new laptop.

 

Lol.. What if.

Volta will be a nice jump

 

My guess is the NV surplus is mostly high end parts to feed miners, so not mobile 1060 or 1050 level parts.

So we will get new mobile parts, and I don't think the 1060 vs 980m jump is unreasonable. So the 1150 and 1160 should be in the 1060 and 1070 range, which will be amazing for XPS 15 9580 buyers.

I could see NV doing this on the desktop side (some with memory upgrades):

1070 = 1150ti
1070ti = 1160
1080ti = 1170
new chip (paper launch) = 1180
new chip = titan

I'm surprised they didn't already do this for back to school.

 

I have to agree with lewdvig

 

Wait what? There will be a 1150? I read somewhere that 1160 will the lowest model.

 

Yeah, nothing to worry about, I'm sure Nvidia will repentantly *eat* $M's of "dead" Pascal inventory, and distribute the new Next-Generation Wunderkind GPU Candy at deep discounts - a further loss to the bottom line - to make up for Nvidia's Evil Ways...

Although, now might be a good time to be in the " High Volume Surface Mount De-soldering and Rework Station" business...

 

I recently sent a email to a local laptop retailer in New Zealand asking when to expect laptops with next gen GPUs, and I got the following email in reply:

Hi,
For laptops, with next generation GPU, you are looking at mid next year.

First release will be around April next year, starting with GTX1180 only, then slowly followed by GTX1170 etc....from higher to lower.

For next gen GTX1060/1050, likely we won't see any before mid of next year.

Regards.

Keep in mind that tech related stuff usually take slightly longer to get to NZ than other countries. Here's their contact info for anyone interested: https://www.justlaptops.co.nz/contact/

 

Asus Hungary has started teasing the arrival of the new VGA cards.



https://m.facebook.com/asusroghu/ph...2409213303/1983826318303568/?type=3&source=57

"Egyébként új VGA-k közelednek felénk..."
Translated from Hungarian to English:

"By the way, new VGA cards are nearing is"

This can mean 3 thing:
1) a New amd card (is there even any planned around this Time?)
2) a New Pascal VGA revision (I doubt Asus would release a New Pascal VGA variant)
3) Turing VGA

A user asked in the comments:
"Is it the gtx 1180?"
The answer from Asus was:
"We dont know anything... "

Another question:
"Which cards are arriving first?"
Answer:
"Secret "

 

Sold my Strix GTX 1080 Ti yesterday for $650 locally. Not bad considering I used the card for 1.4 months or so and I only paid around $750~. The GTX 1180 will easily best my Ti and I figure I can pick an OEM card up for around what I sold my TI card for. Maybe max $100 out of pocket.

 

I thought the rumor was the 1180 was going for over $1k?

Nvidia GTX 1180 Listed For $1500 With 16 GB GDDR6 VRAM, 3854 CUDA Cores And Is Based On Nvidia Turing Architecture
https://segmentnext.com/2018/07/02/nvidia-gtx-1180-listing-turing-gddr6/

This article guesstimates using historical precedent for less, but with Nvidia's huge inventory of unsold Pascal cards, I don't see how this can be true...without huge Nvidia loses...

Nvidia GeForce GTX 1180 release date, news and rumors
By Bill Thomas 2018-07-30T20:25:18
https://www.techradar.com/news/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1180

"...
Nvidia GeForce GTX 1180 price
This is where things might get a little tricky, and it’s also where we’ve seen little speculation. With the current segment of 10-series GPUs, Nvidia changed the way they charged for its reference cards by renaming them “Founders Edition”, putting an advanced blower-style cooler and vapor chamber cooling system in them and charging $100 more for it.

And, according to recent speculation, it looks like Team Green is going to repeat this approach. Recent leaks from board manufacturers suggests that Nvidia will launch its 180W card at $699, its 150W card at $599 and a 120W card at $499. This would put the supposed GTX 1180 at a $699 price tag.

For reference, the Nvidia GeForce GTX 1080 Ti and Nvdia GTX 1080 came with a starting prices at $699 (£679, AU$1099) and $599 (£600, AU$925), respectively.

However, we’re sure we’ll find out exactly what Nvidia will be charging for its new GPU in the very near future either way."

 

Cannot wait to see the Bitcoin Bench 2019 scores.

 

Asus Hungary made another comment on their Facebook page..
They wrote that they Will show off their New VGA cards on Gamescom.
They actually wrote that they Will not just show the gtx 1180 but other new cards As well.

The wait is soon over my friends.

 

Unless you want a laptop card, of course.....

 

They should be out by either CES 2019 or Computex 2019. I don't think you'll see them at IFA 2018 though.

 

I ensure you, that just in general usage when you try 120/144GHz, you'll feel the difference and won't get back anymore! I'm silent about gaming or working where eye tension on smaller parts and details plays GREAT role