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    FFXIV going live tomarrow 30th

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by jeffreybaks, Sep 29, 2010.

  1. jeffreybaks

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    Is everyone pumped to start playing ffxiv? In case any one does not know FFXIV is slated to go live september 30th and is an mmorpg(massive multiplayer online role playing game). I Wish I was but sadly I have not been able to get a new laptop in time. Has any one bought new equipment for this game specifically? Some of these new launches are so exciting. Iv been to the last few ones with aion and warhammer. Maybee some one can stream on xfire live for the launch for us that havent been able to upgrade yet.

    In case any one dosnt know there is a few but one good ffxiv IRC channel, server: irc.gamesurge.net (6667) channel: ffxiv and ff14 . I realize theres another FF thread below but I had a few specific questions.
     
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    is it an mmo or something?
     
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    yea, its the 14th installment in the final fantasy franchise. There was ffxi which was also an mmorpg so this is final fantasys second mmorpg.
     
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    Just buy a PS3 is cheaper. FF XIV was made for PS3 and PC after thought.

    This is what they recommend you use on your PC to play FF XIV. So seriously, just forget the PC and buy the PS3, if you want to play FF XIV that is.
    - Generally for MMORPG on PC, you want it to run on as many PCs as you can. That's why WoW is scalable and runs just about on anything, same for Warhammer, or Aion or the upcoming GW2 and Tera Online (UE3).
    - But FF XIV is like the opposite, I've never seen a game that has as many issues as FF XIV in getting to run, on even high end machines. I suppose that's what you get for an MMORPG console port.

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    FF was totally off my radar, what with the hitters like Civ5, SC2 and all. Is it as addicting as WoW?
     
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    No. Everyone I've talked to who tried it, quit within a day. The opposite of addictive. A Japanese review of FF XIV said, one of the best looking MMORPG, but it's as exciting as solitaire.

    Just Youtube FF XIV gameplay. Because it's so badly made, a lot of the videos you'll notice were made using console controllers. See for yourself and you can see why.
     
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    im playing the game and i have to disagree with you mate, this is the first MMO ive played and am really enjoying it so far, it has a learning curve that's for sure, and it has so many aspects that some might find it less exciting because its not all fights but so far im having a blast with it, community are enjoyable and seem to be a little more mature than some ive looked into......ill hold of on a review and score and put more hours into it first.....
     
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    FFXIV is a gorgeous game and there are going to be many many millions that play it over its life time. FFXI has done better then 99% of mmos out there already and FFXIV will follow its tradition. Im in no way a Final fantasy fanboy or fangirl if I was a woman :\ ... ..., ..., but there games do well and Square Enix is a righteous company who can pump out a class a game with the best of them.
     
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    You have m17xr2 goodness for ffxiv, I wants one! I can only imagine what playing ffxiv on the m17xr2 would be like, im sure the best! Only thing Id like with my ffxiv in an m17x would be a g3 600 gigabyte intel x25 ssd or an intel extream ssd.
     
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    well then you've got nothing to compare it to. any MMO can be exciting for a few days, even a week... but how many can keep you subscribing for years? and on top of that, every time you quit... you find yourself coming back for one reason or another...

    the graphics look fantastic, however there seems to be something weird with the terrain. i mean, the character models don't look right in the world.

    combat almost looks turn based, and i won't even mention mining. seriously do you really want to play that minigame every time you mine? depends how often it's needed, but just like any other MMO, i'm guessing a lot!

    time will tell if it succeeds or topples in failure, the pc version needs some love thats for sure, its optimization seems poorer than AoC when it came out.
     
  11. daranik

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    Its already live.... for special edition users :). as regards to everyone elses comments on here, if you played FFXI this is a very slow starting game. Its less about grinding and more about everything else you do. Im lvl 15 and still wearing the stuff I came off the boat. Theres alot more focus on crafting this time around, items break, and its alot more of the "stuff your not doing while questing".

    Also because this is the launch, not much information about the game is floating around, were to find an auction house, how the ingame minigames work, that sorta thing. So players are feeling deserted. I have to say its been difficult to really get into the game, im hoping level 20 will start bringing me to new places and start actually questing. I have a feeling squenix meant for the first 20 levels to give you a good grounding in two more war classes, and atleast 1 or 2 side classes, ei mining that sorta thing. So that later on when your out doing huge quests and instances and someone need armor repaired in the field will have a buddy whos like " hey I can repair it here let me help" . The next few weeks hopefully will get more interesting.

    OH and the interface is a bit slow, and this game works well with the G35 logitech game pad, it works great , no need for controller.

    I also find the community right now on selbina atleast is very serious and to themselves, theres already a few big linkshells but most people stick to doing there own thing. This game is REDICULOUSLY complex and like the other poster says has a huge learning cuve, but I think by end game this will pay off when doing higher level things feels complex and fun to do, not just low level instancing and repeat or grind and repeat, you do alot more in this game, almost like a second life. My linkpearl is looking for members so if you decide on SELBINA server , send me a /tell online name is Grimlock Warmonger.
     
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    That could be it right there. I wonder how much they really care about the PC audience. Maybe they're trying to make MMOs more mainstream on the console with FF like MS/Bungie did with Halo and console FPS games?
     
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    I agree with daranik on most of the things stated, but the game is so horribly ported to PC that it just gives an even worse impression than it would if it was on a PS3. The slow interface makes you feel like the game is laggy, even though you are not experiencing any latency issues....argh!

    I like the high learning curve and focus on a lot of "other things" than just grinding for levels. The fact that you can change your classes on the go is great. I'm sure there will be many changes that will occur as the time rolls on.

    Even with all the downsides on initial launch, I think the game has great potential to go either way....and only time will tell. I am still enjoying my free trial and I hope it gets to be more fun when additional new faces join the community tomorrow.
     
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    lol wow mate chill, i can only give my experience with the game, i wasn't saying everyone has to go out and buy it, just that i personally disagree with the above post and can say over the past week or so that ive enjoyed it a lot, no game is perfect, but for me i find reasons to come back in to just check one more thing before i head to work or something, its fun.......i like it......doesn't mean you have too

    @ jeffreybaks it isnt running great on the M17x at the moment, something about crossfirex issues but it still runs well and smooth i just had to turn off DOF to bump the fps up to suitable standards.
     
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    Well I hope you get it sorted out. Have you read anything about the i7 620/40m's?
     
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    IMO it's a paid beta to prepare for the release (ps3 version). There's just way too much stuff missing or poorly implemented.
     
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    ooxxoo is right, the game is very un polished and its far from even beta at this point. They should have delayed it for like 3 more months tbh.
     
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    i was really anticipating this game. until i tried playing the beta. getting 5 fps on a core i5 w/ hd 5650 is simply horrendous. this coupled with the combat system being so sluggish completely turned me away. i barely got out of the starting town before i uninstalled the game. i mean come on, how can you expect to draw customers from the mmo giant that is WoW if your game can't be played on most systems? it boggles my mind.
     
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    Wow 5 fps on 5650, thats my all time favorite gpu by far. Im sure you could tweak the hell out of the game to improve performance though. gamebooster,resolution, turning down the settings, fresh install of wins 7, etc...you have asus/acer or msi/lenovo?
     
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    anyone one playing ffxiv with there lappys?
     
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    Yup, my lappy (G73) plays its on mid-high settings smooth , only choppy when lotsa people on screen, my lappys also an i7 with 8gb ddr3 and a 5870m with 1gb ddr5.
     
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    oh man thats so cool! Some choppyness hmm...maybee character details are set for desktops or something. Could you post some screenshots? that would be awesome!
     
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    im also playing on the notebook in my sig, and have everything set on high apart from i have DOF off and also AO off as well, i run it with 4xMSAA, its not perfect but i seem to get mid 20's in heavy populated areas......im looking forward to AMD's next driver release which should help considerably, on a side note, im really enjoying this game, great fun so far, some of the crafts can be tedious but to this point for me its heaps of fun....
     
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    Ill post pics tomorrow morning, im at work and not on my lappy, also if you try and menu bar the game, it crashes so ill take asd much as i can. And when i mean choppy, its server lag, nothing on my system.
    My system is more then capable, but because of the server trying to send to alot of users in one area it drops the frames, lots of mmos do this.

    Ive wanted to mess around with the setting like mtness but havent had time, just been playing, but im pretty sure it will run it on higher setting with no AA, and yeh hopefully some driver optimization would be nice. of course I probably wont be able to do as much as mtsness that dual 5870 is a beast, are you running the game at 1080p mtness?
     
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    screenshots and videos! Mid 20's is managable. Wish I was playing, I guess ill get it soon enough. How was the launch?
     
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    OK, so I have the special so ive been playing for like almost 2 weeks or something now, its awesome. Very slow to start but its really growing on me. Theres finally a few guides on the net and squenix finally explained the crafting mini game. The game is very heavy on the whole crafting scene, the first 20 levels is almost just crafting, good experience and eventually you can create your own stuff , which the game wants you to do.

    im finishing up crafting right now, me and a few friends have split the crafting jobs so I create the weapons, the other 2 create armor. Im at the point that I can create the stuff I need now which works perfect. So next step is some good old questing and grinding, finally I can get on with the game already. The game looks REALLY good though, monster are well detailed, the texture maps are nice and colorful, and the scenary and vistas look amazing so far. Early armor looks very boring but looking at what some of the NPCs wear should be pretty awesome later on down the line.

    There is no auction house in the game yet they are doing a "retainer market" which is like if you played FFXI most players made MULE accounts that sat in busy areas so people can check their bazaars, squenix made it part of the game now, they give you a mule called a retainer and appearently there is a retainer market hangin around somewere. Im not to particularly sure were to find it because squenix drops you into a huge game and lets you figure things out by yourself. Appearently though they do eventually plan on having an auction house again, im not sure if this is just rumor or not.

    I like the new class skill options, in FFXI you can have one main job and a sub job, the sub was half of the main and you could use some of the subs abilities to boost the mains. In the game you can combine any skill from any class onto any other class at one time. So me, im a Marauder, so id take things to boost my damage, even if its a spell from the black mage class or maybe a skill from the gladiator class. This makes the diversity of every player so much more different and unique, making it harder to find one "perfect Combo" Like in the FFXI, there was a clear perfect combo for any job.

    All in all its slowly grown better and not every game from the start is good, its always after youve invested some time, met some people that you go on to do mor einteresting things in the game. :)
     
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    yeah mate im playing it at the native screen resolution of 1920x1200, and i have to agree, i think in the next month or so, once new drivers are released and S-E fix some of the server problems most decent machines will get more stable and higher fps, at the moment its definitely playable and apart from server lag im also having a great time with the game.

    it was slow to start but i also am getting hooked the game play is fun, and although some of the crafting is a little tedious im having a blast with the game.

    @ daranik what is your main class mate, im a gladiator/miner at the moment, only been playing a week or so, so levels aren't to high, general 11/gladiator 10/ miner 9.
     
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    Any pictures or videos?
     
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    ok heres a few, i had to save them as jpg as they where too big to upload.....

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    ill try and upload a few in battle and during different times as well.....but there's a start.
     
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    Is demonicous deathbringer a friend lol? The mountains look so real, almost like im standing right there. I like your character design, rugged.
     
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    >.> I keep reading the game is more about crafting than actually fighting and leveling? How do you like it compared to ffxi?
     
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    I havent played either but Iv read and seen quite a few things with them both. FFXI is still popular today though, will FFXIV be as popular that far down the line as FFXI was, who knows, probubly. I do know there is no jumping in FFXIV which has some people upset but it dosnt bother me. Alot of other good games havent had jumping and they were great like Star Wars Galaxies.
     
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    umm its a important part of the game, but i spend heaps of time fighting and partying up to do group leves and battles, i haven't played ffxi before but some of the friends i play with say that the crafting is better in xiv, i cant compare the two, but im liking this one, crafting and all, crafting gets better as you level up.
     
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    I've been casually playing the game on the system in my sig (via Win7 Bootcamp) since the CE launch. I actually have most most of the graphics options set to high with a few things such as Depth of Field turned off and the game runs pretty smoothly (i.e. playable) at ~1200x800 resolution (I can't recall the exact numbers but it's around there.

    The game is enjoyable and I must say the leve system is much better than I had anticipated. The main quests are very good as well as I get the feeling of a strong story developing even from early on. I've yet to try crafting (I only play, at most, an hour a day), so I won't comment on that.

    But the game has more cons than pros. Even though it has a great story, nice graphics (even on my system which is by no means a gaming notebook), a very well-implemented questing system, and an amazing music score (Nobuo Uematsu is the god of RPG music), the game looses all it's luster when it comes to playability. The menus are slow and the combat is sluggish, to the point where it's frustrating. These two things make a huge difference in your gaming experience. But I'm roughing it out because I know the quality Square Enix is capable of: FFXIII, FFX, FFVII, KHI, KHII, need I go on? All these games had responsive menus (Yeah, the menus really are that bad and since it's the menus and UI that connect you to the game, it's a big deal), and they had amazing combat systems (I don't expect real-time combat from a console MMO, but at least a fast-paced turn system like FFXIII has would be great).

    End rant.
     
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    @Francis I agree. I was in the beta, and its a shame that the game is so visually striking but lacks in the playability department.

    It's immediately recognizable that it was never meant to be for PC, but rather for PS3. I chose not to purchase it in the end. I'm going to wait it out and see if things get better after patches and what not.
     
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    Is anyone experiencing "queue logins" due to heavy server load? I got dc'ed during a levequest and then when I logged back into the game, I was placed under a queue. Turns out my levequest failed. :(
     
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    I'm thinking of getting this (my first time to play an MMO actually, more of a single player kind of guy). I just downloaded the benchmark and I'll test it on my G73 once I get home just to figure out at least what kind of performance I can expect.
     
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    it was my first venture into the world of MMO's and i have to say i am enjoying it greatly, its heaps of fun, especially after you have explored the huge amount the game has to offer, with different crafts etc......your machine should run it well, im hoping that with AMD's new driver release we can gain a bit more as well.....
     
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    Thanks dude. Glad to hear that. :) The game was just released here in Asia 2 days ago.

    From the looks of it, not many people from my country are playing it online. I'm probably gonna drop by the local store this weekend and see if they still have stocks available (this local chain of game shops only carry limited quantities of games they don't perceive as a big hit).
     
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    It's basically a remake of FFXI with a lot of improvements, but a lot of the same flaws.

    Most importantly, the combat is sluggish, the grind is massive, and it controls like they didn't even think about mouse + keyboard users.

    The beta ran great on my desktop though (chugged like hell on my laptop in any busy area). And the catgirls sure are pretty (and the rest of the graphics, I guess).
     
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    I'm trying the benchmark now and I keep getting this error:

    FFXIV Official Benchmark has stopped working.

    Anyone getting the same error and any solutions?
     
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    My char is marauder 12 i think, miner is 12 aswell, my phys level is 16, and my black smith is 8 or 9. Sorry about no vids or pics, been super busy all weekend, ill try and get some tonight. Its similar to FFXI, except .... no auction house. I finally found the market for the game, and its a room filled with npc containers (bazaar mules) and you have to click on them one at a time, check bazaar leave, then click on another...... way too much of a process.

    Theres also no mog house to store items, or grow plants. Which leads me to believe the preset 80 item hold limit on your char is meant to replace your mog. Aswell as every container char you have holds 80 items aswell, I guess you could leave items in storage on them aswell and price em at 999,999 so no one buys it.... unless theres a baller out there already.

    Its starting to grow on my slowly, guides are slowly coming out and making it easier to understand how to play. I just wish that I could find an Auction list or something, making it easier to sift through everyones items. Hunting for particular materials or armor and what not is so nonsensical. I think they are trying to get away from having auction prices like in FFXI, were if someone sets the price of the item to 10X the original value and someone gets suckered into buying it, then everyone raises there price which creates and inflated market that people are stuck paying rediculous prices. The container market kind of kills that because you dont know how much the person next to you is selling the same item for, get lucky and find your item cheap somewere else.
     
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    From what I recall, only certain type of ATI drivers will run the benchmark tool succesfully.
     
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    Guess I'm out of luck then. Was using the stock drivers that came with the G73 and then upgraded to Cats 10.8. The benchmark just refused to run.

    Does that actually mean the full game won't run on my G73? Tsk. Really disappointed if that would be the case. :(
     
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    i doubt it very much mate, you have a near identical cpu as me and your gpu is fine to run the game, not sure why the benchmark isnt working......sorry and good luck.
     
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    I have 10.6 and the game runs fine on my G73 as well as the benchmarks. I'm sure it would run. You might want to try with different version of drivers.
     
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    I have the G73JH-A1, and both the benchmark and full game run. It ran for me on both 10.7 ccc and 10.8, maybe try re-installing drivers. Oh and the score you get is no indicator of how well the game will perform, the G73jh runs it almost on full for me and only lag is server lag not game lag
     
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    wow kinda surprised, that's even worse then star trek online's reviews. I guess I didn't see this one coming, none of the beta testers said anything to me about what the review had to say.
     
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    I have continued to warn about the danger flags for this game for ages mate. And I don't say that because I wanna be "I told you so". It's a loss for any gamer, and the MMO industry, that yet another game has failed to take MMORPG into new territory.

    World of Warcraft is a fantastic computer game that deserves all it's admiration, but the lack of direct competition, is not only hurting the MMO industry, but also WoW itself. Because Blizzard is not being pressured to be the best they can be.
    Blizzard was always fighting Westwoods Command and Conquer series back when they made the early Warcraft RTS games.
    When Starcraft came out, you had it fighting Total Anihilation. When Diablos were around you were fighting games like Icewind Dale and Baldurs Gate.
    I am sure, that direct competition helped everyone be better at what they do, including Blizzard.



    Here is why it was only logical that FFXIV would "fail" or be severely limited - Look at FFXI. FFXI is a nice game for many hardcore gamers, but it had incredible obscure annoyances, that is staggering. The whole philosophy of a service being so frustrating is insane.
    A massive never ending grind, incredible hardcore boss fights, that have been recorded to last over 30 hours(and then wiped...). The bad controls, annoying interface, the unintuitive way of paying, and dealing with characters.

    Lots of respect for doing a player run economy in FFXIV. That's fantastic and wonderful, and deserves praise. But for the rest of the game... I haven't tried it, but it just looks like a big waste of everyone time, for purty graphics.

    On a side note, the reason you see so many people saying this game is the worst game ever(most likely an extreme exaggeration) is that many people are annoyed by Final Fantasy, Final Fantasy fans and more specifically Final Fantasy 7-everything.
    You even have Manga/Anime fans who think that Final Fantasy is the most stupid crap.
    Final Fantasy XI, XII and XIII were all very different games from the pure template of classic Final Fantasy, and that has also pissed off fans.
    Some people are annoyed at the people who really like FFXIV, because they feel they only like it because it's Final Fantasy. Kind of how like people who only like WoW because it's a Blizzard or product or people who say SWTOR will be the greatest thing ever because it's Star Wars.
     
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