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    Fallout New Vegas or Dragon Age Origins?

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by HTWingNut, Dec 24, 2010.

  1. HTWingNut

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    I put a budget on what I can spend on the Steam sale this year. Haven't bought much, but wanted one of these two. I'm leaning towards FO:NV because I really liked FO3, well to a point that I got bored, but it was good for 30+ hours of gameplay.

    DA:O isn't really my type of game, but it got such good reviews and everyone raves about it, I figured it might be a good change of pace.
     
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    You have bought a ton, just not for yourself ;) FO3 is still my favorite game. FO:NV is similar, the main quest is probably a bit shorter in NV than was 3 was but if you do all of the side quests its a lot longer. I'd imagine you could easily have over 100 hours of game play just to play it once beginning to end if you do a lot of the side quests. Never played DA:O but threw it in on your giveaway for the same reason you're conisdering it. I would personally say FO:NV but others may have input that have played both. ;) Merry Christmas HT!
     
  3. s2odin

    s2odin Merrica!

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    I played DA:O on PC and FO:NV on PS3. I must say, NV disappointed me a lot. I think DA:O is better from what I have played. You can play as different classes, races, and that allows you to start in different areas so you can have many different openings and many different endings. The combat in DA:O can get annoying sometimes tho, like when you are in a city and get jumped by like 25 people. Oh, and the AI in DA:O aren't the smartest either =/
     
  4. Kevin

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    Dragon Age. It's not even close, unless you just aren't going to enjoy an RPG of its scale. Then I'll help you compile a list of the best mods.

    I'd base it on your enjoyment of Fallout 3.

    DA:O = 50+ hours
     
  5. hydra

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    Loved both previous versions but will wait till the dust settles a bit before jumping on both of these. I'm never the first kid on the block with games ;)

    I love to play sniper with a bow or captured Dragonov SVD so will play some older games till the sales begin...
     
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    ^^^^See what I mean lol? The only other thing I will tell you about FO:NV is that it would probably suck on consoles, and if you don't want to mod the snot out of it in both the inf/cnfg files and 3rd party mods it's not that great. Optimization is pretty low in the "right out of the box" sense.
     
  7. TomTom2007

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    If you have played Fallout 3, then you have played New Vegas.
    Since you got bored after 30+ hours of Fallout 3, then you will probably lose your interest with New Vegas around that same time (maybe even less this time around, because New Vegas plays and sounds exactly the same as Fallout 3 plus all the bugs and glitches).

    I would definitely go for Dragon Age. Story and character development are much better in Dragon Age, the friendly banters between your squad members are gold. But the game can be difficult at times, learning curve is definitely there. But still, Dragon Age (plus the DLCs) is a far better choice.
     
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    tough to say. Which do you want a moderniish world rpg or a medival rpg?
     
  9. jerg

    jerg Have fun. Stay alive.

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    IMO DA:O is too unoriginal, it's just a straightup medieval dating sim.

    FO:NV on the other hand, is a goofy and refreshing experience, a path of discovery, and amazements, and disappointments, and sadness, and bliss. You will meet all kinds of NPCs, be told all kinds of (sometimes fudged up) stories, and encounter strange events and godlike weapons and armors. You can roleplay as a trigger-happy cowboy, a stone-cold sniper, or a deadly boxer. You can align with or rebel against any (of many many) unique factions in the world, all of which are shades of grey, and change your mind later if you want to. You'll probably like the modding system on weapons, but might prefer to find the unique versions of those weapons instead.
    Also, you'll be so sick of the phrase "patrolling the Mojave almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter" by the end of 50+ hours into the game. Ha ha.
     
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    I would recommend DA:O as well. I found myself immersed in the game, characters and storyline a lot quicker. Also, you get to play other races with their story. A lot of re playability I guess.
     
  11. Mastershroom

    Mastershroom wat

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    My vote goes to New Vegas. I loved Fallout 3, and New Vegas basically improved on everything that made FO3 awesome, and fixed some of the stuff I didn't really care for. For one thing, it's a lot easier to play like an FPS with the iron sights on all guns instead of just zooming in with crosshairs. The story is interesting, and you get to make plenty of choices.

    Perhaps a moderator should add a poll to the thread?
     
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    Personally I'd go with FO NV, simply because you know what your getting from FO3, yes it is very similar but that still didn't stop me killing 54 hours on it.
     
  13. Kevin

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    The biggest decision is FPS vs. tactical RPG.

    You said that DA:O "isn't your type of game", so while I'd love for you to try something new and enjoy it, I'd caution you against genre you aren't into, just because everyone else liked it.
     
  14. jerg

    jerg Have fun. Stay alive.

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    I put in ~47 hours into New Vegas before finally getting tired of my first character (level maxed out, got all godly guns).

    However that still leaves me with other builds / faction alignments to explore with.

    DA:O, on the other hand...I think I spent ~8 hours in total in it, before finally getting sick and tired around the werewolves part and stopped playing it altogether.
     
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    I don't see the point in getting DA:O since the sequel will be coming out soon
     
  16. Kevin

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    Their differences will make ME1 -> ME2 look like a direct clone.
     
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    Dragon Age Origins. I was the same way thinking, not my cup of tea. But the reviews just kept stacking and other players kept raving. And I played 15 hours in the first week I decided to try it... lols. I have over 50 hours now.

    And IMO DA:O will likely be much much better than the sequel. The sequel just looks like a ME2 clone from the bits I've read about it so far. On nightmare setting on DA:O even with plenty of gear, you die quick unless you strategize. It's definitely a game where every encounter you feel as if you won just barely, it never stops being challenging I thought. You can't just cruise control or your mage healer will die in seconds and then your rogue and soon your tank... Positioning, luring, flanking is always things that have to be executed.

    DA2 from the demos I've seen so far just look like arcade hack and slash...
     
  18. Mastershroom

    Mastershroom wat

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    New Vegas is not an FPS.
     
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    tianxia kitty!!!

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    but it's a lot closer to an fps than an rpg.
     
  20. jerg

    jerg Have fun. Stay alive.

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    New Vegas is not an FPS, it's better.

    It's what you want it to be. A pure FPS? Sure it can turn into that. A pure RPG? Yep easily done. A pure sim? Possible as well.
     
  21. HTWingNut

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    If NV is anything like FO3, then it's an RPG in the sense that you get to change your character traits somewhat as you go, not different character types altogether. But then it's mostly tactical FPS in a way.

    I meant to put a poll but forgot to click the option. I'll see if a mod is willing to do that this christmas eve! :D
     
  22. jerg

    jerg Have fun. Stay alive.

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    Comparing these two games is like, comparing a game that needs the player's creativity to be great, vs a game that needs the player to completely immerse himself to be good.

    The polar opposites in terms of games.
     
  23. HTWingNut

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    I'm not asking to compare. I'm asking which is a better experience.

    I've gathered FO:NV is more of FO3 which is good and bad.

    DA:O is a challenging RPG with an epic and engaging story.
     
  24. jerg

    jerg Have fun. Stay alive.

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    Very true. On the other hand, Fallout series supporters (or rather, Besthesda supporters in general) would argue that FONV challenges players to make their own story through actions and choices, while DA:O is a more or less static story (albeit with different order of events if the player chooses them so) like most other RPGs.

    It's apples and oranges, but hey, it all comes down to if you like apples (freedom) or oranges (story) more.
     
  25. Kevin

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    Which is a "better experience" is just too subjective. I can say that Dragon Age got GOTY nominations, but that means little.

    I say, one now, one at the next Steam sale.
    It really is, despite the stats going on behind the scenes. Or I'll refer to it as an RPG with FPS mechanics.
     
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    Don't tell me I have to make up my own mind. I'm not capable of such things!
     
  27. TomTom2007

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    Dragon Age - Origins Review:
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    Fallout New Vegas Review:
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    After watching both reviews, which one do you lean more toward to?
     
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    good reviews, I want dragon age, hopefully it will go on the daily sales. Also fallout nv looks like fun to me, I might also try that, at a later time though, since its a bit steep for me atm.
     
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    So have the bugs been squished in a patch for FO:NV?
     
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    If you want something closer to what an RPG should be, buy DA. If you looking for a hodge-podge, (Rpg/FPS/Generic), type of game go for FO NV !
     
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    Mastershroom wat

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    That's pretty much exactly how I would describe it.
    >FO:NV
    >Generic

    wat
     
  32. jerg

    jerg Have fun. Stay alive.

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    Implying DA:O isn't typical generic linear RPG, and FO:NV isn't an fresh and open game that plays however the player wants it to play.

    2/10
     
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    You really couldn't have picked two more dissimilar games. I say take New Vegas now. Go with the familiar commodity first.

    Dragon Age Ultimate Edition is $25, today only though.
     
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    DA:O should be renamed D.O.A. I'm so pissed I spent $50 on that game. I keep trying to give it chances and it keeps disappointing. FO3 on the other hand was a great game. The only reason I haven't gotten NV is because it's basically the same game and I'm low on cash. So to be honest, if you've played FO3, I recommend neither. =/
     
  35. Ruckus

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    Well if you need help making a decision, well take mine with grain of salt since I couldn't stand FO3. Was so bored, I usually stopped playing because I was sleeping on the keyboard.

    DA:O, the voice acting is far far superior to FO3. And the story is compelling from the very beginning. FO3 seems like a game I would have had to play for HOURS and HOURS to even become a little interested. Maybe post apocalyptic stores aren't my thing, I couldn't have cared less about the Vault and the surrounding area in FO3 and I thought the voice acting to be mediocre at best.

    Your party members will randomly chatter, and it's hilarious. All the voice actors are excellent. Their individual side quests are interesting, that you will seek them out. And your relationship/interaction with your party members can be tricky. One wrong choice with them can seal any chance of a different outcome. Hint, choose carefully when you talk to them, or as I do save before just in case.

    Side quests
    just like ME2 are rewarding and engrossing. In some ways they are just as fun as the main quest line. And as others have noted, it seems at first a typical fantasy storyline, then you discover, wow, this is awesome. This is not what I expected!

    The combat is not like a typical MMORPG where your individual skills are flashy and you are soloing your quests etc. The combat fun is when you crank up the difficulty and strategize. Deciding where do you want to kite the mob and where to make your stand. Who do you send to fight which enemy, what crowd control skills to use, and each party member should have a skill to counter your enemies. At least for me, each encounter felt like desperation, where death for all my party members seemed imminent.

    Time is consumed! I have not finished the game and I am already at 50 hours. I think I have another 10-20 hours left. And this does not include the other two large DLC content for two of the party members and the mods available for DA:O or the expansion DA Awakening. So prepared to have your time consumed!

    If you buy, here are my recommendations

    Play as an elf Rogue. I just found the Elf storyline more interesting. And yes depending on what race, your story will be different. Sure the mainline will be the same, but even dialogue etc in same situation will differ slightly depending on your race and gender. I would go with Rogue since you will have to pick pocket, unlock doors, treasures, and disarm traps etc. This will all be easier if your main character can do it all without having to switch to your rogue. Plus the Rogue is the fastest and highest DPSing class, it tears up everything.

    Go slow in each room. Click on everything. Search every corpse, every chest and crate. Use the "TAB" key which will bring up names for anything you may not see. Back tracking or going back is pain, so just spend the extra time to be thorough, and you will be rewarded for it. These will often lead to interesting bonus side quests or finding items you need for other quests, or finding hidden rooms etc. I customized the TAB key to my mouse key 4 for easy use. The function is called "Highlight Useable Items"
     
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    Ruckus, thanks for that detailed insight. That's the kind of feedback I'm looking for. +1.

    I think I'm going for DA:O based on the reviews and feedback I've read. I'm sure I'll pick up FO:NV when it drops to $10-$15 at some point.

    I just really want an engaging single player game that I can play at my own skill and pace.
     
  37. Ruckus

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    I've been picking away at DA:O at my own pace for months now. I put in 15 hours the first week though, after I just went at my own pace. It's not that I lost interest because I didn't. But it's like watching your favorite show. Watching it in marathon all at once or one episode every few days? Savoring it IMO is more enjoyable. Anyways, have fun with whatever you choose. Maybe after I'll give FO3 another try.
     
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    Fallout 3 and NV > It's a FPS..........no, it's an OTS shooter,........ no, it's a tactical shooter,...............no, it's an rpg..........no, it's a.................just WTH is it.

    It's a game that was made to appeal to the masses by using a hodge-podge of different genres !

    Is it a true rpg..........................no !

    Is it a good game.............it's o.k. but nothing earth shattering !
     
  39. SparhawkJC

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    My 2 cents.

    Dragon Age: Origins I was compelled to complete the game from start to finish, and have completed it multiple times. Fallout New Vegas: Sunk around 10 hours into the game until I started getting serious deja vu and got side tracked by other games. It feels like an expansion pack to FO:NV while Dragon Age was a spiritual successor to the Baldur's Gate series that made Bioware into one of my favorite game devs.

    Another plus with DA:O is the active modding community. Enhanced texture packs, gameplay mechanic fixes, and also user created adventures and items add considerable replay value to this game. On top of that Bioware's also pushed out a lot of post-release content with their DLC (hit or miss quality wise) and Awakening.
     
  40. jerg

    jerg Have fun. Stay alive.

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    LOL troll harder. If you want to play it like a tactical shooter, you play it that way and it WILL play out that way. Same with the other genre choices (albeit some genres play out weaker e.g. pure FPS). Personally for me, I like to play it half-way between an RPG and first-person shoot 'em up, and it plays out well that way.
     
  41. rdalev

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    No trolling here , just my opinion, whether you like it or not. Most game devs today, instead of concentrating on a FPS only or an RPG only or a Strategy only game, try to combine all 3 , hoping to entice the masses to whom those types of games might appeal...............see mo' money !

    While most of these games are ok......(FO3, ME, Etc.),yes I have played them, there is really nothing innovative about them.

    Personally, I'd rather play a FPS ala Half Life or an RPG ala DA:Origins, The Witcher, FO1 or 2 or a strategy game ala Starcraft !

    I think it's great that Devs. are making games for the lemmings of the world like you.................bet you own an I phone too !

    Now back on topic.........imo , your money is better spent on DA: Origins !
     
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    I got DA:O as a Christmas gift, it's a bit hard to get into. the whole setup is slightly confusing and it's fairly difficult considering it's on normal difficulty and I've played about an hour. the difficulty is not a bad thing, just frustrating when I don't even know whats going on half the time, or what anything really does.
     
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    With Ultimate Edition including all the DLC and Awakening, you can put at least 50 hours in, I rushed through it on recent playthroughs in 40 hours, and that is rushed.

    Not to mention different classes and races will depend which origin you start off in, I think there are 6 different starts to the game?

    No brainer to go with DA:O, while it is a very difficult game imo, it starts being very rewarding tactically once you get into a groove. I am currently finishing a game on hard and while it started off difficult I eventually just figured everything out and I think it is borderline easy now.
     
  44. stevenxowens792

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    My opinion, Dragons Age of (C)onsoles is just that. A console game that tries to be an RPG. It's pretty much a follow the story around the map, add to your skill tree and complete. It's not really an RPG when compared to games like Neverwinter Nights 2.

    If you haven't purchased a game yet, I would get the Neverwinter Nights 2 platinum for 9.99 on steam.

    Fallout Vegas was a bit short but I liked it. I liked it a lot better than DA(C). It had all the old skills and decent weapons. I liked the story line and in the end had lots of fun playing.

    Again this is just my opinion. I really wanted to like Dragons Age a lot at first when it came out but it's a big install, very little RPG.

    Best Wishes, StevenX
     
  45. Kevin

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    Once the game opens up, go to the Mage's Tower first.

    Highlight below to see the reason:

    There you'll get a dedicated healer, which immediately lowers the difficulty.
     
  46. SparhawkJC

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    You could also install a companion respec mod and make Morrigan heal right from the start if you want more progression options.
     
  47. Prydeless

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    It's funny to read criticism like that considering it was in development for the PC exclusively before EA bought BioWare. Then it was delayed so it could be ported and released at the same time for consoles. Not trying to troll you or anything. It's just a little weird especially since it wasn't as popular with the console crowd.

    I only played a little bit of Baldur's Gate in the '90s, but from the gameplay I've seen of DAO, both play the same. Would you not consider BG a real RPG since it's ranked high with RPG fans?
     
  48. Kevin

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    Yeah, I actually do play with the Ring Of Rebirth.

    I'm just about to start working on a Dragon Age Mods thread, to help people with the essential downloads.

    If you have any suggestions, feel free to PM them to me.
     
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    @Prydless, I've been on pc since the mid 80s and ultima 3 and 4 were the big RPG fad. I liked Baldurs Gate 1 and 2 a lot. Dragons Age is nowhere near them in RPG value. Again just my opinion. The Graphics are nice but I am well beyond the need for the "shiny penny" to get my attention. Storyline, replay value, options, class rules, etc...

    The OP was DA(C) vs Fallout NV. I would choose NV all the way.

    Best Wishes, StevenX
     
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    Yep. Dragon Age was made for PC by Bioware. BioWare didn't even do the port to console, that was outsourced... It's not that the game isn't RPG anymore, it's simply made for a larger audience. With game development costs, they have to make a profit somewhere. Making a game that only hardcore RPG fans doesn't make any sense for game of this budget. Personally I think BioWare did a great job in creating DA:O. It's a game that casual fans like myself who normally would take a dump on a RPG game like Neverwinter Nights, and yet be satisfying enough for the hardcore fans also. I know plenty of RPG fans who play RPG games exclusively and all consider DA:O a solid RPG game respectable from BioWare whom they love.
     
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