Far Cry 3 lead dev: consoles lack the ?grandeur? of PCs

Far Cry 3 lead dev: consoles lack the “grandeur” of PCs | PC Gamer

Amen! Love it when a dev is pro PC gaming. Exactly how I feel about my precious PC games. I own an Xbox 360, and it holds the dust on my desk for me...

 

So true. I'm having so much more fun with the games I recently got for my new lappy than I ever did with Xbox.

 

PC does give you that extra juice required to make a really good looking game.
From the E3 video i think Far Cry 3 looks really nice, but the video dident look like it was from PC.

I own all the current generation consoles, and i can say that after buying myself a proper notebook i dont use the consoles as much.

Mostly my Wii is on dust collection duty because i have finished all the good stuff, but looking forward to the new Zelda game.

Both my Xboxes, a Slim and a older Homebrew unit joined my Wii.
May change with Forza 4.

PS3 is still used, just got Castle Crashers on PSN+ for free and loving the game.
Idk if they will do a PC release but i think they should release it on PC.

 

I just had to weigh in here as seemingly the only TRUE gamer left. I have a great LAN and I love every PC I've got. I also game plenty on PC but I couldnt ever go without my 360 or my PS3 or the Wii!! All have great strengths and games! I just hate when peeps gotta pick a darned side.

Cant play Mario Galaxy 2 on the precious PC
Wont be playing Halo 4 on a PS3
Cant play Heavy Rain on a lil Wii
And ya damn sure aren't playin much Sins of a Solar Empire on a 360



...No Super Tecmo on the Dreamcast.....Crazy Taxi on a Genesis RIGHT.....Sonic & Knuckles, sry SNES.....list goes on and on....

 

Wha...what??? No, I beg to differ. PC is superior to all the other gaming platforms for many reasons which I won't even begin to explain here.

 

You can, and will be able to play all of these games on PC with emulators. You can also use many different types controllers on the PC.

The only thing that consoles have over PC is 'exclusivity', but like I said...emulation is 20/20.

We wouldn't even need consoles if developers converged to the PC platform. They are perfectly capable of handling motion sensor controls, 4 player lan games, online server games, plugging into the entertainment system...etc.
There is nothing that consoles have that PC doesn't/couldn't have besides exclusive content due to contracts and agreements.

The reality is that a console = a Computer with limited/specialized capabilities.

 

Have to agree with you here. Although I find PC gaming to be far superior to consoles -- I own an ps3. If you are a true gamer you will simply want to play more games, especially exclusives. I cant wait to get my hand on 'The Last Guardian' (Shadow of Colossus sequel).

That being said like I mentioned if I had a choice between my desktop or my PS3, well considering my dekstop is about 4x more powerful in every way, the choice is easy.

 

Far cry 3 look dumb like most modern fps game.

 

Not totally dumb. xD
This game has multiple ways to complete the levels.

If it was dumb then it would have need a carefully designed path with each side blocked by crap like cars or fences so that you can only go forward.

 

Well Far cry 2 was a major disappointment. I say it dumb (FC3) is I still don't like the shooting mechanic of modern fps game. And isn't that the reason why we play game is for the gameplay? It look a lot like JC 2 in fps mode. I will buy it once next year on steam summer sale

 

What do you mean shooting mechanic of modern fps game?

 

The gun are too fat, the weapon don't look realistic, the aim down sight is too easy to use, the hit detection is not realistic, recoil is weak, no real trajectory with the weapon and doesn't account for the wind usage, too much aim down sight whereas old school fps use a mixture of hip firing and aim down sight, the killing is not satisfactory, enemy spawn on screen way too much that why most modern fps have zombie mode. Map are narrow, field of vision stink, too many enemies all screen (doesn't take much to find them), unrealistic location, too much lighting make the environment detail look fake, old school things like peek, strafe, teamwork are missing. It now just run and gun nowadays.

Play some Delta Force games and you will understand perfectly what I mean.

 

Yes I played Delta Force a lot...the first one at least. Was very arcadey.

 

I love this kind of posts.. *Cliff Clave*

seems that you will either need to enlist in the army to "satisfy" all of your fps needs or accept the sad and true reality that fps games are NOT REAL, that's why they are called "video games", Thus, nothing will be as realistic as a tour duty in iraq or holding a real gun on your hand.

 

Don't get me wrong, if I had to be trapped with just one, i would take my best PC. But most (really all but Ill say most for fun) emulators are CRAP. Gotta get the real thing!

At the end of the day, I just love riling up the fanboys. "PC is superior in every way".....LOVE IT!!!

 

Guns are too fat? lolwut? The weapon doesn't look realistic? Explain please.

Also, recoil IRL isn't a jet engine under the weapon. Trained soldiers can have the weapon to have 0 recoil. And many weapons have anti-recoil systems.

 

I actually prefer to play emulators more than the handhelds I own, you get more features, better resolution, ability to save anywhere and some emulators outdo their console counterparts, for example Dolphin.

 

As some one else has already mentioned, emulators on the PC can play many of those titles you mentioned.

I also own an Xbox360 but found that after playing PC games at higher resolutions with the ability to use Mods, I can no longer put up with console games. So surprisingly for me, my console is simply collecting dust in a plastic bag. People chose a side because they get so used to a higher quality that they simply cannot go back. Kind of like how I can never go back to using a mechanical HDD after using an SSD.

 

If you look at it at an COMPLETELY objective point of view, the PC is superior IN EVERY SINGLE POINT OF VIEW! Yes the games might differe, but the PC is superior to all consoles in every single way! This is not the words of a fan boy, i have my xbox and psp which i love so dearly. I have over 1000 hours on a psp game... But still, me and im guessing most of this forum with any knowledge to technology would agree with me!
@ the rest talkin bout realism, yes a good solider knows how to keep the recoil down on his firearm, it will not be 0 especially not with an AK47 which has some decent recoil. I would have to say that the recoil in Far Cry 3 seems decent, doesent seem too much underrated and not too overrated either!

 

Eh, I prefer Xbox.

PC is too weak to handle any games good enough like the Xbox does.

 

FixedTenChars.

 

I was just about to do the exact same thing. That is unless there are still console owners who believe they're ahead of top end PC's...

 

*facepalm* My old dell computer with the 7600gt is better looking than both the Ps3 and 360, so only wonder how outdated those console gpu are. They are probably worst than the 310m low range macbook gpu as well.

 

i will take that statement with 100 grains of salt

 

You better be trolling.

I'll give you a 1/10.

Spoiler

I replied.

 

Hands down the most ridiculous post I've ever read in my life.

The X360 is a gaming PC from 2005. That's all it is.

 

NOBODY hipfires in real life. That's why reflex sights exist, so you can swing your weapon up and draw a bead faster than with iron sights or a tele sight. In real life, you don't have a crosshair floating dead center in your field of vision. Running around firing from the hip is a good way to get yourself killed in anything that isn't a video game.

 

That's not quite right. Its CPU was originally PowerPC-based and the GPU was custom designed by ATI. Slims have everything on one chip these days, but that's largely beside the point.

It is arguably more PC-like than, say, the Playstation 3, but optimizing for a single target allows game developers to squeeze much more power out of the relatively old and meager hardware. You can't compare its performance to regular gaming PCs from 2005 (the year of the 360's launch).

Note that this doesn't mean that it can compete graphically with far more modern hardware that you can buy today as [email protected] strongly implied.

(I don't own a 360).

 

It's a gaming PC. From 2005. Obviously it's optimized for gaming, and I get your point and I know that, but it's not like there's some kind of sorcery going on that allows the Xbox to run games.

X360 graphics are also starting to look pretty dated.

 

Yeah, the correct statement is that the 360 is a 2006/2007 gaming PC (it depends: if looking only at its GPU then it was outpaced in 2006, if looking at its tri-core processor, then it was outpaced by the Quad Cores in 2007).

 

My point is that the games are heavily optimized for the 360, not the other way around. A consequence of this optimization is also that games for the PC perhaps weren't (aren't) as optimized for that platform as they could've been thus effectively nullifying the performance edge that PCs had.

I'm personally fine with the consoles setting low standards though. That means that relatively modest laptops can keep up as well.

 

The reason games aren't optimised for PC's is because devs can never be bothered to write them for PC's in the first place. They just port over the console code.

I can't really remember the last time a true PC game came out which wasn't running on the source engine. If devs really feel the need to port things over, then I at least wish they could get one programmer who also plays PC games to get the input right.

Prime example of this is bioshock, it honestly feels like they just mapped the stick inputs to the mouse axis. It also has:

-Mouse smoothing
-Mouse lag "compensation" which cuts your FPS (if it were properly written then there wouldn't be input lag in the first place)
-It multiplies the mouse movement so that a setting of "1" still feels like you've taken 5 cups of espresso intravenously
-It feels really slow and cumbersome to move anywhere
-Worst of all they forced mouse acceleration through the game engine

All of this wouldn't be so bad had they not actually said something along these lines "here we're all died hard PC FPS players, we promise not to give you a blatent console port but give you a good scalable PC game with nice tight controls". Nice tight controls my ***.

/rant

 

Hope they don't have the respawning enemies this time.