Farcry 2 Gameplay Thread

i thought id start a new thread about this since this just came out and lots of people are getting it

im not going to say anything about graphics ill just say they're adequate but could have been better, they really remind me of COD4 more than Crysis

EDIT: having spent some more time with the graphics, it looks ALOT like COD4, down to the golden-glowing weapons, although COD4 graphics were actually noticeably better IMO

what really got to me were what i consider bad design choices AKA this gameplay sucks

ill keep updating as i come across more as ive only been playing about 30 minutes

1) car fix animation - totally pointless and unrealistic (EDIT: after all the other glaring omissions its even more irritating that they spent time making this animation instead of including something like a flashlight or a lean function or a prone function OR a "climb out of that window" function)
2)MAP/MONOCULAR - whenever you have the map out it obscures the entire screen, this would be okay BUT this is the only time you can use the binocular...which means that you CANT see the screen until you zoom in with the binoculars (monocular in this case), EXTREMELY annoying, no idea how this made it past the beta stage, try holding a map in front of your face in real life and then using the binoculars quickly switching between the map and binoculars zoomed in you'll quickly understand how frustrating it is
3) no compass on HUD, its great they went for the no-hud design but it really sucks to have to look at your map every 3 seconds to get your bearings, not very realistic imo since IRL he'd have a mini compass on his wrist or something
4)cant go prone...EVAR
5) cant open doors to simple mudshacks until the appropriate game cue is triggered, in this case it was a phone call which i chose to ignore and thus could not get into the house but as soon as i finished talking all it took is a twist of the doornob and i was in...UNREALISTIC, why not give the ability to kick open doors?! even though most of them are unlocked to begin with you just cant open them..lame
6) weapons light up with that golden glow, just like COD4, havent found a way to turn it off, kills realism
7) cant lean side to side...are you serious?!
8) cant climb out of windows big enough to fit a suma wrestler at full height....some windows can be climbed out of while identical ones cannot, it makes no sense at all and kills realism
9)cant climb anything...at all..not even a small one-story wooden shack...no environment interaction = boring

ill put more as i come across them but im pretty heavily disappointed

EDIT: okay here's another one: one of your first missions is to assault a camp and there's a fence running around it but its not really a fence its posts with 2 wires (not even barbed wire just wire) runnig between them with a gap big enough that a cow could walk through it, but you have to run around it because you cant go through the fence..(in real life all this would require is you slightly bending your body forward and walking straight through it)...what were they thinking?!

MORE....enemy AI SUCKS...i was able to calmly stroll up to a guy with a shotgun and knife him to death with a machete while he was looking straight at me firing only one shot the whole time (which missed btw)

MORE....its getting dark and i just found out i dont have a flashlight OR nightvision...***? not even a flashlight that goes on your weapon...NOTHING, there isnt even a binding for flashlight in control options so im wondering if ill even find one later.....WOW

MORE...there is no meelee attack for the guns....wow....i thought crysis was a step back in gameplay but this game is 10 steps back from Crysis...incredible...while Crysis suit powers were unrealistic they actually helped immerse you in the game by allowing you to climb roofs jump over fences etc. all of these things could have been implemented without a super-jump but were not

EDIT: MORE....walking into a room triggers the same voiceover line over and over if you turn around and exit the house then enter again...just standing in that room looking around triggers it again...and again..and again...i wont tell you what the line is but it summarizes my feelings about this game 100%; its in the first camp, 2nd mission, brick house, cant miss it

MORE: *bit of a spoiler* after you rescue your first "buddy" you cant even talk to him he just stands there looking retardedly at the wall, 0 interaction...not to mention that the first thing he does when you rescue him is start making fun of your sickness with malaria ...and thats also the last thing he does as after that he just stands there and you cant talk to him or anything *end spoiler* 0 interaction = FAIL

EDIT: going inside some shacks is a level-change, and an automatic weapon holster, which means you cant look in the windows or anything and as soon as you enter the door is already closed behind you, which is good for the guy that i rescued because i was going to blow his brains out but since he wont leave the house from which i just rescued him (you would think he'd be running away from it as fast as he could or at least follow me since its nighttime and we're in the middle of africa and he's an unarmed white guy) and i cant take my weapon out without leaving the house so he's in the "safe zone" ....lol this is so pathetic

EDIT DAY2: it takes like 30 minutes to drive to your objective, REAL LIFE 30 minutes, WHAT? i seriously had to drive then take a river boat then walk for 10 minutes just to get there and it only takes about 3 minutes to wipe everyone out and finish the mission, aka 90% of the mission is getting there

EDIT DAY2: my jeep gets stuck on EVERYTHING, physics are retarded, WALKING into a steel oil drum that weighs at least 100lbs in real life sends it flying about 5 feet like its made out of lightweight plastic, but other objects like little trees (more like bushes) stop your jeep dead in its track (just like any game from the 90's) forget about running over small trees, my 4x4 jeep gets stuck on any pebble bigger than an apple, its so frustrating because inside the car you cant see anything of whats going on or what you're even stuck on and i get stuck CONSTANTLY on the plains even, on things that would never stop a real 4x4; disgusting

EDIT DAY2: the enemy AI is TERRIBLE, their only 4 tactics are stand and shoot, run left and shoot, run right and shoot and stand there and do nothing, half the time its the latter one; you could kill anyone without even using guns just by hacking away at them with a machete; oh and do they even toss grenades? ive been in about 50 firefights not a single grenade has been tossed at me although there are grenades on their corpses after i kill them

EDIT DAY2: the glowing weapons...this really starts to annoy you as you walk around in half-darkness and all you see are these brightly glowing weapons lying all over the ground, same with the usable iteams they all glow bright gold

EDIT DAY2: still no flashlight, no night vision...nothing....what the **** ...at least let me pick up one of the 100000 lanterns that are strewn all over the gameworld

EDIT DAY2: there are no civillians, excepting the special NPCs, none, no kids, no women, no men without guns, towns are empty and seem deserted except for the mercs, bus stations are completely deserted, there is no traffic on any of the roads except for the mercs that chase you

am i the only one that thinks these are glaring omissions?

i thought Clear Sky kind of sucked, but it was genious compared to this game

i think much of this can be blamed on simultaneous development for consoles, in fact this is a console game not a PC game as far as im concerned, i will not support such games with my money and i dont think anyone else should unless they want more watered-down FPSs

shame on all the big-name reviewers for raving about how great it is....this game was actually more over-hyped than crysis

EDIT DAY2: anyways i pretty much quit playing this game, im gonna go back play stalker with oblivion lost wait for Fallout 3 to come out

id seriously think twice before paying over $30 for this game; dont believe the professional reviewers

 

Wow interesting read. Hm, why don't companies make demos anymore, lol? I hope others who are playing the game pipe in with their impressions.

 

im going to sleep; im so disgusted with this game right now

now you know why they didnt release a demo

 

Your first buddy was a male? Maybe depends on what character you choose to be. Mine was female and she didn't actually make fun of my malaria, lol.

 

I'm getting it tomorrow or the day after for 360 so I'll let you know what I think.

 

Depressing. Still want to try it out though.

Looking forward to other ppl's opinions of this, the last FPS from Ubi I played was Ghost Recon (the first one) so pretty much anything is going to be an improvement

 

I was really looking forward to this game. I hope it's not that bad.

 

FarCry2 is not bad. They took a totally different approach from the first game and Crysis. Its more like a STALKER then FarCry1. Now to some that might be a surprise, especially to me. I was expecting kick *** shooter as Crysis was. Its still a good game but might not be what u expect it to be. If u compare it to games like STALKER then it makes sense.

 

It's not horrible at all. Pretty **** good still. It's just missing some essentials, which is admittedly disappointing. Like I said, still great though.

 

I agree with the monocular thing. Sort of makes it useless since you either 1. can't see anything (but your map) or 2. are zoomed way in. Also, maybe it's just me, but when I activate the monocular, the sensitivity of the mouse increases greatly. This means that the view through the monocular is flying all over the place.

My biggest gripe is that the game is too brown. It makes it hard to identify anything since everything just blends together. I like the AI intelligence, as they don't stand in one place the whole time, but instead, they're contantly trying to flank you. However, since everything is brown, it's hard to see where the enemies are, even when you're staring right at them. Compound this with the fact that this game has a freaking immense amount of folliage, and all I can see are leaves and my blood as I'm getting shot. And oh, let's not forget the blurring effect either.

So to recap - brown + leaves + blur = me dead.

Finally, I think the distance you have to be within to interact with something is too close. You practically have to have your nose touching the door before you can open it, or you have to be inches away from a weapon to pick it up.

If I were to review it at this point (which is way too early), I think the game is still good, though I preferred the mechanics in Crysis a lot more. FarCry 2 gives you freedom by presenting you with a seamless world, but at the same time you still feel restricted because your character is bound so tight.

 

Thanks for your honesty. Im probably not going to get the game now. Going to get Crysis: Warhead instead. I was hesitating after the most hyped game of the second half of the year was only getting 8.5s from major review sites even though the reviews were more negative than I expected. This thread helps confirm my doubts

 

I still think that it's a good game. Just not any sort of "ground-breaker" like it's hyped up to be.

It does get better as I get more in-tune with the controls. Setting up ambushes is pretty fun, though getting chased every 30 seconds from passing the lookouts isn't. Another gripe at this point is that NPCs respawn too fast at the checkpoints. I drove away for a less than a minute, went back to the lookout expecting it to be clear, and got my head shot off.

 

I agree with almost everything the OP said and it is quite disappointing. However, even with these issues I have to say I'm really enjoying the game and surely that's what counts. I think maybe we analyse a little too much these days due to all the other brilliant games we've had in the past. Just enjoy it for what it is.

 

yeah i fell like im geting chased all the time. i really dont like that.

 

any words on the multiplayer part of this game? is it fun and have a shot at holding a strong community?

 

So... back to good ol' Serious Sam ?

After this reviews I wonder if I want to buy this game or skip it...

 

personally i take offense when game developers willingly choose not to incorporate what have been proven as solid design improvements; our standards for gaming go up with time (i hope?), it just amazes me that new games wouldnt incorporate the best of the games that came before them, so as to further the genre somewhat...

also i think comparisons with Stalker are a bit of an insult to Stalker, then again i played it with OblivionLost2.2 so it was much improved; Stalker also didnt let you go prone and i vented quite a bit about that, but at least let you lean as any person that played it on hard difficulty will tell you is a vital function in an fps

FC2 suffers from obvious consolitis

fact is, alot of the features can be implemented in a patch, such as leaning, fixing the map/monocular, improving jump to get through windows without crouch-jumping like a retard for 2 minutes before giving up (any sort of realism goes out the window when you cant climb through an open window that begins 3 feet off the ground....), also one thing i didnt mention but it feels very limiting in the first levels as it channels you through the hills that you cannot climb, making it quite linear in that sense; stalker did not have that except at the map edges

anyways if others can look past these things and still enjoy the game...well...you're target demographic..congrats; i cant; the game was marketed as something more than an arcade shooter and it really isnt

 

Amen to that !! my all time fav

thanks for the info btw all, good honest review/s

glad i dont have to pay for it

;-)

 

It seems like they just attempted to skip the basics. It's not exactly the biggest let down. Worth playing still I'd say. Just didn't meet its potential.

 

It's your experience that counts, you have to play the game to see what you like the most altough reviews always help, especially from other users.

 

It is disappointing to know that the game lacks polishes in the simple aspects
although they took a long time to deliver. I was thinking to buy this title but I have decided to wait for more reviews before deciding on it.

 

These are great reviews on gameplay, thanks everyone. I think I will like this game and get it, but not right now. As said maybe some of these issues will be addressed in a patch. With so many AAA games coming out right now, I can hold off on this at the moment.

Crysis Warhead is a blast! For $30 it is worth every penny. You won't be disappointed imo. Get it

 

you know your post made me think...fallout 3....its probably going to be just as disappointing -_- it doesnt even have iron sights lol

5 days till Fallout 3...please dont suck please dont suck

 

I agree with most or all of the OP's complaints.. I was really hoping this game would be awesome. I'm pretty disappointed. I installed it last night with the intention of staying up all night playing, and ended up going to bed after playing for about 45 minutes.

Oh, the other thing.. this game feels like Grand Theft Auto with some ques from the Stalker series...

I'm really disappointed.. I'll probably still beat the game but its definitely not going to be as epic as I thought it was going to be.. Watching gameplay videos a few days ago I thought this was going to be the best FPS ever, but its just been a let down so far.

 

wow, after reading this post and all the bad comments about the game i dont think im even gonna buy it. unless someone can convince me that the multiplayer will hold strong - can anyone fill me in on the multiplayer side of this game?

 

why oh why did i not read this before i bought it? *cries in the corner*

all jokes aside, it truely feels like a budget pc title.
the graphics are really dated looking imo
even on my friends system, everything turned to ultra etc it looks dated.

the gameplay is just a huge huge letdown. its this weird mix of "realistic" with quake-style stuff.
dont know how to explain it very well, but its like,
you have no hud, and use iron sights, but the guns still have cone-fire (proud owner of three guns here, bullets DO indeed go where the barrel is pointed.....) and shooting a guy in the head from 15 feet away with a handgun, instead of flopping over dead, he turns and blasts you with his rifle. meh, boring.

the story is so contrived and convoluted, doesnt make whole lot of sense.
when you first start for example, theres no explanation of who you are, why you are there, or who you work for. your a guy in a jeep who has a disease. the rest is just guessing. after the "tutorial section" you are just kinda tossed into the world. so... umm....how do i even get started ????? after you muck around and figure out how to progress the story (i HATE it when theres not so much as a friggin NUDGE in how to progress the story) it just kinda stay "blah".

as you unlock new and more "powerfull" weapons, i was once again disapointed by the lack of "power" of these new weapons that i worked so hard to get. theres barely a noticeable difference in performance between the n00b guns and the top of the line ones.


but my biggest gripe? the multiplayer sucks. it sucks big hairy donkey nutts. thats one thing this game does like a pro....

everything else just feels so budget title.

 

I agree with everybody. Far Cry 2 was hyped to be the next big game. Everybody was bragging about its graphics, the Dunia engine, open environment and less demanding.

My complaints:
- Graphics in COD4 and far better then Far Cry 2.
- Far Cry 2 comes no where near to Crysis in any way. (FC2 AI is horrible, visuals are garbage etc..)
- The spreading fire that was so hyped was so unrealistic.
- Playing at night with no source of light is bogus
- And how do you get Malaria from a car ride, thats something that shouldve have come later in the game (personally i wouldn't have included it at all.)

This game is a HUGE disappointment, I cant play it anymore and am uninstalling it and giving it to my cousin.

/end rant

 

CrAzYsIm you must be crazy... COD4's GFX are better than Farcry 2? give me a break please...

When a Crysis game comes out people are like F**k this company they cant make games, the game is soo unoptimised, when a game like Stalker comes out people say oooh its soo glitchy, id rather play Crysis on 10 FPS, when a game like Farcry 2 comes out, which is best of both words (Gameplay+performance +Graphics)then people are zomg Graphics are garbage, Gameplay is sh!t, guys give me a break please..

 

see the problem with that line of thinking is that farcry2 isnt a good mix of stalker and crysis, graphics-wise or gameplay-wise

like i said before, this game can still be salvaged

-add flashlight/night vision/or at least a weapon light
-prone ability
-better window climbing/jump higher (crouch-jump doesnt work right now)
-weapon damage more realistic (right now its just laughable, but vanilla stalker sucked in this regard too and so did crysis)
-graphics are FINE, leave them the way they are
-doors that should be open or at least open-able are closed..it SUCKS
-more destructive environment (i guess asking for crysis-level destruction would be asking for too much)
-having to drive/swim/run for half an hour (real time) to get to the mission site SUCKS, especially when combat is so unrewarding
-give us a real inventory and a real weight limit and let people decide what they want to carry, none of that "one of each gun" BS
-why cant you put on/remove scopes/grenade launchers from weapons? tactically this system from stalker is unmatched, you cant use a scoped AK in close quarters but you take the scope off and use the ironsights...props to stalker for introducing this simple yet genius idea and anti-props to farcry for not including it
-different ammo types
-different firing modes?!?!
-how about some civillians?! this is supposed to be a living african region....with no civillians? none? some kids in the streets, some women carrying stuff...anything?


the fact is FC2 is console game through and through its obvious in every aspect of it thus it cannot match the complexity of a true PC game without dedicated patching, hopefully the community will address this as the game DOES have alot of potential

to sum it up: performance and graphics arent AWESOME but they are OKAY, the gameplay is where this game fails miserably

 

but that doesnt make COD4 with it dated Graphics near Farcry 2 does it? seriously.. the only Graphical thing i found good in COD4 is the Glowing Golden Desert Eagle.

 

ok . I have to agree with brainer.

first. Crysis had a story line worth not following, as it had no thought stoppers or any thought put into it at all

second. Crysis was rated 9 or higher by many reviewers however: bad story + poor performance + retarded AI(figures why they are wearing helmets, does not equal an exceptional game like cod4 or half life 2.

Graphics don't make the game funner, a smooth performing game that works adds to the base of whats offered in any game.

Everyone complained about crysis being a poorly optimized game, and having absolutely no depth to it. Now A game comes out with more depth similar graphics but lacks the only elements that made crysis enjoyable at all. and the game is considered an epic failure.

what good is graphics if its chugging like a slideshow, and what good is having destructable enviroments when the game is so poorly thought out it destroys your mind first ?

cod4 as fun because it had a epic sense of you actually being in the level, and although the graphics are not as good as crysis, crysis is in no way comparable to cod4 in terms of gameplay enjoyment. Mainly due to the retarded AI and horrible performance.

From what ive read and seen, The graphics(shaders) look very similar to crysis, and the AI seems more intelligent, and performance sounds impressive. Maybe you should stop expecting anything from developers at all and make your own game, because arguing against farcry 2 by using crysis as a comparison sounds pretty laughable considering everyone seemed to hate crysis gameplay wise and performance wise.

 

Hail Eazy-E , just i want to clear something, i love COD4 and play it daily , its lovely

 

After playing Far Cry 2 some more today.. its pretty fun.. its definitely not the epic game it was meant to be but its still fun. Worth buying? Not sure..

COD 4 was an awesome game not because of graphics but because of gameplay..

Look at the most popular shooters.. CSS and COD4... what did they do? They used good graphics, nothing top of the line but good solid graphics, and made it about the gameplay and the story, not the graphics.

COD4 had, by far, the best storyline of any shooter ever IMO. Everybody loved the story. The scenarios they threw you in were amazing. CSS... was just a **** good shooter. No flashy graphics, no real weapon updates.. just a good shooter.

Crysis (the original) sucked. Crysis: Warhead was awesome. It was refined, it had the same amazing graphics that Crysis had, but they actually made the game fun, with a good storyline and added all the missing aspects from the original game.

I love Crysis: Warhead.

Far Cry 2... so far much better than the original Far Cry.. the graphics are pretty good and the physics are amazing.. It has some very sweet elements but it definitely wasn't refined.. I think it has the "Crysis sickness" where they focused more on graphics and physics than they did story and enjoyable gameplay elements..

Unfortunately there has yet to be a game (except maybe Crysis: Warhead) where designers have been able to focus on awesome graphics and have awesome story/gameplay elements that make the game fun to play.. Crysis: Warhead doesn't count either I guess because it was just an expansion to another game..

Those are my thoughts.. take 'em or leave 'em.. but for now.. I'm gonna go play some more Far Cry 2...

 

developers sell a product which people pay money for

we can expect whatever we want from the developers; if 90% of the people want pink flying elephants in Far Cry 3 they WILL put them in; people bought the game not knowing what exactly they were buying because no demo was released (perhaps purposefully), and now they are flooding the forums and whining about it, and rightfully so; if people arent whining about missing features how will the devs know what to fix in the patches and future titles?

your argument is flawed; we're not comparing farcry to crysis exclusively we're saying that farcry regresses on many of the innovations that were present in games that came before it (much of it due to the fact that its a console title)

as for making your own game, im sure many of us would make kickass games if we were the lead designers on a title like far-cry 2 and it was a pc-only title, but unnfortunately due to comparative cost advantage it is impractical for anyone to try to make their own game because game developers have the lowest opportunity cost of undertaking such a project, which is why we buy games instead of making them ourselves and can only hope and pray that developers implement the features we want because the # of good games that comes out every year is VERY SMALL, thus we ***** and moan about missing features when we are let down, just like we'll do for Fallout 3 no doubt; in fact there will probably be 5x more b*tching about Fallout 3 than Farcry

 

CS:S has 0 story, in fact im pretty sure it doesnt even have a tutorial or any explanation of why the terrorists are trying to kidnap hostages in a shipping company office or blow up stacks of useless crates in the middle east

COD4 did have a great story, NOT the best EVER (are you saying COD4 had a better story than SS2 and Deus Ex? blasphemy! -_- ); also COD4 had serious gameplay issues unless you like endlessly respawning enemies, magically regenerating health and tripping checkpoints

as for CS its great but i have to say i cant play it for more than 30-40min stretches anymore its just too arcadish after playing games with iron sights and enemies that cant strafe with machine guns; the beauty of CS is its co-op gameplay and no respawn, combined with some genius map design (de_dust2 is the most played map of any game ever made)

im sure most people that play CS on a regular basis could think of a few ways of improving the game to make it better but its the best we have right now in terms of multiplayer FPS

 

i think that answers my question on if the game is worth buying for multiplayer. that really sucks though because i had high hopes for a game like this and multiplayer.

oh well.. if neone else has nething to add about the mp aspect of this game please let me know

 

erm, i think that most of sandbox games have sucky multiplayer? (Stalker,Crysis,Farcry2) those games are supposed to be SP

 

I keep getting lost in the game. Is there a button to zoom out of the map?

 

Yes, hit 'R' to change the map scale.

 

i'd rep you but you have enough, xD

 

Are you kidding me? COD4 sucked. Everything felt too scripted and linear. Just like an interactive DVD or something...

Crysis is one of the best FPS games since HL2. It's brilliant (I'm talking about the gameplay, not just the graphics). If anyone disagrees, then you are wrong!

 

i dont think i'm wrong, Crysis sucked gameplay wise(excluding the suite) just kill,Blow, use computer at the green dot on map. tell me if i missed something.

 

^^ i agree, crysis was just shoot stuff and shoot some more stuff, and if your not doing anything shoot a bit more.....at least in CoD4 you kind of had a purpose....and the story was pretty involving...i have played it more than once.

i think i might wait for a patch/update/expansion before i get FC2.

 

so DONT buy this game if ur expecting a solid fun multiplayer experience? thats all im really interested in because i only go for multiplayer...

 

I agree with brainer and disagree with Jayson S...lol

 

im not so impressed thus far, unless you have 2xAA enabled i dont think the graphics are all that great.

Just was expecting a bit more of a COD4 type game, but more open. O well..

 

heh, I like this review...
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Agreed. Not quite a 9. Still good, just missing some essentials.

 

In my opinion COD 4 single player sucked more than Crysis single player. What kind of purposes you fulfilled in COD 4? Defend the Abrams, rescue Nikolai, Fight off mercenaries with McMillan till rescue helicopter comes!!! Sorry but I don't view them as acts of purposes.

 

Fight Terrorists? stop the nukes? sounds better than Crysis's story XD