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    Final Fantasy???

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by deedeeman, Sep 4, 2006.

  1. deedeeman

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    Hi guys!
    i've heard alot about these games called "Final Fantasy". I know there are alot of games that have that title in em...like Final Fantasy VII, VIII etc....

    can anybody explain what these games are....and which ones are the good ones???
     
  2. sumo

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    it depends what your looking for.
    the older ones, like VII upto X, are normal rpg type games, but XI is a purely online rpg with total freedom.
     
  3. Darrick

    Darrick Notebook Deity NBR Reviewer

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    They're RPG games, I personally like VII the best, IX seems ok, but I absolutely hated VIII ... haven't played X and XI yet...
     
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    Omg FF 1-3 on the old, brick sized gameboy. I remember playing those so long ago, but they were so so good.
     
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    Yup, IX for Playstation was great
     
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    IF you want to play them on your PC then all you need is an emulator and a game ROM / ISO. If you want to try out the Playstation versions (7 is probably your best bet out of all of them) then you can use a standard PSX game disc in conjunction with your emulator so you don't have to do anything illegal.
     
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    I have play both FF 7, and 8. I have FF 9, but I never got chance to played it. FF is basically loooong RPG.

    JC
     
  8. deedeeman

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    How exactly do i do that?
    take a Ps2 or Ps3 CD and pop it in my notebook?
     
  9. coriolis

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    The first one you have to play is FF3, it'd a revolutionary game!

    Then start working your way up, skip FF8(My opinion heh), as well as FF11(It's a MMORPG...).

    Mind you, every FF series is unique...
     
  10. deedeeman

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    whats so bad about FF8?
     
  11. Reize

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    The Final Fantasy series is the title that brought fame to RPGs in America to a completely new level with FFVII, expressing emotion in a game on a level that had never been seen before. A lot of people hail FFVII to be the best RPG of all time, but I disagree, though see why they might think this. Everyone's entitled to their own opinion.

    The Final Fantasies, aside from XI, XII, VII: Dirge of Cerberus, Tactics and Tactics Advanced (I know I probably missed some) are all traditional turn based RPGs, some using the tride and true ATB system where your chance to attack or use a skillis based on a bar generally on the right hand of the screen, when it fills up the character whose bar filled up can act, some moves may make this bar take longer or shorter to fill, as well as some equipment. Some also use the, I have no name for it so I'll make one up, Picture Face on Right Precognitive ability, which allows you to see way ahead of time how the order of turns goes and doesn't rush you in any way. You basically have a column of icons on the right-hand side with each icon havng either a party members face or a symbol meaning a monster's turn. This was used in Final Fantasy X and X-2, and only those as far as I know.

    Pretty much all of the FF games are very good in their own right, generally all games released by Square, Squaresoft or SquareEnix (same company, different titles, aside from the last in which they merged with Enix so it's not totally the same company) are above average at least. I whole-heartedly recommend looking into the series, and other serieses of theirs if you're into that sort of thing, if not, then I guess they're not for you, but if you're still curious, it wouldn't be a horrible idea to give one a try, FFX is considered to be the very easiest one of the bunch, so maybe starting on it would be best, eachand every one has a totally different storyline (aside from X-2, which is the sequal to X), so completing them in order is by no means a necessity.

    Square also made and produced some great games of other genres that I believe are all good in their own right, all the ones I've played anyway, aside from Grandia III, I hated that game, the storyline being its main downfall.

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    As for FF8, it's a good game, but some don't like the simplicity of it, you essentially can win everything by summoning, but I play FF games mainly for their storyline, so, that didn't matter much to me, I liked FF8, I liked all the ones I've played.
     
  12. deedeeman

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    Since the only FF game i can find for PC is FFVII and VIII, i think i'll buy those
     
  13. Reize

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    If you like them I'm quite sure you'll like the rest, as well as some of the other serieses SE has, such as Kingdom Hearts.
     
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    Another SE series, Star Ocean was a series I always enjoyed, because it's so fast paced, its not time base, pretty much whoever attacks first and attacks the hardest!

    Star Ocean 3 on the PS2 is a must play IMO :)
     
  15. deedeeman

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    I dont have any PS. not even PS1 :(


    BTW.....WHICH FF GAME HAS THE BEST STORYLINE??
     
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    coriolis Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    The PS2 is pretty cheap nowadays, you can get a brand new one for under $100 USD, or buy a used one for even less!
     
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    FF X-2 is a game of dressup! :p
    FFX was pretty good... I was just pissed when I watched mym friend beat it with Yuna's ultimate weapon with all upgrades... it was a joke... sooo easy...

    FFVII is a prefectly good game!
    And VII rocked too.
     
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    My problem with FFVIII was with the menu choices... I just wanted to turn on the computer thingy, not have some stupid commentary on how much something or other "sucks"... Well, that and that it was a pretty weak pc port, and I had lots of trouble with video and things. I don't think I ever played more than 15 minutes of it. heheh :)

    I do play and love FFXI though. Remember enjoying FFVII until I forgot to finish playing it then formatted my hdd <_<;; (similiar experience with FFVI... I actually finished FFIV. that was fun too.)
     
  19. zicky

    zicky Notebook Evangelist

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    This is a breakdown on all FF so bare with me if I miss any details:

    Final Fantasy (NES/PS/GBA): You start in the city of Coneria (old name) with 4 adventurers each carrying a crystal and your first quest is to save princess Sara from the once loyal knight Garland. You determine their class and names from the beginning. It's turn-based though the later versions feature ATB. Original version is rather hard to play with clunky menus. PS (name FF Origins) still retains difficulty and overhauls graphics and music. GBA is a toned down version of just pressing the confirmation button but it also features 4 new dungeons modeled after future FF (3-6) where bosses from those FF are featured. Classes can also be upgraded by an optional quest (rather necessary actually) and it also marks the debut of the all powerful optional boss who happens to be more powerful than the final boss though this staple became permanent after VII (though V featured 2 of these but it wasn't released in the states till after VII). This is the start of the series and it's not as revolutionary now as it was back then. It's known that its name derives from the fact that it was going to be the last game created by the then known company Squaresoft before filing for bankruptcy. It also was going to be the last game for its creator, Hironobu Sakaguchi (co-founder of Squaresoft and responsible for the series as a whole).

    Final Fantasy II (NES/PS/GBA): You start running away from the soldiers that are attacking the city where the 4 of you live and are ambushed and badly hurt and left for death. The wizard Myu (sp?) finds you and brings all of you to the Rebel HQ and you are brought back to life. You have four characters (you start out with 3 actually). Fionel, Maria, Guy and Lionheart. Lionheart is missing and the 3 of you are set in finding him and you're thrown into the battle by aiding Princess Hilda. This FF was revolutionary because it actually had a plot where feelings of the characters mattered. Several other characters joined forces with you and a few of them died along the way (which became a trademark on later FF). The battle is still turned based but later versions are ATB. It also marks the debut of several Square mascots and trademarks of the FF series (Chocobos, airships, a guy named Cid, debut of some weapons and spells like Ultima). Normally overlooked for FF fans because of the distinct level up system where you don't get exp but rather points for skills, ie, you get hit a lot so your stamina and max HP go higher, you use white magic a lot, so you level up Spirit and max MP, you use black magic instead so you level up Intelligence and max MP and so on.

    Final Fantasy III (NES/NDS): The only FF never realized in the States. It will be released on the NDS this November. Features yet another system. The so popular Job system. You get to look for the four elemental crystals each gives you access to a varity of different jobs (Fighter, Monk, Ninja, Summoner, etc). This also marks the debut of summons and the ones featured here become recurrent in almost every FF to follow (Chocobo, Shiva, Ifrit, Ramuh, Titan, Odin, Leviathan and Bahamut) and also the debut of moogles. This is a throwback to the original FF as its storyline doesn't involve complex personality traits as the second one did, but the NDS remake is said to give the characters an actual personality.

    Final Fantasy IV (SNES/PS/GBA): The first FF for the SNES, it features the ATB system which became prevalecent for almost all of the future FF. Still based on a class system though you don't get to choose them. The party consists of 5 people instead of the then traditional four (and now normal three). It marks the debut of new classes such as Bard and Dragoon (FFXI AF armor is modeled after FF4's dragoon armor). The storyline revolves around a core few three or four characters who are in conflict with each other and are helped by the other characters (the dragoon actually switches sides quite often but it's because of mind control). Summons, chocobos, death of a character are featured again in this FF. This also marks the continuation that every main FF (except XI) has a storyline where the characters emotions play a large role hence making a connection to the player (which is one of the main reasons FF are highly regarded). FFIV is also one of the easier FF to date and unfortunately, future FF followed this trend. The main character is Cecil (Dark Knight) who after decimating a village of defenseless mages questions his king's intentions and is demoted and sent to deliver a package to a village of summoners which happened to be a bomb that activated once he got into the village wiping all the summoner but one little girl. Seeing how his kind and adoptive father has toyed with him, he takes the summoner girl and looks for a way to correct what was wrong.

    Final Fantasy V (SNES/PS/GBA): Another take to the Job system with more new jobs. Debut of Blue Mage, Time Mage and Mimic class (and others). The story revolves around 5 characters (the 5th one substitutes one of the first four). Butz (Bartz) is a youth riding on his chocobo Boco when a meteorite falls near the kingdom of Tycoon so he goes investigate where he find the amnesiac old ma Galuf. He also finds the princess of Tycoon, Leena (Reina) who came looking for the meteorite after his father left the kingdom prophetising a new calamity is about to arrive. So together with the help of the leader of the pirates, Faris (who follows them for personal reasons) go about the world looking for the King of Tycoon. It features two optional bosses which can only be taken down by proper planning and leveling up the appropiate skills and having the necessary equipment.

    Final Fantasy VI (SNES/PS/GBA): Widely considered to be the best of the FF series (though many think VII is the better, they agree that VI is one of the best). First game to actually feature an opera. No actual main character in the game though the focus at the beginning is on one character but by middle game, it shifts to another and by 3/4 game it no longer has a main character, though most agree that the main character(s) are the two female leads. This features the Esper system where your attributes only level up when you have a certain Magicite equipped. It also features the biggest roll up of playable character in all FF, up to 14 characters can be recruited (even the moogle Mog) which all of them have their revolving storyline (save Umaro and Gogo since they're more like optional). This is the last of the old school FF since VII marks a departure of that. It's also to note that this is the last FF where Yoshitaka Amano (one of the original "creators" behind it) participated in the Character Illustration for Square though he designes the portrait for every FF box still now. It was also controversial at the time because it depicted one of the first (to me it was the first time though) games to portray an actual suicide scene.


    This is a rather long post. I'll continue with the later ones afterwards. You can play all of them through emulation save X or above since they can only play on PS2 at the moment. I dont' recommend buying the PC versions since new hardware doesnt work well with them, specially VII since you require a XP patch.
     
  20. Pitabred

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    Well, all of them are pretty easy to actually "beat". It's the side-quests like the Weapons in FFVII and the Monster Arena in FFX that make it really hard. That's when you really need the ultimate weapons (those are the only two in the series that I've spend significant time on. I've played at least a few hours on most of the others, though).
     
  21. anubissx

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    Play FFVII, it so good and it's so old I doubt it will run anymore
    It has the best story line so far, the best though you must read all dialog and think about it to see its beauty
    FFVIII is not that bad, but because it is released after FFVII,which is a very good game, plus FF8 is so sentimetal, so much love story in it and the story is predictable
    That two game is for PC. I highly recommend FF7,the story will made you cry or feel very sad at least >>> PLAY IT.
    FFX is the come back after FF8 and FF9, play it also if you can on the PS2
    The other FF1 to FF6 is optional.
    Now here is the sad truth, the company milk the frachise to much they made some game extremely bad in the name of FF. The worst is FF7 :Dirge of Cerberus dont play this game, it bad, very bad. FFX-2 is so so, medium, just like FF8 with love sick, love story, love ... it also the 1st sequence of a FF game (before that every FF game is seperate) but now we have FF7 : DOC and FF7: Crisis Core. Squaresoft is running of idea.
    So, in short, play FF7 and you see if you like it or not.
     
  22. zicky

    zicky Notebook Evangelist

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    Back to my ranting.

    Final Fantasy VII (PS/PC): This is considered to be the pinnacle of RPGs in general. It's widely regarded as the best of the series (most will say because of fanboyism since VI has an equally impressive storyline but lesser graphics). This game also by itself separated two periods of RPG: Old school - New school. Before this game came, RPGs were thought as the nerds of the game community, but afterwards, RPGs were regarded as the popular athletic jock (in game community). It's set on a sci-fi world which was unusual at the time. It features pre-rendered background and cinematic cut-scenes which are somewhat inconsistent since sometimes the character looks anime and in others look more like a real person would (not as good as in VIII or later). Some complain about the fact that there's no distinction between the characters classes but equipment and limit breaks since every one can cast whatever spell they want, be a tank and be a melee because of the materia system. It also features the now trademark "weapon" type monsters which usually are optional and require a whole deal of preparations to defeat (Emerald and Ruby Weapon). It also has few (Sephiroth, Aeris, etc) of the most known and remembered characters and villains in videogame history. It was one of the first games to incorporate a full orchestrated song (One Winged Angel) as the main villain and final battle song. It also introduced the Limit Break which is a special attack you unlock once a certain bar becomes full, you fill the bar by getting hit by monsters and these attacks are usually devastating (VI had Desperation attacks which were then overlooked because you don't activate them, it's randomly activated when you're critical and instead of a normal attack, your character will use it's Desperation attack). This game is so cherished it spawned a sequel in the form of a movie in 2005 (FFVII: Advent Children) which is more of a tribute to those that loved this game and the rest of the FFVII Compilation which are sequels to the original game. This game also has a complex storyline with some jungian/judaism thrown in the mix (Sephiroth = plural of sephirae and refers to the 10 levels of conscience of the human being .. this is found in judaism and the name Tifa comes from Tipharet, one of the sephiraes) and the japanese counterpart is known to promote Xenogears (another game with heavier connotations from Jung psychology and judaism traits. Avoid the PC version, it has many bugs, it's not meant to be run on a laptop, you need to find different patches and there's even a virus known as a FF7 patch. One thing to note is that there's a mod for this game that enhaces its graphics, they actually get to have hands! (PC only). It also marked the debut of Tetsuya Nomura as character illustrator and he's been involved in almost every Square game made afterwards whether as character illustrator or director.

    Final Fantasy VIII (PS/PC): The best selling FF game of all time. It sold over 3.6 million alone in Japan. It's graphics were so innovative that it blew VII away. Features one of the best intros of all time. But like it has been previously stated, the game has been considered to be all-candy. The story revolves around love and as such, around two characters. The other characters seem more like fill up since you never find out much about their background except few bits that relate them to each other in one way or another. Summons make a comeback however their animations last several seconds (from 15 sec to 1:30 for the most powerful one) which you can't skip in any way.The PC version will run on today's laptops but they need to run on software mode since the 6xxx series above discontinued the use of 8-bit palettes which are needed so you won't get black blocks in the game. Also the quality of the music in PC is midi and not as good as PS version. One thing to note is that this game put videogame music into mainstream as it featured a full vocal theme song that won an award in Asia and it was the first videogame track to do that.

    Final Fantasy IX (PS): The last of the FF created by its original creator and as such, it went back to its roots. It's considered to be a tribute to the series as a whole since there are many references to its previous inceptions. Characters from old come back here in a different way and some of them are even playable. It also departed from the more realistic look that VII and VIII had by favoring an anime look. It also has one of the most remembered characters: Vivi, a black mage who questions his own existence. This game wasn't well recieved by many people reflecting that it sold 2.8 millions making it the first of the FF to not oversell its predecessor. It features a class system similar to IV as you can't choose your character's classes.

    Final Fantasy X (PS2): The first FF to feature full vocal acting. It was well recieved (despite selling around 2.6 millions) and featured full 3D environments. Some say it's called X cause that's the only button you have to hit to finish the game. It's aesthetically different from the previous ones since it's a blend of sci-fi and traditional japanese atmosphere. It has several cut-scenes more so than the previous ones and even a higher degree of detail due to the power of PS2. It features a system called CTB where you can see every character's actions before time and involves a more strategic approach, you can also change to any character in any moment.

    Final Fantasy X-2: The first official sequel to a FF game. It continues 2 years after X and the story revolves around two characters from the previous one and a new character. It's another love story but not as focused as VIII's. It features a Dressup system which consists on finding a sphere that gives you access to a class. You can change classes in mid-fight. The full ending can only be unlocked by completing ~95% of the game which can only be done with the New Game+ option (it first featured in Chrono Trigger, it lets you take a saved game and start over with levels and most items from it). One of the most obvious attempts to milk the FF franchise name.

    Final Fantasy XI (PS2/PC/360): MMORPG. Very difficult as many skills are needed to survive and you definitely need help to finish it. It has a $12.95 monthly fee but it's well protected from hackers and exploiters. Completely different from previous ones. IMO it shouldn't be considered as one of the main franchise.

    Final Fantasy XII (PS2): Set to release in Halloween in the States, a demo disc was given away with the purchase of DQ8 and it features a battle system different from any previous FF. This system is similar to FFXI as it's in real time but it has been considered to be a rip off from KOTOR's by some.

    Final Fantasy XIII (PS3/Mobile): Not much is known at the moment except that it's actually three games set in different worlds with some relation between each one. Not much is known at the time since most it's only speculation. It's also known as Fabula Nova Crystallis.

    Others: There are many other FF games but those are only by name: FF Legends for the original GB, FF: Mystic Quest for SNES, FF Adventure for GB, FF Chronicles for Gamecube and FF Tactics for PS. None of them have any relation to the series save the name. Except for Tactics which generated a small cult fan base and it spawned a sequel on GBA and also the world of FFXII has the same name as the continent where Tactics is developed and is also developed by most of the people that worked on Tactics. Another important thing to note is that Vagrant Story (another game developed by the same people of Tactics) is set in the same world as Tactics but in a different land. So as you can see FF Tactics (PS version) is another great game to get.
     
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    True, but I mean taking out the last two bosses (who before he had the weapons he couldnt even take out Jeccht or whatever his name is) in a few summons is kinda sick! I dunno I guess I haven't really played the rest of that game, but that bit at the end just kinda made me saw WOW LOL!
    And I didn't like X-2 so I kinda took it out a bit on X :)
     
  24. Best Foot Forward

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    Final Fantasy is the greatest series of games to be conceived and produced.
     
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    I have played all FFs (including the ones for the Gameboy and Mystic Quest but excluding the CD-I ones which were not released anywhere other than Holland) and in my opinion FF3 (USA, known as FFVI in Japan) is the best Final Fantasy by a long shot. Everything about the game is excellent (especially if you played it back in 1995, when it was new).
    FFV (never released in USA) featured a very innovative job/class system which can make the game extremely fun to play once you get the hang of it. Everything else was pretty average however.
    FFVII was ok in my opinion. Getting the best weapons (whatever it was called) involved too much grinding for my liking.
    FFVIII was a graphical breakthrough. It also had a very good song by Faye Wong (who is very famous by the way) and involved much less grinding than VII for me as I used the stick the penny on the X button trick to make the PS do all the grinding for me :D. You can achieve the same by putting a heavy object on the X key or whatever key you assign for the PC version.
    I hated FFIX. It was too loli for me. And the main character was an ape. I'm not a great fan of apes.
    FFX was OK. The minigames were fun. The levelling system was annoying.
    FFX-2 was cute in my opinion. Some of the outfits for the girls were hot. There's no denying that.
    FFXI: Get WoW instead. Much better.
     
  26. TwilightVampire

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    Zicky, great posts! I was going to do something similar, but you saved me a LOT of typing :D lol ;)
     
  27. coriolis

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    Don't forget Dirge of Cerberus and Crisis Core, more attempts to milk the FFVII franchise :D
     
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    I'd like to pretend that those games dont exist :p
     
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    ok so ive decided.....im buying FF VIII and VII

    are those wise choices since i dont have Play station?
     
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    Well, as long as they're the PC versions ;)
     
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    ATM there's only VII, VIII and IX for the PC right? I would have also said get X as well but its only on the ps2
     
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    7 and 8 have been officially released for the PC. 9 can be played on the PC using PS Emulators as can the earlier versions using NES/SNES/GB/GBA emulators.
     
  33. zicky

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    Thanks, I'm a Final Fantasy fanboy, lol. Have been playing them one way or another since I got my hands on the first one in 1990. Lol, I even know the dialogues by heart on most of them. I'm one of those that actually like RPGs because of storyline instead of pretty graphics, so I wasn't drawn in by FF7 until much later.

    You can play the others via emulation as long as you buy the PS Cds, I don't see how it would be wrong. You will see a strong difference between the both of them. FF7 ambience is more gothic-futuristic dark setting while FF8 is much warmer/brighter than the other but still retains a bit of dark colors. I would recommend you to get FFVI which can be found as FF Anthologies for the PS, which you can find for $20 on amazon. As I said earlier, PC versions are poor ports and you have to go way out of your way to make them work properly, so find the PS versions and a cheap PS2 (or PS emulator which are free).
     
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    As Zicky said, the PC version of VII is pretty dated, and you'll have some trouble getting it to run under Windows XP unless you patch it. I did that a few years ago, and even then it didn't run perfectly. Still, it's a good game to get introduced to the FF series on. VIII's battle system is simply infuriating.
     
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    lol, I'm the same way! I've been playing since the 80's though :p
     
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    Oh, don't get me wrong! I would've started earlier but where I live and in that time, games were hard to come by, specially the then hated RPG genre. I actullay discovered them by mistake when the place I rented had brought new games and when I went, they had rented all of them save one ... then everything started to fall in their place ;)
     
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    ok...so lets say if i buy the PS versions, where can i get the emantulator thingy?
     
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    You can google for them, I don't know if it's allowed here to post a link to them. Mods??
     
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    are they illeageal?
     
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    The use of emulators is not illegal if you own the console and the games you are emulating. Emulating PS games isn't really worth it in my opinion. They will never look as nice as they do on the real console as the resolution on computer screens are too high (much higher than PAL anyway).
     
  41. deedeeman

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    i dont own a console....so that would be illegal :( sooo....looks like i have to buy the PC versions
     
  42. Reize

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    I really think you should buy a PS2, cheap with the largest library of really good games, XBox and GCN have good games too, but at this point PS2 will entertain you longer. Of course PS3 and Wii are coming out in November, so maybe get them.
     
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    FF6 and under were on the SNES and NES. Since they are such a huge leep back in graphics and sound (ff2/4 has one of the best snes tracks ever, even though it sounds like crap compared to todays hardware) that it would be hard to get a FF noob interested enough to play through them for story and gameplay alone.

    FF7 is one of the more memoriable of the series, and IMO a must have. However dont bother with the PC versions as they featured unoptimised code (ff7 ran no faster then the PS1 wich was about 20fps) as well as utilised low resolution textures that are better off using the natural bluring of a tv.

    FF8 was great in all aspects except its fighting engine, namely 2 parts of it. Magic was changed over to a leech system where you literaly grabbed indavidual casts of spells from monsters. This means if you were low on heal spells, you needed to hunt monsters that had the spell and sit there leeching them before you killed them. Of course the monsters faught back causing you to use up said heal spells. Also it featured an overly complex elemental system setup for resist and damage types. The story however was top notch and featured many memoriable characters.

    FF9 is classic final fantasy with the new look the PS1 is able to give it, featuring super deformed characters and armor/spells tied to specific characters instead of letting the user choose who gets to play healer. Everything was top notch about this games and I probably rate it 3rd best, behind FF7 and FF10.

    FF10, great use of PS2 abilities, heck even TODAY you would find the graphics to be impressive still. Excelent characters, good traditional fight system. The sphere system for class/job identifications worked out real well, tieing people to a predifined class at the start but if the player spent enough time, they could alter their path and give characters another class's abiltiies.

    FF 10-2, call it what you will, square decided to make a buck off those fans who were starving for a new single player final fantasy since FF11 wasn't really the same as a traditional single player FF game. What we ended up getting was a sequil that featured a well constructed but shorter story line then FF10 but arguably the best battle system of any final fantasy game to date. Aside from some great eye candy, seperating classes and their spells into dress spheres that can only be in use one at a time, but equipeable by everyone gives the user a freedome of class choice like no other Final fantasy game, but the difficulty of not having access to all your spells from other classes even if you have unlocked them.

    I found FF10-2's battle system so enjoyable, that I used my gameshark to make it so each battle featured mobs in overdrive mode (turns them into super mobs that cast even more powerfull spells and attacks) so I could fight even more difficult mobs (and get even more AP to unlock the spells on all the rare spheres I picked up).

    I dont know a whole lot about FF12, but some rescent gameplay footage I saw made it seem like Square is attempting the single player MMORPG look, much like .hack//sign, and I guess KOTR. That is, you run around in a 3rd person follow the leader camera style both in the field and in towns. Fights are initiated like MMORPGs by running up and attacking. Your party members are AI controled, though you can relay specific commands if need, or tell the computer if it should play defensivly or offensivly. Cities you run around and explore, and if anyone has anything to say to you, a chat icon hovers over their head when you get close.

    My suggestion to the first timer, buy a used PS1, and get FF7-9 for it and just play it on the tv. Dont mess with PC versions of 7 and 8.

    If you dig it, buy a PS2 (no emu for ps2 games anyways) and you can get both 10 and 10-2 for under 20 bucks. Youll also beable to get FF12 by the end of the month.
     
  44. deedeeman

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    where can i buy a cheap PS2 console>?
     
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    Amazon or beay, honestly you could get one from your local game store cheap too.
     
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    I suggest you get a PS2, it very cheap now and you can play any FF game you want PLUS tons of very good game like Resident Evil 4, Devil may cry and FF7 on a PS2.
    I would like to forget the PS3, i mean $500 for a console, Sony is over confident, we are in an economic crysis, plus new console dont have good game. Wait a year for price drop, bug fixed, and new good game is my plan.
    In short, buy a PS2, you can play for 3 year at least (mine been play for 5 year) :)
     
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    An emulator isnt illegal. Its the games themselves that raise issues. As long as you own a copy of the game it is legal to possess an ISO file of the original game.

    Of course this doesnt really stop a lot of people :rolleyes:
     
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    oops..compleatly forgot that the PS2 can play PS1 games.
     
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    im not even sure if the pc version of FF7 and FF8 even worked on newer PCs. i have both game on playstation but i wanted to try ff7 and 8 on the pc, but i can never get it to look "normal" like the ps1 version, this just completely pisses me off because i'm pretty sure that the two games dont support newer vid cards to perfectly run the game.
     
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    FF8 works fine on my Asus. FF7 required me to install a few patches. Now it works fine as well. I personally think that FF8 looks better on the PC than it does on TV, due to the higher resolution which is supported in the PC version.
     
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