Final Fantasy VII Remake

Well it's official, the most hyped/loved game of the 90s is being remade. Has anyone played the original all those years ago? Even grown up with it perhaps? How do you feel about this remake? Are you anywhere near as excited as these guys?



I never played FFVII back in the day. When I attempted my first play through of it a few years back on an actual PS1 , somehow the console got misplaced with CD#1 and my memory card in it haha. I'll probably look into this version to see what all the fuss was about.

 

Ooh.. I played it... (On PC).. And I am psyched.. Best E3 I can remember..

 

This was my first great game. It's why I started playing video games. I think I put in over 120+ hours playing the hell out of it. Oh, how I abused my old PS1, and my game shark. I would play the remake, but not if I had to buy a PS4, at this point it's PC gaming only for me. If it were emulated to the PC-HELL YEAH

 

Next-gen 720p @ 30 FPS

Top kek

 

I do wonder what they will end up shaving off of the game. FF7 was filled with a lot of content, sidequests and random silly/funny things.

 

Yes, there were a lot of side quests, not to mention the breeding of those chocobs. Needed to breed a black one to get to an otherwise inaccessible special gem.-ahh good times. Except for the needed side quests a lot of them could be eliminated.

 

So it's more demanding than TW3? Or less optimized?

 

Nomura (director of FF7 Remake/Kingdom Hearts) stated in the interview that the story may deviate from the original. There will be changes.

 

Not my favorite FF by far, but I collect and play all of them so yes, I'm interested.

 

It's "first on PS4" so you can bet it will at LEAST come on X1... I bet it will come to PC too however, as Square has finally realized people want to buy the crap out of their games on PC (if they're coded right).

 

Which they have been for like the last 4 years

 

You obviously haven't seen FF XIII and XIII-2. Need I remind you that on launch if you hit "alt + F4" it'd ask you to quit but if you hit "esc" it would instantly shut off the game as if you'd alt + F4'd any other game? Believe me, they're not too good with porting. They're good with direct coding; Just Cause 2 was fantastically done, as was Deus Ex. But those are games that have always been on PC, unlike their "console exclusive-now-turned-PC-games" games.

 

I'm referring to the Western AAA's published by SE, not the JRPG's and other Eastern titles they developed in-house which I have no knowledge of. Games like DX:HR, Sleeping Dogs, Hitman: Absolution, Tomb Raider, and Thief (all ported by Nixxes except SD) had very well done PC versions.

 

Oh I definitely agree. They do pretty good PC games. I simply hope it carries over into their japanese games.

 

Seriously? This is actually happening? They couldn't manage to get FF Type-0 published on the psp outside Japan. But they're happily spending time on this...?

 

Yes. Because they're "getting old".

 

Which reminds me, time to play type 0, just finishing bloodborne. FF7 remake is something I am very much looking forward to, but it's still ways off.

... A Xenogears remake would drive me crazy though.

 

Whereas TR, SD, and HA were very good ports, DEHR was kind of a turd in both looks and performance wise for me. Mouse movement was also crappy, even after doing that that registry fix thingy, and unfortunately Director's Cut didn't fix it...
But yeah, otherwise SE had some nice AAA ports, especially TR. It truly should be considered a poster child for modern PC ports. Great performance, multi-GPU scaling, controls, etc. - hands down one of the best ports out there!

 

Yeah Human Revolution had a great art style (I had no problem with the piss filter) and interior design but graphics were definitely a mixed bag. On one hand tessellation, on the other hand skyboxes straight out of HL1 LOL. But it ran fantastic for me, probably the smoothest game I've played in the last few years. Low CPU usage, perfect SLI scaling, and minimum FPS above 60 when maxed out.

Oh if you played HR on your laptop, it was running in DX9 since the game lacks a DX10 path. Perf and gfx both improve somewhat in DX11.

 

...Well, this game has been released so many times that SquareEnix sounds like some old guy in a nursing home, telling the same story over and over again every time someone bumps into them. But still..

Well, or a spinoff in 3d, for example. That.. you know.. didn't come out EXCLUSIVELY FOR THE WII >_<

 

The game has only been released like twice. It came out for PS1 and PC in 1997/1998, then it came out on PSN in 2009, then it was packaged (unchanged, I might add) into a launcher and released for PC *AGAIN* (did I mention unchanged except for am added launcher?) and now it's actually getting a proper remaking. Since the only real work they did on this or FF8 for PC was the added launcher, I can't see it as a "re-release" of any kind, so I can only count the original launches and whatever they did with it for PSN in ~2009.

 

I guess you're right. Seems to me that any amount of script-writers would be able to make a new story in the ff7 universe, though. Along with new mechanics of some sort - turn-based with real-time elements.. maybe? Something like Resonance of Fate, or Xenoblade.

I don't know - it just seems like a curious way to spend resources. A good PC version of ff7 that ran the original, with better particle effects and improved models - might be an idea. But you can only go so far with that if you're not also updating.. animation, removing the entire 2d background with 3d models concept, rework the entire thing. So it's essentially going to be a production on the size of a new game anyway, right..?

 

I'm betting they'll be cashing on the nostalgia and a generation of players who never played the original.

Personally, I got it on PSN back in 2009, but could never get into it. The game mechanics and graphics were rather outdated and didn't help the immersion for me. The random encounters that you can't avoid were a big part of what threw me off, so if it simply ends up being a graphical remake, I'll probably have difficulty getting immersed in the game world anyways.

@nipsen, I agree, aside from the story/writing, it'll likely be a new game from the ground up, it's not like they can reuse the assets from the original. They could always reuse the game engine (or parts of) from FFXV or some such, but the rest will have to be remade from the ground up.

 

One of my favorite RPGs of all time... Bought a Voodoo Banshee so I could play it in 640x480... Been waiting for this remake and I'm totally stoked.

 

Can't say how that kind of mix would work. All I know is that FF7's ATB wasn't very good, compared to FF8 and especially to X-2 (which are the only other FF games with ATB I've played). XII and XIII don't really have ATB or control the same way, so I can't compare those. I CAN say if it comes out playing anything like FF XII or XIII I'll be sorely disappointed.

It seems so, until you realize that FF7 literally has so much hype that you could probably buy knockoff rolex watches, paint them FF7 themed, and sell them for 5x the amount XD.

That's an understatement. It's hyped as the best everything ever forever (falsely so) and that hype train is a powerful thing. The question is if they'll actually bring it up to speed with more modern titles in the things it lacked.

This is the problem. From an unbiased standpoint, the game itself is sub-par. The mechanics are stiff and render some of its abilities etc near-useless (like barrier and shell having a small timer of effectiveness, for example). Its minigames' movements (like the chocobo race or the bike racing in Gold Saucer) are really clunky too. It really didn't age well (not as well as FF8, I can attest to that; I played both back to back last year for a while) and while its story could be great, I'd rather it gets a full remake and is basically done well.

On the other hand, I'd love a proper remaster of FF8 for PC. The current version (as I did point out earlier) is a flat 90's port, and battles run at 15fps and overworld etc runs at 30 and I'd really like if it was a lot smoother and probably looked a bit better. Scaled for widescreen would be nice too.

 

To be fair, it was a product of its time and like pretty much every game on the first gen of consoles pushing 3D graphics, it's normal for it to not have aged well visually. Now gameplay wise, it's a product of its time as well and in a genre that has evolved over the years.

I notices something similar as well with Tales of Symphonia and the more recent titles in the series game mechanics wise to a lesser extent (Symphonia is mroe recent than FF VII after all).

Anyways, back on topic, I'm hopeful that they'll bring some amount of modern mechanics into the game and not simply a fresh coat of paint.

 

I didn't mean visuals. I don't really care how a game looks. I mean, I like eye candy, don't get me wrong, but I'd never not play a game because it had old graphics.
On the other hand, it was sort of an "early adopter" type game, which is probably why it didn't age so well. FF8 is not much different in regards to basic gameplay, but that I found aged a lot better, for example.

 

Wow you have to be kidding me? 7 set the benchmark for all JRPGs to follow and the junction system on 8.... Really? Let me just buy my materia and go to town with MP. And the last fight in 8? Give me a break. Sephiroth was so much harder... Unless you used a patch to bring Aeris back (ironically)... Without spoiling anything, Sephiroth was a whole lot more difficult, especially if you had Selphie in 8... The battle system was annoying... Even on wait mode you got attacked... Trying to dig through to find KoTR... But the replay value of 7 is, for me, above any non-SNES JRPGs...

And when you compare our world to their imagination....... There's no contest with 7.

 

Yes, 7 set the benchmark, but I think that you're feeling so amazingly about it because you played it and it was amazing and new etc at the time. Rather than someone like me who played FFX first, then played FFX-2, then played FFXII, then played FF8 and then FF7. Well into the late 2000s is where I started those older FF games, using my PS2's backward compatibility. I'm not saying that FF7 was a bad game; I'm saying that it isn't the best. It's like saying CoD 4 is the best because it was such a change from CoD 1 and 2 (and FPS games in general at the time; to my memory) and paved the way for the ones I like like Black Ops 1 and 2, or MW2, etc etc. It's not that CoD 4 is bad, it's that CoD 4 isn't the best. It was ahead of its time, probably, but it doesn't mean it holds up now, whereas I find say... Black Ops 1 holds up a lot better now (and it's been out for almost 5 years at this point).

I do agree on FF8's end boss, however I was talking gameplay rather than story. I also have never gotten a battle while standing still, and I've been known to leave various FF games on while I go do something else for a couple hours. I'd have come back to many a game wipe if that was the case. That goes for ALL FF games I've played, mind you. 7, 8, 10, 10-2, 12 and 13 (though 12 and 13 really require you to touch monsters to battle).

 

Okay knowing the full story... I understand how you don't value FF VII the same way I do. I mean I bought a 3dfx Voodoo Banshee so I could play the game in 640x480 Glide instead of 320x240 software. That's dedication (although that Banshee made Unreal look amazing too)... Honestly I hate the cinematic direction Squeenix has gone... Its like you play an interactive movie now... And that started with 8 and has just gotten worse... The best ones are the SNES games. Square never did better...

 

I appreciate both sides for the most part; I'm a sucker for JRPGs. I can't stand FF13 though. It's so... ugh. You have such little chance to play. The paradigm shift is terrible. FF12 was MUCH better with its gambit system. I just like good games. If they improve FF7 but keep the basic system I'll be happy.

 

Well have you played Episode Duscae FF XV? Squeenix took an entirely different direction... Its a massive open world with a lot to do, there are no random encounters (you have a red bar that appears on the screen, you have until that bar fills up to avoid the fight), its an active fighting system... Kind of like Kingdom Hearts but much more refined, and when you get knocked unconscious you can summon Ramuh which is the absolute most incredible summon in the history of Final fantasy. If they build VII on that engine... Its going to be a real treat.

 

I don't have a console, so I couldn't play Episode Duscae. I saw some of it. I don't mind a KH type of battle, as long as I can set my allies to do things. FF12-style gambit systems were great, and I could swap characters if I felt like it (as far as I remember, at least) or take over people if yours got K.O.'d.

That being said, I am interested to see what it turns out to be, but it's not a burning desire of any kind.

 

You make me want to play 12 now... From where I got before I had to sell my console and games, I was in that building... The first real puzzle in the game... And cursing my way through it because unlike most, it was actually a challenge and if you screwed up you ended in a fight.

 

I don't remember that one. I just remember I got to end game but never beat it. I got obsessed with Zodiark because I found Zodiark WAY earlier than I was supposed to and he had a bug that made him invincible when he was on his last bar of health.

 

Sounds like AMD and HTC XD