Finally, Comparison between Nvidia GTX 480M & Mobility HD5870

Performance....

 

That's because you went the extreme config, a 980X D900F will have an higher performance CPU wise compared the desktop you built. It's just like slamming together a desktop with 980X with some weak mid end GPU, then build another one with an i5 + 480 GTX, then saying that the i5 has higher gaming performance at a lower price. Compare apple with apple please.

If you would just have a 930, which still won't be cheap if you would to put the same into a desktop with a X58 motherboard. It cost less than 3k for the D900F with 930 and 480M. Of course the desktop would be cheaper, but it won't be so much of an extreme as you put it, and no one carries a desktop + monitor + keyboard + mouse around.

 

The warning signs on the 480gtx gpu surely causes us to wonder. can that thing really melt your hand if you touch it.

 

It think it'll burn it

Yet I think it is better to wait for real benchmarks (graphics, heat output, etc.) on market models.

 

yes but even with a 980X u can get a desktop for $1500 without monitor..

 

But he said $1200, not $1500.

 

And the notebook will still perform better than your desktop by infinite times, because your desktop don't even have a freaking monitor to output anything.

Oh, and please do tell me how to build the desktop with intel 980X for less than 1500 please. Since the 980X cost 1000 dollars, how are you going to get the X58 motherboard + GPU + Powersupply + Casing for $500.

 

I think what he meant was you can build a desktop that will peform as well as the laptop for $1200.00 .. It certainly will not have a 980 in it though ...

 

10char10char.

 

Yeah i was speaking of Ziddys comment not sean473s ...

 

Yes, we already knew that. That's why I said it's because of the premium of the 980X, if you went the base config of i7 930 + 480M, it will cost less than 3k. And a desktop with i7 930 + X58 + 465 GTX and everything including monitor etc won't be cheap either. You are paying a premium for the convenience and comparative mobility of a notebook, but the premium is not as extreme as put out to be.

 

Yes comparing Laptops to Desktops has always been pointless even a decent desktop is going to run you a fair amount of coin...

The 480mGTX will have its day soon enough and will either turn out to be amazing and beyond some peoples expectations or not...

I myself am anxious to see it regardless if i feel its overpriced or not .... I have paid massive cash for desktop and mobile GPUs in the past so its nothing new to me but that was the past and prices were expected to fall when ATI entered the game with there mobile gaming GPUs and it did for sometime force Nvidia to lower there prices.... Just not this time...

I spent $600 on a 7900GTX for my XPS 1710 back when Nvidia was king and thats all there was ....

 

Normally yes. But the laptops with GTX 480M will not be very mobile and used essentially as a desktop. That's why I made the comparison, at that cost and considering the bulk, and zero battery life or ability to use on your lap without burning your crotch....
- What's the point and just build a desktop with Phenom II X4+HD5770 overclocked and will get better performance... and that can be had very cheap, no water cooling etc required to overclock both CPU/GPU to hell.

 

Yes there is a point when a laptop can hardly be called a laptop BUT you cant so easily pack up a desktop and move it around so it will never be equal ...

You could build a MicroATX case PC and Bolt on a screen though and that might be a little closer but still not equal...

They all have there purpose even if the pricing or practicality of it might not be inline with your ideals...

I have had some Honkin laptops like the W90 and the 2 M17xs i owned and none of them were great on the lap thats for sure lol...

 

Sigh... There's nothing much more to say if you can't differentiate between a desktop and a heavy notebook, or if you never thought of having a situation where you will need one, but there are people who do. eg, those who travel a lot, stay at one location for maybe a few hours or days with power point, and need the power, like some working adults that needs the power at their office and at home, and actually have a car so weight of the notebook is no issue. However, you can't expect them to stuff a desktop into their car everyday, and carry/setup it at office and back at home right?

Moreover, the D900F is built mainly for CPU power as well, that's why the X58 architecture, then you tell me you are going to use a phenom x4 which is even slower than an i5 on P55/H55? You are thinking performance in terms of pure graphics performance, but performance is more than that.

 

There IS a point at which a "heavy laptop" fades into a desktop.
We had one guy bring in a 25lb "laptop" and the results were comical. He needed help carrying it... Honestly, a well-built Desktop +LCD screen would have been less awkward.

The machine in question is 12lbs+... which while up there, is quite mobile.
Let's face it though... most of the things you would use a normal laptop for, that would NEVER be brought out for. Its just too expensive and has too much graphical oomph for anything else but gaming and has a laughable battery time and cannot use even a fraction of its power while on battery.

At $4000, the price point is beyond ridiculous and makes for a VERY small group of realistic customers. I am sure we could find a few people who could actually use it... but the vast majority of people would be massively stupid to buy it.

For $900-1100 you could get an able-but not godly single-gpu 15" or 17" gaming laptop for travel and a GODLY desktop with the rest!

 

1.It's not 25lb, in fact less than half of that weight.
2.It's still a lot more convenient than a desktop where you have to carry a monitor and keyboard etc.
3.It's only 2.8k not 4k unless you are getting 980X as I've said.
4.I doubt you are ever going to use any gaming notebook on battery for a long time.
5.Separate desktop and notebook brings data synchro issues.
6.Look, now a G73 is already 8.5lb, and a huge thing at that, 3lb more suddenly makes it into a desktop?

 

Kernel never said that. He was just sharing a story about ridiculously large laptops, not implying that 12-ish pounds is desktop category. Which is why he wrote "The machine in question is 12lbs+... which while up there, is quite mobile."

 

Hi see the following review by Tom's Harware for a better comparison between the GTX480M and HD5870 in a Note Book.

Benchmark Results: Crysis : GeForce GTX 480M: AVADirect?s W880CU Is Packing The Heat

The difference is not as big as indicated.

 

The Eternal struggle between Good and Neutral, lol.
Pointless and yet so addictive!

 

Wait WTH.

The 5870 benchmark for dirt 2 in that tomhardware link shows only 32 FPS on 1680x1050 Ultra.

How is this possible? In the default benchmark run I get around 42 FPS on Ultra and 4xAA (same settings as in their benchmark). I've got no OC on my card.

I'm sure it's running in DX11, and every setting is maxed.

In fact, the FPS rarely goes below 35 and stays above 40 most of the time in races as well.

So how did they get 32 FPS?

 

tomshardware score are always low on ati in thier sc2 benches a desktop 5870 scored lower then my dual 4850 and my cpu is like a stone age one compared to the desktop one they had

 

Show me the money! Who wants to pay for the benchmark?