First M300 card tested: R9 M375

Upcoming Lenovo V4000 with Broadwell and R9 M375 tested by zol.com

R9 M375. It says 1024 shaders but I think that is wrong since the 3DMark11 score below is much lower than 7970M with 1280 shaders. But its pretty high clocked I must say!


3DMark11



I found 7870M which is Cape Verde with 640 shaders to check out if R9 M375 is a rebrand and GPU-z gave wrong info about the GPU


3DMark11: 2702


It unfortunately fit the leak I found a month ago
http://wccftech.com/amd-radeon-r5-r7-r9-300-rebrand-mobility-driver-update/

 

It's not like Lenovo aren't notorious for using gimped chips ("GT 555m", which is higher clocked GT 550m, rather than the real-deal), also DDR3?! But yeah, not impressed.

 

Here we go...

 

REbrand... again !
Looks like we aint getting anything new in the mobile market since maxwell ..

 

I will try to update you guys if I find more on other 300 cards. Pretty sure we will see many leaks in the coming days because I think AMD is officially launching them in about a month (Computex)

 

Do remember this laptop has a ULV CPU, which will limit the potential of the dGPU.
Also, it has DDR3, not GDDR5, VRAM. However, if the m375 isn't paired with a full volt CPU and doesn't have GDDR5, I think this is probably about the best it can get.

 

I don`t think a Broadwell 15W CPU will bottleneck the GPU with only 640 shaders and lowering the GPU score.
Not sure about DDR3 vs GDDR5 which the 7870M had though. How much that would impact the score on a synthetic bencmark?

 

You know, when you said 640 shaders, I was thinking about the GTX 860m. Then I realized you meant the m275. Heh heh...
In any case, the m275 is based on the HD 8870m as well, and notebookcheck has a few reviews of laptops with that GPU, one with a ULV CPU and DDR3 VRAM and three, two of which I'll post, with a full volt CPU and GDDR5 VRAM.
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Review-Dell-Inspiron-17R-5737-Notebook.110190.0.html
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Review-Samsung-Series-7-Chronos-770Z5E-S01DE-Notebook.91341.0.html
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Review-Samsung-Series-7-Chronos-770Z7E-Notebook.89376.0.html
Just skimming through it, I think the there are noticeable differences between the set-ups. Unless Lenovo started to use GDDR5, which is unlikely, then that score doesn't seem to phase me if the m375 had 1024 shaders.

 

Yay finally a worthy replacement for my 7970m CF. NOT !

 

Wow what a joke. Like the 4th time this card has been rebranded.

R9 M395X better not be a M295X rebrand.

 

Of course, the nVidia's 8, 9, 1xx (not to mention that it lacked top tier offerings) and 2xx series was a textbook example how to do a rebrand. Start with deffective chip, stretch it through 3-4 years, so no way in hell someone wont end with one and there you go - profit. Why everyone is so tempted to scream rebrand? Especially when it comes from AMD? Blame the very creator. A simple "not impressed", or "I'll rain check it" would do. No? Also tell me how it is not flaming? We do count them with you, I'm not amused by the idea either, but we can do only that much. And with "we" I mean those of us who buy AMD products.

 

This is a 7870M/8870M/R9 M275 rebadge with DDR3 instead of GDDR5. Next!

 

People didn't/don't call out Nvidia?

"We" sure do.

 

Believe it or not this is one of the most brand neutral forums on the interwebs. Or at least, people who are fans of either company are at least not blinded by their loyalty to the extent their cognitive reasoning abilities shut down, and anything that goes against their belief is either summarily dismissed, or the goalposts shifted so as to make their company come out on top. (ok fine we have Link4 and Zymphad, but they're the minority )

 

Definitely Cape Verde, not even close to the score of the Bonaire based FirePro M6100 (5300+), and wth with lenevo using DDR3 memory.

 

Oh man, now I know why I never visit NBR anymore.

I will say if this is an umpteenth rebrand of Picairn, it's another downright embarrassment for AMD.

 

Eh, [H]ard is arguably worse (did you see that AMD earnings call thread? my god did all the braindead fanboys come out of the woodwork for that one). OCN? Yeah it's like monkeys flinging **** at each other and thumping their chests.

 

Cape Verde not Pitcairn. Need to get on NBR more often.

 

Jezus... if it were at least halfway decent, but no. For an upper end GPU a joke. Even the 860m powns this thing by 40% or so...

 

Yeah it has become a running joke at this point. AMD has taken rebranding to epic proportions. 4 generations is unprecedented; even Nvidia only went 3 with G92 on mobile. AMD has abandoned us. It's struggling financially and doesn't see notebook discrete graphics as a high-growth area of its business, so it's not even making an effort to try to compete with Nvidia.

 

So... Anything interesting on AMD desktop front?

 

What thats a bummer. I was really hoping they would release something new that would actually work in the alienware mx 18 r2

 

I cleaned up the thread, if I have to do it again, I am going to issue an infraction to everyone involved. You guys do it way too much. If you can't be adults, you shouldn't post.

 

Quite interesting. AMD will be releasing their new Fiji GPU based on new HDM architecture mid-June. Should be one heckofa performer, likely 30-50% faster than 290x or around a Titan X. Main rumored drawback is it will at least initially be limited to 4GB VRAM. N=1

For laptops, however, it will need to be a cold day in heck before Fiji runs at a laptop-level TDP and thermals so I wouldn't hold my breath -- rumor is it's a 300w GPU.

 

Well... this is interesting.
Graphics

• Card typedual graphics (performance-level graphics card + integrated graphics)
• Graphics chipAMD Radeon R9 M375 + Intel GMA HD 5500
• Memory TypeDDR3
• Memory Interface64bit

http://shop.lenovo.com.cn/promotion/v4000/index.html?intcmp=H20150421_1
You know, just so we can see the laptop.
EDIT: Found this.

Yeah, the reason for the terrible scores is because of its small bandwidth. Lenovo only offers 2 GB of VRAM on the GPU, so either the review Cloudfire posted is on a future config or GPU-Z detected something wrong on the VRAM.
What's more questionable know is the bus width.

 

I like nvidia and most likely i will buy a desktop pc next year.I like mainly nvidia cause of phsyx and some other features which amd doesnt have.Can amd card run phsyx,hbao and some other nvidia features?im really interested in amd cause they will get a huge boost in directx12 compared to nvidia

 

Man... I wished the Lenovo v4000 would feature a 960m instead (yeah I know there is the Y50, but I don't like the looks of it).

 

Or they could at least use Bonaire like in the FirePro M6100 which matches 960M. Cape Verde is low end at this point especially with garbage DDR3 memory.

 

We're screwed. DDR3 vRAM in 2015? FFS....

 

There might be some big news coming our way guys!

Latest news/leak from Korea (was posted yesterday - Cant give out source):

R9 300 series from AMD is manufactured in 20nm

It actually falls in line with the news in October last year that AMD have started making the Xbox One APU in 20nm.
That APU draw about 120-130W so it seems they can make high power in 20nm now. I`m guessing 20nm from GlobalFoundries!

Take it with some salt but the leaker seem to have connection with Zotac and have given people a warning that they will be banned if they post the news elsewhere.

Amazing if true!

That might explain why the GPU-Z read core count wrong and VRAM amount wrong on the M375! Its a different chip!

 

^Uhhh Zotac only makes Nvidia cards...

Uh no, it's because GPU-Z db needs an update. R9 M375 is a Cape Verde chip w/DDR3.

Cloud I think you've been royally trolled...

 

Thanks for another great post Cloud, I never really ignored the possibility of 20nm GPUs, but with Carrizo APUs being built on 28nm I seriously doubt that's the case. Maybe the M300 series and the desktop ones based on the same GPUs. Doubt they would bother shrinking Hawaii, but who knows about Fiji, maybe that's how they managed to make it ~ 550mm^2 chip.

 

Agreed. The only thing Zotac uses AMD for is some of their ZBOX systems that have APUs

 

But apparantly there will be R9 395X2 coming. Dual Fiji.
I said that was BS earlier due to the power required and the die size, but if its 20nm instead of 28nm it changes stuff.

Its weird that GPU-Z reads 1024 shaders and not 640. Usually they are like this if not supported yet

 

Even rebranding isnt that bad if its 20nm. Tonga R9 M285X will get a TDP thats acceptable on 20nm

 

Thought we already put the 20nm rumor to bed?

http://www.techspot.com/news/60458-amd-reportedly-skip-20nm-entirely-2016-gpu-family.html

 

To bed? That is wccftech not knowing what they are talking about.
14nm is for LPE and LPP only.
Low Power for 1-5W SOC`s and wireless and modems and stuff.

They need a different process for APUs, CPUs and GPUs.
Nvidia will use 14nm but only for Tegra

 

Then why does it say "currently the node is being used for CPU, SoC and NAND production, but it's expected to suit GPUs just as well."

I don't see WCCFTech anywhere in that article.

 

Because the original source is wccftech.
They think if Nvidia manufacture it there, AMD will too.

Which is so wrong. Go look up 14nm finfets and read for yourself. Right now they are doing LPE and will do LPP later.
The keyword is "LP". Thats your clue. Go read

 

WCCFTech is never the source. They only repost stuff from others. The original source is this: http://www.expreview.com/40121.html

 

Actually it is this, but who cares.

Its still wrong

 

Tom's Hardware proved that 290X uses 250W on average, and 390X is supposed to use less power than that, so dual Fiji isn't all that surprising.

 

Oh christ not this 20nm rumor again.

Whatever man, don't really care enough at this point as long as this mythical 390X shows up in the next 3 months.

 

Have to agree.. I've seen squat for the last few months.. AMD's building up a lot of hype over this 390X but not a squak or anything about it yet... Do they plan on releasing it when Pascal comes out at this slow rate?

 

Computex is coming... If AMD doesn't show anything there, they are really going to be in trouble this year.

 

Can we please, plz plz plz plz plz plz plz plz please put the 20nm rumor to rest now?

It is official: AMD skips 20nm and jumps to 14nm

 

They're taking that info from expreview as well though.