First Mobility Radeon HD 2600 XT Benchmarks?

I'm sure many of you have read this already, but laptopmag got their hands on a preproduction model of the new HP Pavillion HDX today.

http://laptopmag.com/Review/HP-Pavilion-HDX-Entertainment-Notebook-PC.htm

What's interesting is that it comes equipped with a Mobility Radeon HD 2600 XT, essentialy ATI/AMD's answer to nVidia's 8600M series. The benchmarks for 3dmark06 are very impressive, as it scored 4,002, handily beating the 8600M GS's score of 2459. Sure, the HDX comes with a T7700 and 4 Gigs of ram, but the synthetic tests are still very promising. Maybe a good mid-range chip is what ATI/AMD needs to seriously get back in the laptop graphics game.

 

Wow!!!!! This score beats that of go7900gs!!!!! I can't wait for 14" laptops with the power of a go7900gs.

 

I hope you realize that the Pavillion HDX is a 20 inch laptop...

 

8600M GT in 14.1"/15.4" Zeptos http://uk.zepto.com/Shop/Notebook.aspx?notebookid=636 scores about 4100 points 3Dmark06 at 1024x768, so it is pretty much on par on this test.

 

I read somewhere else that the 8600m only scored about 3100 points.

 

It was 1440x900 in Vista with immature drivers: http://www.zeptoforum.com/QuickRev/index.htm#QuickReview_-_ZNOTE_6224W

 

Those scores are pushing the stock scores for my 1500M. All that power in a much smaller package...

 

the new business hp lineup has the hd 2600 also. but im not sure if it was the XT version.

Got to remember a chip is a chip it doesn't matter what size notebook its in it will perform the same otherwise.

 

Unfortunately sometimes it does. Clock speeds change from vendor to vendor as a cheap way of dealing with insufficient cooling. An obvious example would be the X1600 in Core Duo MacBook Pros compared to their C2D successor.

Always got to check the fine print (clock speeds)

 

Go8600 GS (WXGA+) - ~2200
Go8600 GT (WXGA+) - ~3400 (what we got from Zepto)
HD2600 XT (WSXGA+) - ~4000 (from the mega HDX)

What we must calculate in as well is the ATI ran 3dmark under WSXGA and maybe with overclocked clock coz of the huge size.. which in terms the zepto ran in WXGA and in Vista.. In XP it would get a 3600.. check it out urself

And another thing.. ZeptoUK said tat the 6224 and 6225 have the 8600GS instead of the 8600GT BUT on the official site of Zepto, it states that it is a GT... a huge confusion over it.....

Edit: Clawed the 8600GS from nvidia forum http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=35144

 

I think we will see when real benchmarks come out the HD2600 and 8600M-GT will be the exact same. I bet that 4000 was benched at 1024x768 like the Zepto which also got 4000 at that resolution.

Then we can start more threads all over again: 8600M-GT vs HD2600 XT !!!

 

Synthetic benchmarks are beautiful. They allow us to speculate, assume, and even make predictions on something that we have no hard evidence on. Don't you love these type of threads?

1 - Immature drivers for both the 8600M, and HD 2600, are both inconclusive.
2 - Resolutions ran are most likely the same, but who knows?
3 - 3DMark... hmmm
4 - No software to see how they run DX10 games, wonderful

I say wait and see when there is hard evidence. For now it's just a waste of server space.

=)

Yes, I love being the antagonist
-Josh

 

It was benched at 1680x... something... But we cant say the HD2600XT is better since the HDX was so huge.. a normal XT clock like the ones on desktop are achievable.. but for the zepto, it couldnt handle more heat than the HDX so the 8600 must be tuned down..

 

Please quote that part from the article, I'm getting fed up with these quesses...

 

Weird.. i rechecked the website, that part was taken off, it was there, i swear..
Maybe they realized their mistake and took it off....

 

I'm pretty sure it was benched at 1680x1050, the native WSXGA resolution.

 

Immature Vista drivers always make me wait, maybe will buy a new laptop by 2008 with Vista SP2?

 

7900gs go can be easily overclocked to reach a 4500 3dmark06 score because it's horribly underclocked by Nvidia. If you want to you can really crank it surpass the 5000 mark.

 

Yeah, but who playes with overclock? The 3dmark scores aren´t really all that! It´s how it workes irl, ig(in game) that matters.

 

Keeperian it really counts,.. 3dmark shows you how powerfull is gpu.. so if gpu has big mark, than it will give you the idea what games can you run at normal fps.

 

Yeah, sure 3dmark scores count´s to a surtain point.
But my point was just that when it comes to notebooks you can´t really overclock that much cause of the heat and so on.
So when someone says that a card get´s this and that score overcklocked, it´s just something u can´t take advantage of in longtime gameplay!
So i only care for stock scores that a card and machine can handle without risk of damage any hardware.

 

Agree with Keeperian, overclocking should be done only on well cooled desktop. For notebook, it aint wise to shorten the life span of ur notebook by overclocking. The 1st part that "died" in my desktop is my gpu coz i overclock too much. I wouldnt risk to spoil my notebook.

 

For the go7900gs only the gpu have to be replaced. As for ocing, I always run my notebook oced, no error at all and heat is about the same.

 

3Dmark06 Defaults to 1280 x 1024. The resolution of your display does not matter. In the case of an lcd, the image will just be scaled not rendered at the native resolution. skynetwork scored 3860 points by setting the resolution (1024x768) lower then default. I assume laptopmag benchmarked the HD 2600 xt at 3dmark06's default resolution as they didn't mention otherwise. If this is the case then the 2600 xt could be quite a bit faster than the 8600 gt

 

Today benches of the HD 2900XT were presented. The card is not as fast as the 8800GTX. But it seems that ATI rules in the mobile sector. Interesting... I really want to see a comparison by Anandtech, I love their reviews.

 

Unfortunately, the HD 2900XT is not comparable to the 8800GTX, it's supposed to compete with the 8800GTS, as they are both around $400 cards. The 8800GTX's competition will be the HD 2900XTX, which has had issues and is not yet released. It's also good to note that preliminary benchmarks show the HD 2900XT putting a pretty good whooping to the 8800GTS. Both may change with new drivers though, but for now, ATI is winning the mid-high range. Have to wait and see how the HD2900XTX pans out.

-Josh

 

x2900xt was a flop imho , the only thing it has going for it is the price. It doesnt beat the 8800GTS in all applications and is pretty close in the ones it does. Also the IQ leap isn't as good as previous ati generation leaps. Filtering looked pretty bad and the lighting wasn't as good as the 8800. And it only won the AA because it supports 24x =/

 

any guesses on the heat output of the HD 2600 XT? Would love that thing in a 14.1-15.4in

 

I don't think they are releasing 2900 XTX

 

The desktop HD 2900XT was a disappointment to say the least ... the 8800GTS in many cases is more powerful, and even the high-end 8800GTS' are $100 cheaper than the HD 2900XT. Nvidia also has better driver support because the 8800GTS has been around for so long (6 months now).

 

Possible review?

http://www.chilehardware.com/Articu...ATI-Mobility-Radeon-HD-2600-200705141810.html

no clue how he got this.

 

my benchmark was made without optimized drivers and with sample bios on an sample book

the ram was even limited to half the datarate and about half the speed (only 400mhz instead of 700mhz).

i personally expect the 8600M GT to be around 4200-4400 with regular ram clocks and a final vga bios revision.
ofc i think that at least the drivers used for benching the 2600xt were not optimized as well.

anyway both the cards should again be in the same area. but i personally prefer nvidia

 

I also think more notebooks will be available with the 8600M GT, which is another reason to prefer Nvidia. Asus' C90, Compal's IFL90, and some of Zepto's options all offer the 8600M GT.

 

Does anyone know how important perlin noise test is? ATI seems to be better at it, and it translate to?

 

How many different mobil version of the HD 2600 are there going to be? anybody know? is the HD 2600XT the top card and comparable to the 8600GT?

 

ATI's website only lists the HD 2600 and the HD 2600XT. I haven't heard of any others.

 

Yes. Based on early benchmarks it seems like the HD 2600XT is where the 8600M GT with GDDR3 is.

 

Where? I havent really saw any official benchmark of the ATI.. the only ones that i saw is the HP HDX which scores about 4000 at SXGA in 3dmark06, but suck at most other benchmark. Maybe is the driver again... looks like ATI gonna have a busy month..

 

I've seen benchmark readings of the HD 2600XT around 4,000.

 

Have any 14.1 - 15.4" laptops been confirmed to use the 2600 XT yet?