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    First Radeon HD 6800 series benchmark score leak

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by raclimja, Aug 28, 2010.

  1. raclimja

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    SemiAccurate :: First Radeon HD 6800 series benchmark score leak

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    SemiAccurate :: First Radeon HD 6800 series benchmark score leak
     
  2. Amnesiac

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    Wow, this early? This can't be true.

    If it is, I can't wait to see ATI get their handed to them by NVIDIA's competition.
     
  3. fzhfzh

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    "SemiAccurate" tells us everything there is to know... they should really change their name to NeverAccurate, since if you are semi-accurate, you are not really accurate.
     
  4. ichime

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    Well, nVidia doesn't even have a full GTX 400 fermi lineup yet. At this rate, ATi's 6000 lineup could be finished right after nVidia finishes their GTX 400 lineup, putting them head to head.
     
  5. Kevin

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    We should probably look for the 6770 benchmarks, to see what's in store for the high-end of the Mobility line.
     
  6. key001

    key001 Notebook Evangelist

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    semi-accurate means that in 10 shots, 5 hit the target and 5 miss it


    how many points do 5870m and 5870 get in that bench?
     
  7. masterchef341

    masterchef341 The guy from The Notebook

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    That's not really what accurate means at all.

    Something could be perfectly accurate and miss all 10 shots.
     
  8. Snowm0bile

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    Precision is what counts.
     
  9. sean473

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    its semi-accurate but should be called nver accurate.
     
  10. edgaralanpwn

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    How did a tech thread become a discussion of semantics? =X
     
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    Aikimox Weihenstephaner!

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    The important thing is that 6000 is coming in just a few months and will have a better performance ;)
     
  12. granyte

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    o_O that single card kick my cfx setup in hell alone
     
  13. Amnesiac

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    Well, considering that Crossfire doesn't scale well, and the benchmark there is of a desktop card, along with an assumed i7, it's perfectly acceptable.
     
  14. raclimja

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  15. nobodyshero

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    Never was there a more appropriate time for the forum text face palm. Seriously though what was the ETA for mobile 6k series? I don't recall.
     
  16. Abula

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    Probably not this year, if everything goes as planed, we might see some desktop cards before years end like last years 58XX, and mobile versions early next maybe around February, then again this is all speculation on my part, but im hoping to see Intels Sandy bridge and ATI 6870 kinda match for a worthwhile upgrade :D .
     
  17. nobodyshero

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    I think we're on the same page there :cool: I dropped out of buying the M17x when I read about SB. Frankly SB + even a single card will be something I'll finally be willing to settle on and never look back for a year or two. Since consoles are slowing down the need for major GPU advancements I don't foresee an ATI 6k being maxxed for quite some time, and I don't foresee sandybridge being maxed anytime soon either.
     
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    They are just reposting numbers that have been out there for a few days.
     
  19. Aikimox

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    I hope 6k will be here before SB though :)
     
  20. ichime

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    More leaks with Crysis and Unigine Heaven benchmarks:

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    So what seems to be the 6870 would be 25%+ faster than the GTX 480 on the desktop type of things.

    Very interested to see what BlackComb XT brings to the table...
     
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    Pretty beastly for an optimized part. If this performance increase rings true, then I can't wait to get my hands on one of these to go with a Bulldozer CPU.
     
  22. WaR

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    Nice. I'm waiting for the desktop 6800 series to temporarily drop out of the gaming laptop line and get back into the towers (I have none). This M17x will probably be my last high performance laptop for a while.

    Bechmarks look promising.
     
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    Yeah, I skipped the 5000 series and 400 series GPUs on my desktop this time around. Still rocking my original eVGA GTX 280 (Lifetime warranty version) in my desktop. Might go with the 6000 series.
     
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    You may be able to hope for possibly December 2010 release. I know the mobiles were supposed to be around end of December beginning of January. The release in February was due to massive amount of delays.
     
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    ^^ Yes. Plus, with every year the gap between the mobile and desktop GPU's is diminishing. I'm hoping for Nov-Dec 2010.
     
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    lolamd.

    10char.
     
  27. Kuu

    Kuu That Quiet Person

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    Now now, you're going to set everything on fire with comments like that~

    Wonder how much the things will cost.
     
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    I'm guessing that they'll be about the same price as the 5000 series was at launch. They'll most likely release, and have great sales, and then good ol' NVIDIA will come along with another super solution and hand ATI's (or AMD's :rolleyes:) to them.

    Take a look at the current desktop market - everybody was in doubt about Fermi, but the GTX 460 and upwards are absolutely killing the competition. Anything above a 5770 on ATI's side is simply not worth it, for the price it is, and for the fact that NVIDIA has a better performing card for a cheaper price.
     
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    From what I read when Fermi was first released it wasn't the same story; the 480 being the hottest thing ever and not worth the price increase for the performance, I sort of figured nvidia would figure out what to do with the midrange cards and then come back and start owning everyone in the end. Problem that might arise now is the next 10 years of "Refinement" or rebranding, but if it scaled well enough, maybe people won't complain as much.

    I'd never be able to get myself to buy one of those super-high-end cards though... then again, I said I'd never get a netbook, yet I just got a HP Mini 210... :rolleyes:
     
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    Actually, only the GTX460 is the good fermi
     
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    Agreed. I'm still waiting for the day when notebook GPU's stop getting desktop model numbers unless they actually are using the same architecture and configuration even if the clock speeds are lower. The 4870 mobility and 5870 mobility are the same fn thing basically minus DX11 support on the 5870 and slightly higher clocks but instead of the 5870 having twice the shader it has the same 800 the 4870 mobility has making it a fn 5770 mobility with GDDR5 so it should be called a 5790 and not a 5870.

    Anyways, that rant aside. Maybe the 6800 mobility will actually be using 5870 architecture and configuration? If so that would destroy the GTX480M's sad little GTX465 roots.
     
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    not for long that is.. 6000 series should demolish ferni.. but u have to agree.. ur comparing August 2010 NVIDIA tech October 2009 ATI tech.. not a fair comparison especially since it took NVIDIA 1 year to catch up with ATI whe being slightly better than ATI and ATI releasing new cards soon.
     
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    What a load of crap. Take a look at the desktop forums around the place, and you'll see the GTX 470 being recommended over ATI's flagship single GPU card, as it offers similar performance at a cheaper price. The GTX 470 can be had for about $260 right now, if you do your research.

    The GTX 480 is being recommended for enthusiasts over the 5970 (a dual GPU card), due to the 5970's driver issues and micro-stutter issues.

    I do agree with you on the GTX 465 though. That was the proverbial "ugly duckling" of the series.

    As for heat, it's a non issue. ATI's 4850 and 4870 used to be hotter than the GTX 480. With a decent case, and decent GPU cooler, it runs damn well below some of ATI's past cards.

    A lot of the reason Fermi is now being adopted is because the drivers have tremendously improved since launch. Like, a 40% performance increase. And I doubt that NVIDIA have already squeezed everything out of them yet. Don't even get me started on ATI's drivers.
     
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    To be honest, I haven never seen any recommendation for Fermi GPUs except the 460. It is all connected to the fact that after the 460, performance increase is not directly proportional to the price you pay.

    the GPUs are priced right now around their performance level. So yeah, a GT470 is still potent, but you can always sacrifice a bit of performance and save enough money by getting a cheaper GPU like the 460 or even the HD5850 and have decent performance.

    And the bashing of Fermi is not on the temp. That means nothing. You could find a P4 that runs hotter than anything in this world, and that wouldn't mean much. The bashing comes from the power drawn by the heavy hitters 470 and 480. Specially when Sli'd because they tend to consume much more than they should.

    So in terms of pure performance and price, the 460 is the real winner. It's similar as how you find, more often than not, people recommending GPUs like the HD5770 because it is cheap and offers excellent performance. I have also never seen the HD5870 being recommended per se.

    As for drivers, I think the radeons are fine in single setups, but things get ugly with some CF and when using eyefinity.
     
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    You should be looking harder then. I see the GTX 470 recommended over the 5870 all the time. The GTX 480 is being recommended for absolute enthusiasts who want the BEST single GPU card, and who don't want the problems of SLI and Crossfire.

    Considering that the average power supply for a half decent rig these days is about 850 Watts or better, it doesn't really matter. Complaints that power draw is too high is baseless, and people who complain about it are living in 2003.

    It's all well and good to be a supporter of AMD, but for people to blindly deny the obvious superiority of Fermi is just stupid, and completely dumb.
     
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    I don't even think the release is necessary. 5870m plays all games fine as of now. Should be interesting to see the performance. I'm guessing 10% performance gain overall than the 5870m.
     
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    If all companies adopted that mentality, then we wouldn't have cards capable of producing these graphics. Development is needed.
     
  38. spaghetticheese

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    i just did a benchmark on vantage with my 5870, i was unable to use extreme settings because my monitor doesnt support 1920x1200, so i used custom settings and changed everything to extreme and set resolution at 1920x1080.
    my GPU score ended up at 11276.... i dont see much difference in the framerates from mine to that one. (on screen keyboard is because my print screen button is broken :p)
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    With sales of HD5xxx vs FERMI, consumers have now boldly screamed at Nvidia, pure performance with no regard is not acceptable. Power, heat and cost are as much of a factor as pure performance. Even the GF104 can't compete with November 2009's HD5xxx in those terms.

    Hopefully that's what these benchmarks will do, cause Nvidia to rethink their design and come back with something more affordable and more powerful at the same time without hurting our electric bills. Considering many PC Gamers are financially independent in college or just graduated, that matters a lot!
     
  40. spaghetticheese

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    but i got a similar GPU score in what i hope is similar settings :S

    explain?
     
  41. spaghetticheese

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    anyone

    anyone at all
     
  42. thinkpad knows best

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    This is moving way too fast for my liking..
     
  43. granyte

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    yay my 1 year old 4850 cfx is now 2 generation behind and losing in score agains a single card setup -.-
     
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    It's a little exciting too isn't it? AMD and nVidia look to be escalating the graphics race again. There was that little dark period where it was nVidia just rebadging. Now it's back to both (hopefully) releasing cards with more significant improvements. It would have been more significant for AMD if not for that TSMC foiling them! :eek:
     
  45. KipCoo

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    Desktop 5870?
     
  46. spaghetticheese

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    and this is desktop 6000 series no? i see no M or Mobility. wouldnt have thought the mobility version would be leaked before the desktop version
     
  47. Kevin

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    At least your CFX setup is still faster than any single mobile GPU.
     
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    true lol but a poor consolation and for how long


    and it looks like i'll jump into the 78xx mobility wagon unless i hear a dx12 is comming (or window 8) since they will likely comes together
     
  49. spaghetticheese

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    but my gpu got almost same scorrrrrrrrrreeeeeeeeeeee

    are there any other extreme settings vantage benchmarks we can compare it with?